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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dingy on June 20, 2000, 03:32:00 PM
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Got into a GREAT fite with Nikoli earlier today with him in his Zeke. Lemme tell ya, that Yak handles like a dream! Lack of WEP doesnt seem to be an issue as its got lots of power to spare.
Was able to keep the fite verticle and deny the slow climbing Zeke any shot of shot.
Only problem with the Yak is that the armament sucks. I got good hits and spent half my ammo on the Zeke and it didnt go down (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Oh well, maybe I can chalk it up to a problem with the Internet! <S> Nikoli!
That fite was fun while we were connected! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-Ding
PS...Yup edited the message to state that its the YAK's armament that sucks..not the Zekes.
[This message has been edited by Dingy (edited 06-20-2000).]
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Only problem with the Zeke is that the armament sucks. I got good hits and spent half my ammo on the Zeke and it didnt go down (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
You mean the Yak's armament sucks. right? I wouldn't expect the A6M5b to die quickly, it had upgraded armor with fire extinguishers in the fuel tanks and an armored windscreen.
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Dingy,
I hate both you and Nikoli (sorry squadmate)!!
I'm still at work...10 minutes to go though...sneaking out while I can...hehe.
Cobra
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Is it me or the YAK WEP doesnt work?
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Hi Yak experts!
I need to know the following :
How does the Yak turn compared to the p51 we have in AH?
How much faster is the Yak compared to the p51 we have in AH?
How is the Yaks climb compared to the p51 we have in AH?
How is the Yaks dive compared to the p51 we have in AH?
I have no clue about the Yak as you can see hehe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Regards.
Maniac - P51 freak (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Well, I dont know the figures but in WB's the Yak-3 was trouble for the pony. It will outclimb and outroll the pony, topspeed is close but the pony still has that advantage. Turnrate overall goes to the yak. The biggest weakness for the yak is its ammo load and its fuel capacity.
Checkout the yak in my signature--its a Yak-9D
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Originally posted by Maniac:
Hi Yak experts!
I need to know the following :
How does the Yak turn compared to the p51 we have in AH?
Very good but bleeds e quickly.
How much faster is the Yak compared to the p51 we have in AH?
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51 is faster than the Yak at all altitudes.
How is the Yaks climb compared to the p51 we have in AH?
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The Yak climbs to 16k in 3 minutes 48 seconds. (historically with VK 107A)Nuff said.
How is the Yaks dive compared to the p51 we have in AH?
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Yak reaches speed quicker in a dive but 51 high speed handling is better.
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So if the Yak is slower than the 51 at all altitudes, it should be slower than the Typhoon under about 12k?
About half an hour ago I was flying level 8k in my trusty Tiffie and had a flypast from a Yak at 9k going in the exact opposite direction. I hit the WEP, staying dead straight, looked back 2 minutes later and he was dead on my 6, gaining - got a bit whiny after that I'm afraid to say. Maybe I was just too heavy on fuel - can the Tiffie still hold its own at low level? Or does the Yak outperform it?
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Did a little speed testing - 10k, from equal speed 50% fuel to full power (Yak), WEP (Tiffie), Yak pulled ahead by a good 10-20mph I'd guess. That's not a great deal, so I guess I cried wolf a bit - the yak I ran into must have been very low on fuel or something. I'm sure I'll find out sea level comparison in good time...
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There were 2 versions of the Yak9U:
1) The first 9Us were powered by the VK105PF-3, very weak engine carried over from the -9D.
2) From August 1944 onward they were powered by the more potent VK 107A, which gave it a max speed of 434 mph at 16k and 379 mph at SL... after flying for a bit at 16k, I could never reach anything close to 350 mph, max I was getting was about 300 with 75% fuel.
So it seems that we have the VK105 version, which doesn't make much sense since more were produced with the Vk107, still, however, even with the 107 the 51 should still be faster than the Yak at all alt except for maybe 10-20k.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
Most plans are just inaccurate predictions.
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What's with that sudden slowing in the readings? What alt exactly? (Looks suspiciously like 8k.. damn, I can't trust anything Pyro posts anymore) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And do you have one of those for the Typhoon? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by -duma- (edited 06-20-2000).]
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Cool. After looking at that chart Pyro posted above and comparing it to the 51's, it's looking like the two are very close in speed all the way to 15k. The 51 appears to have a slight edge in some areas, but the differences are quite small.
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i was at SL near 27 heading A1 (cause out of ammo) folowing by 1one 190 and two Zeke (knight)
they cannot gain on me .. was very cool Sea level between 350-400 mph
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Pyro, how does it look with climb?
After trying the Yak, what I feared would haoppen did; the 109, an ungainly clumsy aircraft lost its edge. It might have a little edge on overall topspeed (gonna time that later) but Yak appears to do everythign else either better or so little less good that the difference is all but unimportant.
Good thing there's a new ride in town - A5.
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I like the Yak, I got a 3 Kill sortie in one, but got caught by a Damn Zeke low! Ya Bastage!
It don't carry a lot of stones, but its a good plane. I like catching Niks and 205, and the escape burst against ponies.
Don't get caught low by Spits and Zekes.
Don't get caught with an A5 above you.
Saw one cannon hog, a spit saved its life before I could get to it.
Oh Yeah, the Spit Nine seems to have it all over the Yak? Is that right, any spit I ran into was all over me, even when I tried to run.
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Gatt, the Yakolev doesn't have WEP. Hitting the WEP button won't do squat. It isn't a bug. It is supposed to be that way.
Neither does the Zero.
Does our Yak-9 have the Vk105 or Vk107 engine?
Hans.
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Downtown,
A Yak is not as maneuverable as a Spit9, so don't try to turnfight it. BnZ them.
Hans,
Judging from its performance, I'd say VK-107.
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[This message has been edited by leonid (edited 06-21-2000).]
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I just sat in the cockpit to set views and flew stand alone loops till I augered but I noticed the view seems very good.
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WTF??? Pyro, do you have these charts on all the planes? Where are they! I just downloaded 1.03 and would like to see how they all compare now.
Thanks
Ouch out
Originally posted by Pyro:
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Ouch out
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Bf Yak 9U
Bavarian FlukestangleWerK?
Or whatever the BF in BF 109 is, it's not Messerschmitt.
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Bf = Bayerische Flugzeugwerke
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I put that together quickly using the 109 chart as a template and mucked up the title. You can see the speed and climb charts in the help section of our webpage. It's in the "In the game" section.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
Most plans are just inaccurate predictions.
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[Typing this from the computer class in Richmond, so I haven't actually flown this version yet]
*sigh*
whelp from the performance charts that are posted, I can see that the Yak-9U got the same production/prototype issue screwing that out La-5fn is a victim off (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
The Russians were the only country in the world that kept track of "production" performance testing (Russia did both types), versus the "prototype" testing that every other country did. And now every Russian plane in the game performs badly for it. Ridiculous.
Did any of the armament options for the Yak get put in? From the comments I have seen, they have not.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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The only option is fuel. And stop whining. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Verm,
Fear not, the Yak-9U in AH is amazing, as is. I've been flying it almost 100% of the time, and I have to say I almost feel invincible from all but the most asinine moves I've pulled in it. Though there are no armament options I find it adequate for a 1-3 kill sortie. To be honest, if this planes was given any more performance 'punch' I'd almost feel guilty (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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[This message has been edited by leonid (edited 06-24-2000).]
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She has one hellacious amount of control surface authority when in the vertical and at 60-75 IAS... is that accurate??
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