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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: funkedup on June 02, 2003, 04:39:33 PM
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http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20979
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Shhh! At least those guys appreciate a full detail! ;) Alittle off topic, but guess what business I'm thinking of starting my own business in.....
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damned red X
http://www.chez.com/jacky/images/cars/bmw-3/view.html
:D
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OWWWW! That hurt my eyes Straffo!
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So if I drive up there will you detail it for me? :)
In California we don't detail our own cars. The Good Lord saw fit to bless us with these wonderful people we call "Mexicans". :D
They work hard, don't ask for much money, and they love shiny cars.
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Originally posted by funkedup
So if I drive up there will you detail it for me? :)
I added alittle subliminal message for you on the second to last post. :D
I'll offer you the same deal I offer everyone else...I'll put the product on, you take it off. In other words, I polish and wax it, you remove the stuff. I don't fish for people, I teach people to fish. :) We can do your car together in about 3 hours easy(Since its white, white "tells no tales")
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BTW what are your recommendations for products to use for detailing under the hood?
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Funked, since I'm relatively new into the "OCD" of detailing (I was just a wash and wax guy before), I' haven't had an engine bay in need of more than general maintenance that I do for my car. Griots Vinyl and rubber cleaner is what I use to maintain it. However, for a job alittle tougher, this is note from a friend who has also used Griots products (http://www.griotsgarage.com)
Bought the Griot's Garage Engine cleaner kit about a month ago, this package came with Griot's Engine cleaner (35oz + Fine sprayer), Engine Gloss (spray can), and 4 detail brushes (brass, aluminum, nylon, and horse hair in tooth brush size).
Unfortunately I have been extra lazy recently and have not been taking pictures of the process, or perhaps it's because I dropped my last camera and broke the optics and I've been extremely [Oops!] about taking pictures with it...But I did not take the before picture as well as the process. However, I've taken a few after pictures here, bear with me eh?
First of all, the application of the cleaner was fairly easy. The only thing to keep in mind is that you should mask off whatever you don't want to get wet. I masked off the brake fluid reservoir (brake fluid is VERY sensitive to moisture) and the ABS controllers, as well as the diagnostic port, positive battery terminal and the ECIS cold air intake. I just used plastic saran wraps, wet the rubber edges/seals with some good o' fashion spit, and wrapped the electronics with it. Then, while engine is still warm from my little spirited drive earlier, I sprayed on the engine cleaner and agitated the plastic rubber part with the nylon brush and the metal/aluminum part with the brass brush. Used a little extra elbow grease around the shock/strut towers because a lot of dirt and oil has settled there. I think my engine was still too hot, since SOME of the engine cleaner started to evaporate around the engine block. I let the engine cleaner sit for about 5 minutes and rinse off with light, gentle flow of water. Afterwards I did a quick wipe down with a 100% terry cotton (probably should've gotten Griot's disposable wipedown towels) and let the car dry under the sun for about half an hour with the hood up. Good thing I live in Sunny So. Cal.
After a quick inspection to ensure most engine components are dried, I removed the saran wrap except for the one covering the ECIS intake, did another, more thourough wipedown with a cotten terry, and sprayed the Engine Gloss on. I tried to be careful around the edges of the engine, trying not to get any of this stuff on the clearcoated surfaces...But the spray is very fine and will get blown around by any turbulence in the air. It's best to cover the fenders and front bumper when you use this. I washed the car afterwards right away and did not notice any oversprays. Went over the engine once, noticed the spray was forming some very odd patterns on the plastics and not drying uniformly. So I panicked and started going wild with the engine gloss, trying to get an even spray and a more even result...Well, it turned out that wasn't necessary, the gloss dries evenly and will produce a matte but very nice satiny finish. Overall I am very happy with Griot's engine cleaner product, it was very easy to apply and clean off, produced a very clean engine and the engine gloss made the engine look BRAND NEW. It's hard to imagine this car is almost 2 years old now. Next up? Griot's undercarriage spray. It's time to clean up the wheel wells and underneath the car.
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What is that thing on the front of your car? Remove it. Immediately.
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Gotta agree with Dowding on this one - immediately!
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Is it some elaborate device to stop thieves from nicking your engine?
Nice place you got there Ripsnort. Are those tiles on the walls?
Kind of spoilt by the noodle extension lying across your drive, though. ;)
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Geezus Dowding don't use up all your ammo in one burst. Let him reply, then zap him again! :D
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Believe me, I probably hate that bra more than you do...but its a necessity with the highway and 18-wheelers that I pass on a daily basis (Rock chips) It comes off when I Concours the car, needless to say. :)
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yer gonna rub off yer clear coat before ya know it! :D
lookin sweet.
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Well you can cover it up and it will keep the paint nice. But what good is nice paint if you can't see it?
BUT
If they salt the roads or you live right on the ocean, it's a no brainer. If you don't prevent chips, they will rust, and they will ruin your car.
Where I live we just don't have rust on cars, so it's a non-issue. I get chips on my cars, and I ignore the small ones and touch up the big ones. But in a lot of places it makes sense to protect the nose.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Are those tiles on the walls?
Yes he's done the whole place inside and out in porcelain. He's got a drain in the floor in every room, so come spring cleaning time he just activates the wash down system and then opens all the windows to let it dry.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Well you can cover it up and it will keep the paint nice. But what good is nice paint if you can't see it?
