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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: najdorf on June 04, 2003, 08:28:23 AM
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I just love it when I'm out over the water engaged in a furball and get zapped by some Dweeb toolin around in a damn PT boat lookin for some cheap kills and ruining the fights. Allies are already hugging their field and ship ack, I guess having someone out half way between the fleet and our base allows them to ack run from anywhere on the map.
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Ask Muut how he feels bout 5"ers ;)
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mmm, I haven't PTed in awhile. thanks for giving me the idea! :)
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Originally posted by najdorf
I just love it when I'm out over the water engaged in a furball and get zapped by some Dweeb toolin around in a damn PT boat lookin for some cheap kills and ruining the fights. Allies are already hugging their field and ship ack, I guess having someone out half way between the fleet and our base allows them to ack run from anywhere on the map.
*chuckle* Naj, buddy ... it's not just an "Allied" thing. Trust me ... I'd attach the screenshot if I could. ;)
I know you know better. There's not a single ... righteous complaint ... either side can make. There's just complaints.
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I'm not saying none of the IJ players do dweebish stuff, but it certainly seems to me the allies in the PTO sets spend an inordinate amount of time Ack runnin. Guys uppin PT in the middle of a furball just gives the allies another shot at their favorite pass time.
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My first 262 sortie in the main (a few days after they came out) I was rtb on the mindinao map and as I put my gear down an nme pt spawned 2k away and nailed me with 40mm. It was a helluva shot.
PTs are fun as hell. Especailly if your buddy kepts draggin suckers for ya. I dont think its "dweeby" like constantly running. I know have dragged many for Brady over the years. Hes a sniper in the ostie as well. I think he may off gotten 16 kills or so when a squaddies and I dragged the pigeons for him. I am terrible shot and end up dead quick when Im in one.
I wish HT would add smoke. The smoke genrators are there but I can imagine the fps hit when lots of pts spawn and smoke.
Ya just gotta watch. The jap planes can take many hits.
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Is anyone else as sick of the CT and all its bull**** as I am?
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Ya that 40mm Rocks on the PT, but 12 I think is the best I have ever goten in one sortie with it.
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Originally posted by brady
Ya that 40mm Rocks on the PT, but 12 I think is the best I have ever goten in one sortie with it.
Yep. I like PT boats; they're a fun change of pace. It's called combined arms, folks. Ever heard of a flak-trap? I usually don't last that long in them, but they're a fun distraction. One rocket hit and they're (literally) toast. I agree with the smoke generator request. That would be a nice touch.
Sabre
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Originally posted by Slash27
Is anyone else as sick of the CT and all its bull**** as I am?
Roger that.
This setup has been one of the worst ever for gameplay imho ... which might have something to do with the level of acrimony. But there seems to be a general downward trend to the arena in a lot of respects.
Too bad, too. We're seeing some of the best maps ever.
Perhaps if HT would throw us a bone? Something in the way of a minor update ... like a new plane or two ... while we wait for AH2? Not going to happen, I know ... but I wonder if the staleness has something to do with things.
Splash1
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Kinda funny to hear your opinion (slash, and dennis). I was just thinking that I've had some of the most fun ever in the CT with this setup. Fighting N1k/Ki61/A6m5's in my Hellcat in and around the CV's and shore facilities has been some of the best times I've had in AH in a long time. A couple nights ago there was like a 30 vs. 30 furball that was just awesome to watch or be in.
On another note I did spend some time on the IJN side of things and in general enjoyed myself a great deal as well. I did see some of the more obnoxious behavior, but in general it has been pretty decent fights for me.
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Splash1 (Dennis) had a bad week, I think. Probably all my fault. Maybe next time it rolls around it'll be better. Slash is good folk, could be burnout. *ShruG* I enjoyed it too. Let my hair down and got all silly like. But then I think any CT Pac setups with a Hog in it is good. No matter how far I gotta fly the thing. But having a moving base helped. Finding a safe place to park it that isn't too far from the playground is a theory I'm thinkin' of promoting. ;)
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If someone would light a fire under HTC and get us the KI-84 FRANKenstein the Pacific would soon become a whole new theater than the one we have now.
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could be burnout.
I think your right Arlo. I dont mind this set up really, Im just not having fun with AH right now. Which I find odd because I love this game and have fun flying with you people ( well, most of you:D ) I may take some time off and work on my music, well some time off anyway:D I am going to fly Andi's set up first though. I think he's made a neat set up for what we have to work with. <> all.
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Soulyss, glad to hear you've enjoyed the setup. I suspect the lion's share of allied have. I might have had a pretty good time allied, as well .. who knows? Numbers have been too skewed on non-squad nights to find out.
I just got frustrated with the chickensh't 'run away' tactics all week. It's no fun chasing dots all over the map when they'd rather run than engage. It gets old. I gripe about it. We move on. But it's not fun. ymmv.
One evening Soulyss was gracious enough to offer to stand and fight when I squeaked on ch1 about my most recent sightseeing trip in pursuit of a timid con. But since it was 5:1 allied at that point, I respectfully declined and logged. He'd have probably waxxed me post-haste in his Hellcat, anyway... but at least it would have been a fight.
The ironic thing about all these nmys blowing advantage then running away as fast as their Pratt & Whitney will carry them is that I'm really not that good.
Arlo, I didn't have a bad week. When I actually got to engage enemy planes, I did well enough by my own standards. I've done better; I've done worse. Probably about a wash.
Your contribution was to cherrypick me as I was about to drop gear on final approach in a smoking bird -- and I called it cheap, which it was. Care to take a crack at me while I'm in a position to defend myself?
