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Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Reschke on June 10, 2003, 09:20:34 AM
Bus Driving Mom Arrested for giving alcohol to 8th graders. (http://www.bellsouth.net/s/editorial.dll?bfromind=98&eeid=3884986&eetype=article&render=y&ck=&channel=news&_lid=150&_lnm=home+newsCenter+TopHeadlines)
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Dowding on June 10, 2003, 09:35:10 AM
What's 8th grade mean? 12 years old?
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Ripsnort on June 10, 2003, 09:38:29 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
What's 8th grade mean? 12 years old?


13 yrs. old for me. I graduated when I was 17.  So yeah, roughly that age. 13-14.
Title: YOu must be british!
Post by: Syzygyone on June 10, 2003, 09:49:04 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
What's 8th grade mean? 12 years old?


LOL Dowd!  That;s actually a good question.  8th grade one would think would be the 8th year in school.  Usually it's not, if you count kindergarten (usually age 5) which precedes 1st grade iin most American elementary schools.  And, that's not all.  A lot of American's now send their children to "pre-school", sometimes associated with an elementary school and sometimes not.

So, 8th grade can be the 9th or even 10th year of school.

More bizarre facts about American schools.

In the older post WWII times, elementary school was K-8.  High School was 9-10.  But, in hgih school, they don't use the numbers.  It's freshman, sophmore, junior and senior, in my experience.  Then, there was a move toward junior high shcools which was 7, 8 and 9th grades, leaving only k-6 in elementary schools and only three years in highschool.  Then, when it was discovered that it was not a good idea to have 15-16 year olds in a school with non-driving kids, there was another move to "middle schools" which put 6, 7 and 8 graders together, which would then feed into four year highschools, leaving elmentary schools K - 5th grade.

And this of course is not an all inclusive listing of american school organization.

Sheesh!  It's embarassing!:o

Oh an obviosuly we need to do a better job of typing/spelling instruction.

Okay, got that Dowd, ole' bean!


:D
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Raubvogel on June 10, 2003, 10:14:52 AM
I really don't see the problem here.
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Pei on June 10, 2003, 10:38:13 AM
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
I really don't see the problem here.


that's because you never went to school :D
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Suave on June 10, 2003, 11:08:58 AM
Americans think children shouldn't drink. We're odd that way . In america beer and whine is percieved more as a party drug than as food.  That's probably why americans are such bad drunks when we become adults .

I remember in highschool german class we watched a movie about german highschool students. In the movie they were drinking beer while doing homework .
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Mini D on June 10, 2003, 11:14:21 AM
Link is dead.
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: vorticon on June 10, 2003, 01:10:45 PM
8th graders (as in grade 8) are anywhere from 12-14 years old...and if it was american beer there should be no problem...

ive been drinking whiskey since i was 13...im not even close to a alchoholic...
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Post by: capt. apathy on June 10, 2003, 02:27:29 PM
the link is dead.  but if she was giving it to her own kid and nobody else’s I don't see the problem.

I think the whole idea of no drinking until your 21st birthday is idiotic.  kids should start drinking while they are under the supervision and control of their parents.  I've been allowed to drink since I was a kid (only when parents where present on our own property or at a family party at an aunts or uncles house).

when my friends turned 18 they all drove to Kansas to drink (Missouri age 21 Kansas 18).  they'd drive 30-40 miles to drink then drive back, drunk.  they  where completely unsupervised and away from home.  they'd have been much better off drinking at home but their parents where too concerned with being 'good parents' to allow that.

I never went through the binge drinking and dui's like most of the kids who chose to drink but whose parents didn't allow it.

another added benefit was that since we where allowed to drink and be around drinkers from an early age we saw all types of drinkers.  including those who make an bellybutton of themselves and don't know how to regulate their drinking or know when to say when.  it inspires you not to be one of those
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Frogm4n on June 10, 2003, 07:58:38 PM
americans are terrible drinkers because of the taboo the wacko nut cases put on beer. kids wouldnt go binge drink themselves to death if it wasnt for the puritan wack jobs in this country telling everyone its so evil.

there is nothing wrong with anyone having some whine or beer with their meal if their parents think its alright.
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Reschke on June 11, 2003, 01:03:27 AM
Personally I don't think having a couple of drinks is a bad thing. What I thought was the DA (Dumb Arse) award here was renting a hotel room and buying the beer for the kids. I remember going to family friends homes with my parents around that age and having a few ice cold beers or even a couple of drinks of scotch.

BUT that stupid lady should have known better than to have it in an area which would be like that.

At least my Dad would bring home a GP Medium tent and cots if I wanted to have a nice big party. If you got to drunk to drive home he would either drive you home or force you to stay on a cot in the tent and he would contact your parents. Then you had to call them first thing in the morning. Funny how things are much more civilized when the parents know and how much more fun they can be.
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Post by: capt. apathy on June 11, 2003, 03:19:24 AM
we almost had to drink as kids.  my dad and his budies would pack for a fishing trip. 3 men and me and the little brother.  when the day starts getting hot you'd pop open the cooler to find a case and a half of beer and 2 pepsi's
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Nifty on June 11, 2003, 09:02:55 AM
there's a difference between giving your kid and friends a beer or 2 and going through 3 cases and a case of bacardi silver.   That's 96 beers/malt beverages between a mom and 6 12-14 year old kids.  Maybe the article was misleading and not all of the individual drinks were consumed.  If it's accurate, then the mom took the kids on a binge drinking session.  That's not good even if it wasn't against the law here.

$75,000 posted for bail.  Wow, she's got resources (or took out a bail bond.)
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Suave on June 11, 2003, 09:33:53 AM
What article ?
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Nifty on June 11, 2003, 09:37:29 AM
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Originally posted by Suave
What article ?

am I the only one that gets the article by clicking on the link in Reschke's initial post?
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Suave on June 11, 2003, 09:47:12 AM
I guess so, that link has allways been broken for me .
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Ripsnort on June 11, 2003, 10:03:00 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
americans are terrible drinkers because of the taboo the wacko nut cases put on beer. kids wouldnt go binge drink themselves to death if it wasnt for the puritan wack jobs in this country telling everyone its so evil.

there is nothing wrong with anyone having some whine or beer with their meal if their parents think its alright.


I somewhat agree with your analogy, but I don't think its wack jobs..I just think some parents are over protective.  If you take the mystery out of firearms with your kids, teach them to respect guns and teach them gun safety, and enjoy the sport of shooting with them, they tend to grow up safe and responsible gun owners.  Same is applied to alcohol....teach them safe and responsible drinking by being an example yourself by drinking with social responsibility in mind, then your kids are unlikely to binge drink since the "mystery" of consuming alcohol is no longer present.

My parents allowed me a beer or two at around age 16 if I consumed it socially, usually someones birthday party or a seasonal event (New years, Christmas Dinner, etc)...and always at home.
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: Mini D on June 11, 2003, 10:07:12 AM
Wouldn't that mean you have kids that are completely comfortable with guns, but have abnormal behavior around porch lights?  Is that really a safe combination?

MiniD
Title: Stupid Parenting Award
Post by: gofaster on June 11, 2003, 01:16:40 PM
"Page Cannot Be Found."

That's why I cut-n-paste text when I want to rattle the cages with a news article.