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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: ccvi on June 04, 2003, 01:52:22 PM
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X45 users, which button do you use for your cannons?
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the one on the jstick on top and in front - small red button - set up for secondary fire
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Since I mainly dogfite, I have both primary and secondary mapped to main trigger.
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Have both assigned to trigger...... except in mode 3 (which for me is bomber mode)... this way I can shoot MG without dropping bombs.... sec fire key is also the launch key.... for bombs..
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I have primary and secondary both mapped to the trigger too, but I have also programmed the primary and secondary buttons separately so I can fire each one independent of the other. I have the primary guns set to the little red button on the front (push with index finger), which allows me to de-ack fields without using cannons. The Secondary guns or cannons are mapped to the launch button under the protective cover on the top of the stick. I took someone else’s advice and simply put a piece of sponge under the lid so that I press the cover and it depresses the button. That little red button was too small anyway. Hope that helps.
As a follow-up, what does everyone use the rotary buttons for? At one point I had them mapped for throttle engines 1 and 2 so I could do some fancy flying in P38's, but never got used to it, and now they are completely unmapped.
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Grabbing the stick in a way that the index finger presses the red one in the front might not be a bad idea, considering that the stick would be just a bit too small if I hadn't removed the pinie switch cap.
Though mapping in that way i think i'd rather put the primary guns on the small red and the cannons on trigger.
I have aux0 mapped to select engine one, aux1 to select both engines and aux2 to select engine 2. works nice, just the latest config too can't do that (can't map aux0 to report as joystick button aux0...). The mode switch I don't use at all - I can't get the profiler to set it to send joystick buttons, only keyboard strokes, which is crap ihmo, they might end up in the chat bar and I can't press more than 3 buttons at the same time.
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I have the trigger setup to fire primary only in normal operation and both when I hold the pinkie switch in. Secondary only is mapped to button A.
As for the rotary knobs, I have #2 setup to select eng #1 or #2 depending on which way I turn it. Like tracerx I envisioned doing all manner of tricky manuevers in my P-38 but in practice it was just distracting and not very intuitive. I never use it. Knob #1 however is setup as my rudder control as I found the rocker-rudder more akin to some sort of torture device. I have flaps mapped to the rocker now and the ache in my left hand mysteriously disappeared. :D
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Great Idea with the rudder Dbltrubl. I might never have thought of that. I am still having a hard time getting used to the rudder action on the throttle stick.
ccvi,
I am not holding the stick any different than normal. There are two small red buttons on the X45. One on top under the launch cap I press with my thumb and is maped to secondary guns. The other is on the front side just above where your index finger normally rests. This one I maped to Primary guns so I can fire them without using the cannons. I like to fire primary only when trying to force runners to turn, and when de-acking a field. The secondary switch is usually only used when bombing, or jabo since I usually fire cannons and primary togeather with the normal trigger.
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Right now I have both set for trigger and secondary to the "little red button":)...(perfect for jug or other US Iron). When I'm flying other stuff I'll adjust on climb out. In Spit V I'll map 20mm to trigger and the .303's to the red button. I tend to T&B everything so the two yellow buttons are flaps up and down. I've got my "up view" mapped to the pinkie switch so that free's up the 2nd hat and I'll map to there sometimes...right now have map, dive brake, damage and chk 6 mapped but I've occasionally mapped sec or primary weapon their as well.
Of course in la-7 it doesnt matter :)
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Originally posted by tracerx
ccvi,
I am not holding the stick any different than normal. There are two small red buttons on the X45. One on top under the launch cap I press with my thumb and is maped to secondary guns. The other is on the front side just above where your index finger normally rests. This one I maped to Primary guns so I can fire them without using the cannons. I like to fire primary only when trying to force runners to turn, and when de-acking a field. The secondary switch is usually only used when bombing, or jabo since I usually fire cannons and primary togeather with the normal trigger.
