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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 04, 2003, 09:36:14 AM
What are all the components related to spped and frame rate as far as hardware goes.

ie.   RAM  Vid card CPU speed and frontside bus.

I have a p4 1.7 ghz
              gf 4 ti4200
              768 SDRAM  (PC133)
  I haev found out that my system is limited by my ram.  What else is there in the pipeline that can cause bottle necks  Front side bus?  Hard drive speed?
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Post by: FOGOLD on June 04, 2003, 10:00:12 AM
I think you have a pretty balanced system. Ok, DDR Ram is flavour of the month, but you would probably notice very little difference having it. A good balanced system  is worth a lot. If your Ram had been only PC100 it may have been a bottleneck.
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 04, 2003, 11:02:59 AM
thnx FOGOLD,  My problem isnt with AH, its with games such as CFS3 and IL2, Frame rate makes these games unplayable most of the time and i am unable to enable all of the graphical features.
  I am due for a new puter and dont want to make the mistake at looking at just cpu speed and graphic card.
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Post by: Dingbat on June 04, 2003, 12:50:23 PM
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Originally posted by FOGOLD
I think you have a pretty balanced system. Ok, DDR Ram is flavour of the month, but you would probably notice very little difference having it. A good balanced system  is worth a lot. If your Ram had been only PC100 it may have been a bottleneck.


I disagree, you'll probably see a huge difference between SDRAM and DDR ram because of the  memory bandwith.

HDD speed is and always be a bottleneck, if you just game on this machine then do a stripe set raid config.
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Post by: Dingbat on June 04, 2003, 12:50:58 PM
Also hit http://www.anandtech.com  they've gotten some great reviews lately.
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 04, 2003, 12:57:09 PM
Da hell is a striped  set raid config?
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 04, 2003, 01:01:41 PM
I would really like to know what is involved with installing a motherboard as far as compatability is concerned,  I beleive I can do the hardware work, but I am afraid, someting will be imcompatable with something else, also how do I keep my software on my puter if I upgrade to anew MOBO.
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Post by: BenDover on June 05, 2003, 09:48:03 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Da hell is a striped  set raid config?


Its where digital goblins come and clean all the toejam off your hard drive:D
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Post by: FOGOLD on June 06, 2003, 04:03:06 AM
Jeez, that machine should still run CFS3 and Il2 no prob surely??:confused:
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Post by: FOGOLD on June 06, 2003, 04:04:04 AM
I have an Athlon XP1800 Gf3 Ti500 512DDR and Il2 FB runs sweet as a nut with high detail.
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Post by: Dingbat on June 06, 2003, 07:22:00 AM
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I have an Athlon XP1800 Gf3 Ti500 512DDR and Il2 FB runs sweet as a nut with high detail.


U have DDR, Sdram for a 1.7 is killing the machine...

He does have enough megahurtz but the mem pipe is slowing him down.
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Post by: BenDover on June 06, 2003, 07:30:30 AM
I'd need a new motherboard to get DDR :(

And a new vid card aswell, my GF4 MX for some reason only gives a small performance boost over my 2/3 PCI voodoo4 I had in before :(
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Post by: Dingbat on June 06, 2003, 07:36:19 AM
Just thought of something, did you use the frame rate slider in CFS3?
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 08, 2003, 10:16:31 AM
ya, I either have a problem with my systemm, or the pc133 RAM is bogging me down.  What about soundcartd, I have a soundmax somethign, it came with my puter.  Is a ****ty soundcard crippling to FR or does that just messs w the sound
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Post by: Dingbat on June 08, 2003, 10:22:51 AM
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
ya, I either have a problem with my systemm, or the pc133 RAM is bogging me down.  What about soundcartd, I have a soundmax somethign, it came with my puter.  Is a ****ty soundcard crippling to FR or does that just messs w the sound


A little of both,  I have an SBLive for sale 15$ if you are interested.
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Post by: theboomanchu on June 08, 2003, 11:58:43 AM
I have had issues in the past with my sound card and games.  Try to set the hardware acceleration lower in (depending on your OS, but should be close to this) "settings", "control panel", "multimedia", "Audio" tab, playback "advanced properties" button, and the "performance" tab.  You'll see two sliders, one being hardware acceleration, the other being sample rate conversion quality.  If they are both to the right, you may try moving them left and giving it a try.  I would leave the Sample rate conversion quality alone til you try the hardware acceleration, because it doesn't seem to make as much difference.  This may or may not work, as you have a diff card than I do, but it may be worth a try.  hope this helps.
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 09, 2003, 08:35:08 AM
thnx, but Ive already been down the accelarttion path.  I have it at 3/4 as recommended by skuzzy, but i tried to lower it even further.  I really couldnt tell the difference either way.  the soundcard thing kinda confuses me.  Ive heard that if you lower the slider, that it actually puts MORE strain on the puter, but I dont know.
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 09, 2003, 08:39:01 AM
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Originally posted by BenDover
I'd need a new motherboard to get DDR :(

And a new vid card aswell, my GF4 MX for some reason only gives a small performance boost over my 2/3 PCI voodoo4 I had in before :(


Ive been down the vidcard road too.  i keep getting the, nexst to best, until I finally wind up with the one that works well, only I got 3 $200 ones laying around the house.
  GF 4 440mx vs GF 4ti4200.  Get the ti4200, it is a big leap ofer the gf 4 440.  Id say avg.15-20 fps.  Clouds are easy.  In fact everything goes for the ti4200 except very busy scenes.   Exploding planes bombs dropping and 6 or 7 buffs in the picture.
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Post by: BenDover on June 09, 2003, 10:26:32 AM
The fan's not working on my 460, surprised the thing hasn't melted tbh.

Good thing is its under warrenty, hopefully I'll get my money back and be able to get that OEM Ti.
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Post by: WhiteHawk on June 09, 2003, 01:45:19 PM
ya..my ti42oo fan made a horrible racket from the git go, had to reroute the micro wires,.  The fan was hitting them.:mad:
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Post by: acetnt on June 09, 2003, 02:13:21 PM
Though not always necessary - would suggest you reinstall software if replacing motherboard - did this once and had so many problems that I just reinstalled all the software

Regards