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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Erlkonig on June 16, 2003, 09:52:14 AM
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That's what the limey bio-weapon experts say. (http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,977853,00.html)
Iraqi mobile labs nothing to do with germ warfare, report finds
Peter Beaumont, Antony Barnett and Gaby Hinsliff
Sunday June 15, 2003
The Observer
An official British investigation into two trailers found in northern Iraq has concluded they are not mobile germ warfare labs, as was claimed by Tony Blair and President George Bush, but were for the production of hydrogen to fill artillery balloons, as the Iraqis have continued to insist.
The conclusion by biological weapons experts working for the British Government is an embarrassment for the Prime Minister, who has claimed that the discovery of the labs proved that Iraq retained weapons of mass destruction and justified the case for going to war against Saddam Hussein.
Instead, a British scientist and biological weapons expert, who has examined the trailers in Iraq, told The Observer last week: 'They are not mobile germ warfare laboratories. You could not use them for making biological weapons. They do not even look like them. They are exactly what the Iraqis said they were - facilities for the production of hydrogen gas to fill balloons.'
The conclusion of the investigation ordered by the British Government - and revealed by The Observer last week - is hugely embarrassing for Blair, who had used the discovery of the alleged mobile labs as part of his efforts to silence criticism over the failure of Britain and the US to find any weapons of mass destruction since the invasion of Iraq.
The row is expected to be re-ignited this week with Robin Cook and Clare Short, the two Cabinet Ministers who resigned over the war, both due to give evidence to a House of Commons inquiry into whether intelligence was manipulated in the run-up to the war. It will be the first time that both have been grilled by their peers on the Foreign Affairs Select Committee over what the Cabinet was told in the run-up to the war.
MPs will be keen to explore Cook's explanation when he resigned that, while he believed Iraq did have some WMD capability, he did not believe it was weaponised.
The Prime Minister and his director of strategy and communications, Alastair Campbell, are expected to decline invitations to appear. While MPs could attempt to force them, this is now thought unlikely to happen.
The Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, is expected to give evidence the week after.
The revelation that the mobile labs were to produce hydrogen for artillery balloons will also cause discomfort for the British authorities because the Iraqi army's original system was sold to it by the British company, Marconi Command & Control.
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Oh well, another case of 'there's nothing to see here'. The search goes on...
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Originally posted by Erlkonig
That's what the limey bio-weapon experts say.[/URL]
Limey Bio-Weapon?
Is that the one that explodes and spreads nasty lime all over the place. Man, that's vicious. You ever get lime in your eyes?
Harsh!
Damn, I knew we couldn't trust Blair!
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Would US Army bust me up for WMD, if I would put a bottle of hydrogen in the back of my car?
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Well a car is a haphazard yet simple delivery device for WMD. So yes.
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saddam:: we must hide the hydrogen gas generation trucks.
iraq general:: yes your highness, they must not fall into the hands of the yankee pigs, we will bury them in the desert.
saddam :: make it so.
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Why is this not funny?
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Originally posted by john9001
saddam:: we must hide the hydrogen gas generation trucks.
iraq general:: yes your highness, they must not fall into the hands of the yankee pigs, we will bury them in the desert.
saddam :: make it so.
I thought the coalition supremacy in air and space provided them so good intelligence data that it would been impossible to move things away from the facilities without their knowledge :D
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fishu, the iraqis would move things between satellite passes, everyone knows this, even CNN
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Yeah Fishu!
Everyone Knows Saddam would simply move stuff between satellite pases...
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Originally posted by john9001
saddam:: we must hide the hydrogen gas generation trucks.
iraq general:: yes your highness, they must not fall into the hands of the yankee pigs, we will bury them in the desert.
saddam :: make it so.
and what did you expected.... that these hydrogen generators will stay in the garage ??
ofcourse, they are out, coz they are doing their job.... they are sending ballons
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Do you still remember that $H|+ about Red line ?
Pentagon released infomation that Iraq will use WMD, if Us troops will cross "red line" around Baghdad...
one very serious women with realy great cares spoke about this on CNN... ahh yeah she was from Pentagon
In my opinion Donald Duck has been created in pentagon... they simply rock in spreading BS
(ok ok i know older series about Donald, whitch has been created in communist countries arent that baaad )
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Originally posted by 10Bears
Yeah Fishu!
Everyone Knows Saddam would simply move stuff between satellite pases...
lol satellites sux :D
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Well, then Iraqis have been simply superb at moving away the WMD in all the stealthiness - avoiding the western air & space recon equiptment.
They surely can stealthily hide all the WMD, but not some small mass graves, which has required less effort than hiding WMD.
So.. all the intelligence advantages the western powers posesses, had this hide-the-WMD operation go unnoticed.
Even from the civils.
All these ex-iraqi officials have given up information to the coalition forces, but not a single lousy guard has turned up and said "I know a plant which had a WMD storage, but they moved it out from there..."
Actually.. it is interesting how byrocrats knew more about WMD than their own intelligence services!
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Ok.....in my opinion I am glad that the Iraqi people are rid of Saddam Hussein...My opinion.
Now....I was driving back from Durango Colorado yesterday after a weekend of fishing. I was on Highway 550 headed to Albuquerque NM. My buddies and I had this similar discussion.
All I had to say was....hey guys if I had a drum full of (insert WMD of choice here) do you think the US could find it.
One of the guys said hell yes. I then proceded to tell him that I would take that drum and go 1 mile to the left of the road and bury it 3 feet under the NM desert. Do you think you could find that? HELL NO! It would take a very long time.
If the Iraqi's had WMD's I am pretty sure they would have hid them somewhere.
Someone come up with a method of finding them....ANYONE? Its tough.....
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IMAO but Sadam is big moron
anyway why should SH hide WMD instead of using then, specialy when somebody gonna eat him ?
WMD wasnt proved
they said that they have no WMD
2 months affter conflict and you found nothing
aahh yeah and they didnt use then at all
lol but keep searching you can do it :cool:
but dont be surprised, when iraqi will throw rocks on you
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They've been able to find barrels, bunkers, trailers, radioactive material, weapons/technology dated after the first gulf war...
but not a single tiny evidence of WMD.
You'd think it'd be rather impossible to hide ALL of the WMD evidence from the facilities itself, even if all the stuff has been moved away..
I mean.. nowadays it is nothing new to find finger prints, DNA, dried blood, washed blood, powder marks, toxics... etc. in crime investigations.
Yet they have the modest equiptment to search for marks of WMD, which is allegedly been produced in bigger quantities than a single barrel.
Even the bloody news networks have done better job at finding evidence of this and that...
To complete this scenario, we just need to find the WMD barrels from Iraq with a label "Made in USA, 2003" :rolleyes:
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lol
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there aren't any weapons of mass destruction there. That's what makes it so damn hard to find them, but I'm sure Bush and a few resourceful men will find them.
By the way, how do you destroy mass? convert it back to energy and radiate it?
Bozon
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Who let the tards off their medications?
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Originally posted by Mighty1
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Who let the tards off their medications?
Maybe some needs medication for paranoia?-)