BUT
If they salt the roads or you live right on the ocean, it's a no brainer. If you don't prevent chips, they will rust, and they will ruin your car.
Where I live we just don't have rust on cars, so it's a non-issue. I get chips on my cars, and I ignore the small ones and touch up the big ones. But in a lot of places it makes sense to protect the nose.
Rust no problem here, the first 3 months I had a hard time keeping up with the rock chips and touch up paint (which also involvles blending it in with 2000 grit sandpaper, and re-polishing) so, the bra cured the chip problem. Rock chips on black finishes stand out like a white boy at a Rap concert.
Worst part about Jet Black is it tells you ALL the abuse the finish has had...hardest color to keep clean and blemish free....the best part is...awesome shine when they're detailed correctly.
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Yeah good point, chips do look bad with the darker colors. It really looked terrible on my blue Civic. Part of the reason I went for white on the new car. You can really abuse it and it still looks good. :)
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I'll say he's busted... Originally posted by Ripppppy
"A friends BMW '92 525i with 190,000 miles on it (I drove it, thought it had roughly 30k on it, boy was I surprised) convinced me which car would give me the next 10 years of service. I';ve owned Muscle cars, Fords, Chevys, Mercury's, Audi's, Volkswagons...nothing beats the BMW in 27 years of driving.
Of course I'll NEVER give up my truck, since the Gun rack won't fit in the Bimmer rear window "
(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Ripsnort60/Detail3.jpg)
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"Not Porcelain! No!"
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Sweet jeeesus Rip you really do have carpet in your garage, and all this time I thought they were just teasing you... :D
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Believe me, I probably hate that bra more than you do...but its a necessity with the highway and 18-wheelers that I pass on a daily basis (Rock chips) It comes off when I Concours the car, needless to say.
plus it keeps the headlights from sagging as your car ages.
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LMAO Dowding!
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Heh there is a pic of rip's garage somewhere deep down in one of these threads....
a little too clean of ya ask me..
SKurj
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I guess we will never know if that is "a friends 525i with 190,000 miles" or Rips garage queen.
:confused:
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Sweet jeeesus Rip you really do have carpet in your garage, and all this time I thought they were just teasing you... :D
Yes, the rumors are true... but the carpeting adds a duel purpose to the garage, wife hosts her "Stamping Up" parties (That provide about another $400/month income, not bad for a "hobby") and the kids have a romper room in the winter months when its wicked weather outside.
(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Ripsnort60/Garage.jpg)
Midnight, I think you may be confused, my purchase was the result of driving a 525i.(Shrugs)
Funked, hope you had fun today at my expense.
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Yes I had fun, thanks. :)
Feel free to take the piss out of me in the Pirelli thread. :)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
wife hosts her "Stamping Up" parties (That provide about another $400/month income, not bad for a "hobby")
What the hell is a "stamping up party"? And why is she getting paid for it?
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Heh Rip, I'm a closet car neat freak :) I'm a budget kind of guy though, I use the Meguiar's 3 step stuff. Works great. Have to use the Carnauba about every 2 weeks around here with the intense sun. I use Meguiar's Quik Detailing spray on the paint around the sills and under the hood and Simple Green for all the rubber and plastic bits. That Mother's Back to Black is one of the best products ever. I can't bring myself to use any power buffers though, I do everything by hand. I'm getting ready to clay the car this weekend, got a bunch of white overspray looking stuff all over it. My old projects have left a fine coat of ground in oil on my garage floor, so it has a protective barrier :)
As far as stone chips...just don't tailgate and you won't have to worry about it ;)
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Tailgating isn't the problem, its a two lane road with 18 wheelers blast by the opposite direciton at 65 mph, throwing stones at me.
Meguires is one of the best Brick and Mortar products available in a Carnauba from what I've tested. For online, carauba wax and a "step up in quality, Griots is the best overall for polishes, cleaners, claybar and waxes. "Zaino" would rank the highest in Polymer waxes, but its a painfully long process, with Klasse running a close second in quality.
Once you go power tools for finish, you'll wonder why you ever did it by hand, but then, I guess you need to be 40 something with aching joints....The best thing about power toys is...you can actually remove the swirl marks rather than just cover them up by hand. Sure, it removes a microthin layer of clear coat, maybe 2 mils in a worst case situation, but with todays clear coats at 35-45 mil thickness, who cares? The solution to the swirl marks is permanent.
Since you got a dark color, you may as well begin hand washing properly, linear direction to the finish and double bucket wash method. It helps keep the swirls to a minimum.
Since you *do* live in weather not compatible with Carnauba waxes, I'd highly suggest going Polymer, like Zaino(online) or Klasse(Brick and mortar stores) It will last a good 6 months in extreme conditions, where mortal natural waxes wither in 6-8 weeks. If the car is garaged, I'd go carnauba, if the car sits out in the weather, Polymer.
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My wife wants us to get a new puppy- this time she wants a Rotweiller. If we get one I'll name him Ripsnort. :p
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I stamped her up real good the other night. Money well spent!
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Who cares about that stupid car, that looks like a really nice house.
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Rip's got a ghey shiney bimmer (matching head?) well at least its not a convertible
Rip's garage is really REALLY clean
Rip's wife does something called 'stamping' in the garage
I've heard about people like you living the 'urbs
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lol Funked
We call them perverts over here, Vulcan. And we burn them at the stake.
Nice garage Rip.