I thought "normal" was to put the index finger on the trigger, and the rest of the fingers around the stick. I removed the pinkie hub cap so the 5th finger can rest down there. At least that explains why my thumb is too short to reach the launch button :) That there aren't many fingers left to control the stick - thumb on the buttons at the top, index finger in the front, 3rd finger at the trigger, just two small weak fingers left for the stick.
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I have my trigger set up so that if I pull it a little, it fires primary and if I pull it all the way it fires both.
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Yeah, that sounds right ccvi, I must have been interpreting what you said earlier incorrectly. I use the "normal" grip 80-90% of the time, and slide my grip up only when I want to fire primary alone. That way I don't have too many problems holding on to the stick.
I see why you removed the pinkie switch. I also find that pinkie button annoying sometimes, but I use it for the gun zoom so it doesn't bother me much if I accidentally hit it.
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Wow, how the heck did you manage that furious?
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of the three buttons on the top (the 1 with the flip lid in the middle) i have the left button mapped as "fire secondary"
my middle button (lid has been removed) is "select secondary weapon"
the right button is "gun zoom"
that tiny red button on the front you cant see is "toggle combat trim"
somone asked about the rotaries?
i have mine set for elevator trim ad move head side to side
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both to main trigger, primary to button 2, secondary to button 3
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Originally posted by tracerx
Wow, how the heck did you manage that furious?
he used the AUX button I think.
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Ok I went out and bought X45 so far I like it I haven't programed any buttons, however I am have some troubles. I installed the basic drivers and Win XP see's all the buttons etc but in AH it only see buttons on the stick but not the secondary hat or pinkie button. Do I need to instal the advanded software for key mapping my stick so I can see those buttons on the throttle ? Or am I missing something in AH ?
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DOH ! I got it, now to decide what function to put where.:D
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The "advanced" (lol) software sucks. It can't even map joystick buttons to, duh, joystickbuttons (except the few default buttons).
Nothing like "head3 top left triggers directXbutton 27".
A joystick isn't a device to input keystrokes. But maybe that's just me...
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Originally posted by tracerx
Wow, how the heck did you manage that furious?
sorry, i cheated. it's a cougar.
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How can I change the POV to my 2nd hat...POVhat is worn out.
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Three ways:
a) EIther you use the setup tool and set the 2nd hat to report as hat, and the first one as buttons.
b) You can easily map each of the four buttons the second hat reports to the viewing functions in AH.
c) You can make the second hat report keystrokes on the num-pad :rolleyes:
(better ignore c or your viewing might end up in the chat buffer ;) )
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also, if you have the newer saitek mapping software installed you can use the "report as" function to make your other hat act like the primary one. The newer controller software works pretty well on my win2k setup, so it should work ok in xp. You can use the report as to reassign other buttons such as the pinkie -- if you dont want the pinkie to be the shift key, reassign it! Also setting the rotors as bands is very easy, i use mine for gear, hooks, and autopilot options. I even reassigned my rudder rocker to flaps since I bought rudder pedals.
later.
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I think I have to do it in AH joystick set up.
When I look at the mapping software editor it will not allow me to set the second hat as my POV...only the primary has that option, even when I set the primary to "buttons".
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trigger-primary
pinky-secondary
little red one in front of stick-fire both
button above and left of hat(think its a)-range channel
other button above and right of hat(b?)-select secondary
i dont use launch button
second hat up-auto climb
left-auto angle
right-auto level
down-toggle combat trim
throttle
big button(d?)-vox
aux switch-toggle zoom
mouse stick thingy up-look up, used with hat
down-look down
forward-increase zoom
back-decrease zoom
button next to mouse stick-wep
throttle hat up-flaps up
down-flaps down
left-toggle gear
right-toggle dive flaps
i use the rotors for aileron and elevator trim
i use the piece of crap rudder rocker for rudder trim
GET SOME CH PRO PEDALS!!!! THEY ARE WONDERFUL