We can do the Dueling Arena thing if you like. Only stipulation is you can't run away.
Splash1
13th Sentai
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Originally posted by Dennis
Arlo, I didn't have a bad week. When I actually got to engage enemy planes, I did well enough by my own standards. I've done better; I've done worse. Probably about a wash.
Your contribution was to cherrypick me as I was about to drop gear on final approach in a smoking bird -- and I called it cheap, which it was. Care to take a crack at me while I'm in a position to defend myself?
We can do the Dueling Arena thing if you like. Only stipulation is you can't run away.
Splash1
13th Sentai
Cheap hell. It was damned near free (minus the cost of my AH account, that is). ;)
Sure, if some duels will make you feel better, I'm all for it. But don't waste my time (or yours) making stipulations. I'll just do my best to shoot you down and not let you shoot me down. It's a simple philosophy (for a simple man). :D
"No use whinin' `bout it. No complaints."
.... and man .... cheer up! ;)
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:p
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I just got frustrated with the chickensh't 'run away' tactics all week. It's no fun chasing dots all over the map when they'd rather run than engage. It gets old. I gripe about it. We move on. But it's not fun. ymmv.
Sounds familiar.....Although my experience was with just a few guys here and there. Other late war pac setups have been much worse.
Anyway this was a great setup, I found mostly good fights. Tried the F4u-1, a plane I never flew before. Only 2 sorties.
I ground looped on aturning cv then Gruen Caught my in an excellent timed lead trun in which I greatly under estimated his speed. I never got to fire a shot in it so maybe next time.
The next one isnt my cup of tea but it looks interesting. I havent had more then 30-40 min at a time this week to fly but looking forward to when it comes round again.
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I thought this was one of the better setups for the most part the planes we fairly matched had a lot of good fights,but also did a lot of chaseing around of the runners,but hey I did some runnin to.It was strange to see mainly f4u's with the positional advantage either not enguage at all or right at the merge imediatly dive away either to ack or back to where they came from.
to the map maker great map my 1 and only gripe was the manned acker's that were to afraid to fly.:D
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If someone would light a fire under HTC and get us the KI-84 FRANKenstein the Pacific would soon become a whole new theater than the one we have now.
I would bet dimes to dollars it will be there in the next release, and a LOT more.
When you are thirsty and the cool drink is behind the glass it is so hard to wait.
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Aint that the freaking truth.
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....seems to me the allies in the PTO sets spend an inordinate amount of time Ack runnin.
Are you blind or just a damn idiot?
Who in thier right mind...other than Shane...refer to "right mind"...would turn fight a George?
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It was strange to see mainly f4u's with the positional advantage either not enguage at all or right at the merge imediatly dive away either to ack or back to where they came from
Key, I had around 38 kills and 4 deaths flying the F4U. All but one death was due to HOs. GoP or something like that just snuck right up on my and plastered me.
I flew the George last night and died almost every sorty. 13 kills 6 deathsI lost multiple 4 kill sorties. I got low slow and died to B&Z.
The reason I ran while flying the F4U is due to the fact that even if I avoided the HO, I could not turn. I was loosing wing tips right and left with one pass (snap shots) pings or D800 spray and pray. Never did I ever (that I recall) kill a George on the first snap. A6M5s were ten time harder to kill than the George. Every single time I would cause a fuel leak no matter how hard I hit him. Very seldom did I finish one off, but managed to get secondary credit.
I landed many time minus wing tips, even ditched a few beside the CV. Actually once I even turned the CV to me and waited till it got to me to exit!!
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
Are you blind or just a damn idiot?
Who in thier right mind...other than Shane...refer to "right mind"...would turn fight a George?
I can say with pretty good authority that naj is neither blind nor a damn idiot.
He did express an opinion -- while not universal, at least common among axis fliers in the past two PAC setups -- that allied fliers appeared to be running to the safety of their ack a lot.
It's what it looked like from our vantage point. We squeaked and moaned some. OK, a lot. Get over it. It is kinda funny how folks try to justify it. Anyway, in the end, it's all in the name of fun, right?
And yeah, I couldn't blame anyone for not wanting to turn fight a George. Of course I didn't fly the George at all this past week. I can only attest to the gonad-deprived hog and hellcat drivers who ran screaming like little girls at the sight of my ki61 peddling feverishly uphill toward them at d3.0. ....
Splash1
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Allied flyers are rutabagas
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Originally posted by Slash27
Allied flyers are rutabagas
:o
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I figured it was easier to play along with them:D
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Originally posted by Slash27
Allied flyers are rutabagas
ROTFL Slash your killing me!!:D I have to admit though , in the new setup yesterday. I upped in an F4U4 , after one sortie of Spit14s gang raping me , and stealing my lunch money. up I ran to the fleet ack when 3 of them came at me the next hop. The thought went through my mind " yep what else ya gonna do?
By the third hop I had wised up and found the Tempest. That was a better ride to deal with the spit14s.
Although I gotta say , Shane after a few hours of telling us how bad we sucked. Came over and flew the F4U , and the first thing he did was go out and whip some spit14's prettythang in a low level dogfight.
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Anyway, in the end, it's all in the name of fun, right?
You would think that, but with all this BS that goes on in here and on the TB, I think that is where the frustrations are coming from. Well it is for me, it's starting not to become fun anymore. Seems like anymore if you don't fly the plane to it's limitations you get nothing but called a dweeb. That's the only crap that frustrates me.... So anymore I am just going to keep my mouth shut on Channel one... As for the GV thing, well war is hell... if you don't want to get killed by them... SA. I know I am going to get cracks on this.... So have fun with it.... See you in the skies.