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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hazed- on June 05, 2003, 03:43:50 PM
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As lately it seems the MA has been full of the same sort of aircraft be they Spits,N1K's,La7s in furballs or P51D,190d9s,109g10's etc in BNZ could I PLEASE request:
Unperking the TEMPEST,F4U-4,TA152 and SPITFIREXIV for JUST ONE tour?
Sure the arena will fill full of people trying them out over and over for a month but this is precicely what im craving!!
An MA with a completely different mix of aircraft just to tide me over until AH2 arrives.
Everyone out there: if HTC agrees would you say YES or NO to the idea?
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If the tour after that (and just that one tour) the spit9, la7, g10, D9, PonyD (list might not be complete) are perked, I agree ;)
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last time I flew the 152 I got killed in a few minutes, same when flying Spit XIV. IMO the best perked prop fighter is the Tempest.
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Originally posted by udet
last time I flew the 152 I got killed in a few minutes, same when flying Spit XIV. IMO the best perked prop fighter is the Tempest.
i'd agree and i wouldnt mind seeing more of them to fight.If we did unperk all the prop planes for a tour at the very least we would have some unusual tempest vs tempest or F4U4 vs Spit14s fights.
It would only be for a tour so its hardly time for it to get to the annoying stage.
Im still all for acheiving a similar result by perking the la7s's and p51d's and 190d9's for one tour to change the sort of engagements we are likely to have in MA but a lot of people dont want their LA7 to cost any price :) It would mean aircraft like the 205's or la5s would be seen more which can only be a good thing i think.
Still if this isnt going to happen then why not make the prop perk planes free and see if they are overused after all?.I suspect it(the MA) will be full of them for a while but eventually people would realise only the tempest, perhaps the F4u-4 too, are good enough to use in a similar manner to the La7s and spit9's.Even the Spit14's cant be used like the spit9 really.Besides its just for a TOUR :D
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Originally posted by ccvi
If the tour after that (and just that one tour) the spit9, la7, g10, D9, PonyD (list might not be complete) are perked, I agree ;)
Why would you want to perk these airplanes? It's not like they're uber or anything special.
Ack-Ack
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So you want to pay $15 for a big h2h server?;)
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Just a thought maybe not a good one......
but what about if you unperk planes for planed missions
Like if John Doe who has 300 perk points decides to plan a mission he can make a mission with 10 F4U4s and people without enough perk points can still join and fly?
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Originally posted by DVDA
Like if John Doe who has 300 perk points decides to plan a mission he can make a mission with 10 F4U4s and people without enough perk points can still join and fly?
Hey, y'know what? That's an excellent idea! It also provides a use for perk points that I'd actually consider.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Like the orginal ME-262 free day. The majority of us would log in an hour from shear boredom.
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For every sim-freak,there is only one solution to pass time till AH2 release.
Buy Il2-FB and get familiar with it.Its seems to be much closer to reality than AH.
Its hard to handle ...and so beautiful graphics!
When i get bored flying in the furballislandmap with its anttrails, i switch to ubi.com and fly Il2-FB.
So i get the training which that sim needs.
And if AH2 doesnt fullfill my expectations, i will be well prepared to switch to Il2-FB-DID.
Ecke
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yes
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Originally posted by DVDA
Just a thought maybe not a good one......
but what about if you unperk planes for planed missions
Like if John Doe who has 300 perk points decides to plan a mission he can make a mission with 10 F4U4s and people without enough perk points can still join and fly?
If it have not been changed lately, you can make a 262 mission, and people can join even if they have no perks. So, first it shall be fixed.
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Not enough late war planes in the game for you? A late war "missun" in the MA.... No thanks
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Not enough late war planes in the game for you? A late war "missun" in the MA.... No thanks
I think it'd be a hoot to go to the side with the costliest perked planes, have everyone in the squad up in 262s at my perk point expense, and then have them fly straight into a mountain.
Saves me the trouble of having to do it myself a bunch of times.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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The last time I flew a perked plane I lost my UDP (looked everywhere for it, but it wasn't to be found). I don't fly perked planes anymore, though lately I've been jonesing for some jet combat so maybe I'll take a 262 or something up one night.
There are times when I actually miss Air Warrior's Korean War arena. :(
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why would you want to perk these airplanes? It's not like they're uber or anything special.
Ack-Ack
I think he wants us to all fly early-war planes for a while. Not a bad idea, if we don't have to worry about the late war planes as much. Compared to a hurri one, for example, a spit nine IS an uberplane. I say, why not?
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ack ack... if you can't fly these late war planes to their advantage then I guess for you.... they aren't anything special. Many players can fly em to their advantage and many players just think they can.... either way....
seeing even more late war planes in the arena is a lessened area. Unless of course you use them in the manner that leviathn describes.
lazs
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Originally posted by gofaster
There are times when I actually miss Air Warrior's Korean War arena. :(
I miss the WWI arena in Air Warrior
crazy fun even in AW3 and AWMV but it was the all time best in Air Warrior on AOL
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why would you want to perk these airplanes? It's not like they're uber or anything special.
For the same reason someone else want so to unperk some now perked planes: To see different aircraft beeing used in the arena than now.
This can be archived in two ways: Either increase the performance of unperked planes, or decrease it. The cheapest unperked ones will get the most usage.
Today those on the list aren't anything special - because they're used >90% of the time.
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All the planes work just fine, its the #'s that really cause the issues. If your facing waves inbounds your going to eventually get toasted. If your on the side with the #'s any planeworks just fine. I flew a couple hops in the P40(E) and its just fine...until you get overwelmed with threats. Obviously that elite 5-10% will make a garbage scow dance and somehow bring home a hand full of scalps...but for the rest of us what you fly is less important than who (and how many) you run into.
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Originally posted by ccvi
For the same reason someone else want so to unperk some now perked planes: To see different aircraft beeing used in the arena than now.
This can be archived in two ways: Either increase the performance of unperked planes, or decrease it. The cheapest unperked ones will get the most usage.
Today those on the list aren't anything special - because they're used >90% of the time.
this is exactly what im talking about.Im bored with fighting spit9s and la7s I dont know about the rest of you and I for one would try ANYTHING to have a few different fights.
this statement has me completely dumbfounded!
'Like the orginal ME-262 free day. The majority of us would log in an hour from shear boredom.'
Im not asking for jets to be unperked for one thing and for another how is la7s,N1Ks and spit9's we are seeing ENDLESSLY now and for years any worse than a SINGLE tour of temps spit14's and f4u-4's being the most common.
I want to see some DIFFERENT fights. Im sick and tired of tnb with spits and niks and speed races with la7s.Its the same engagements OVER AND OVER and over and over .......
Now this means either perking more aircraft, something everyone seems to moan about or unperking some.
Seems to me its the same kind of people who claim perking sucks and doesnt work that argued perking the F4u-c would ruin AH. Complete nonsense, If they hadnt done it I for one was on the verge of quiting through boredom.Something which im getting again hense the request.Im not about to leave as hopefully AH2 is close but if it wasnt for that i think i'd have left AH about 2 months ago.
1 tour of the perk planes would break the endless cycle of the same old fights.I dont need some discussion on the merrits of perking or whatever , its been rehashed a thousand times, all i wanted was a yay or nay from some of you to see if you would also feel like a change.
'Not enough late war planes in the game for you? A late war "missun" in the MA.... No thanks....lazs'
to be honest laz id like to see less late war stuff by using same perking method we used on F4uc but rather than try for that yet again i just wanted a 'quick fix' change for a month.remember I did state only for 1 tour.
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hazed....
you would get much more variety for your buck if you just perked pee51d's... dee 9's G10's and la7's and typhies for a tour... make em about oh... 60 perks each.
lazs
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Originally posted by Ecke-109-
For every sim-freak,there is only one solution to pass time till AH2 release.
Buy Il2-FB and get familiar with it.Its seems to be much closer to reality than AH.
Its hard to handle ...and so beautiful graphics!
When i get bored flying in the furballislandmap with its anttrails, i switch to ubi.com and fly Il2-FB.
So i get the training which that sim needs.
And if AH2 doesnt fullfill my expectations, i will be well prepared to switch to Il2-FB-DID.
Ecke
Well, either the webmaster screwed up, or that sim doesn't have a P-38... :rolleyes:
http://www.il2sturmovik.com/games_elts/fb_aircraft.php
F4i
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In WB every plane gets used... ;)
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Originally posted by gofaster
The last time I flew a perked plane I lost my UDP (looked everywhere for it, but it wasn't to be found). I don't fly perked planes anymore, though lately I've been jonesing for some jet combat so maybe I'll take a 262 or something up one night.
There are times when I actually miss Air Warrior's Korean War arena. :(
I miss the Air Warrior Korean arena ALL the time
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Originally posted by Deth7
I miss the Air Warrior Korean arena ALL the time
Yessss...those jet vs. jet fights were awesome. :D
F4i
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Yes I like to see those planes unperked for a tour. It would be a fun change of pace.
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"In WB every plane gets used... "
yeah.. by about 30 people.
lazs
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Free Tempests? Hell yes!
DmdMax
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Originally posted by lazs2
"In WB every plane gets used... "
yeah.. by about 30 people.
lazs
You don't need more than that for a furball.
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Why not come over to the Combat Theatre.
262's, Spit XIV, Tempest's and the F4U-4's are free this tour!!! :D
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Why not come over to the Combat Theatre.
262's, Spit XIV, Tempest's and the F4U-4's are free this tour!!! :D
262's free means everyone will just use those , making it rather dull in the long term, due to the fact 262s arent particularly suitable for a fun dogfight.
like i said i only want to see a change in the MA in order to shift the planeset use a bit. Be that perking the late war models for a bit or unperking the perk planes so they take over as the most used for a month then Id be happy.
I wouldnt want this to become perminant because whatever planes are the top dog in the MA you will eventually get bored of them.We need a VARIETY so it needs to be a dynamic system really.One that will change as the use of different planes changes.
Cant see that happening so as a quick fix lets just have a tour with plenty of f4u4's, spit14's and tempests.why not? what harm can it do? it cant be anymore offputting for customers than the endless la7s/spit9/nik fights we see now.:p
and your right laz p51d,190d9s etc are also so common now that even fights with them are becoming a little stale and dull.I long for some engagements ive never had like tempest vs F4u4 or similar.Ive never or rarely encountered these types.