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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hangtime on June 20, 2000, 09:34:00 PM
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Frame rates went to hell.
RW is porked.. crashes me to desktop. (Mk1.a)
Rolled my pony inverted at 350mph; and pulled.. it STALLED. What they do to flight model?
Guns seem feeble as hell.. they turned the .50's down AGAIN?
Prop drag seems nice.. but gee; they made the accel WORSE?
Smooth wheels up ditch at 105mph.. died. Thats not 'high speed'.. issit?
Are the servers unable to handle the DL's and 100 players?? It's lag/warp city in there...
Dammo.. too many things... waaaay to many things moved in my cage at one time. I wanna jump up and down and say "Yeah; new version!".. instead it's "aww; crap.. dumped again"
*sigh*
Hang (dissapointed)
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I've gotten dumped at least 15 times tonight.
"SIGH" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
I had 18 CTD's too, really annoying. I mean my comp NEVER acted up untill 1.03.
"another SIGH"
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Its always the same. OOO. ahh. Then the screeming starts.
Personelly, I trade all the eyecandy for the stability of the beta arena in a hartbeat.
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Yeah, eye candy is almost never worth the price. Try flying low over a smoking field, your fps goes down to roman numerals.
ra
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Yours does. Mine doesn't.
I have enjoyed this version very much so far. Yes, there was lag, but that is most likely due to the d/l. No biggie. Just flew expecting to dump and that it would be hard to guess where people were. Granted, I wouldn't want this to be normal, but I can take tonight for what it was.
Hangtime, I doubt the .50's were changed, rather the load is high at the moment and you are losing packets. But, you know this already. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Black smoke is too intense!! I flew through it and FR went down to 5 or 6, WOW!! When I came out to clear sky it jumped back up to normal 50+, do a look back at the smoke and back to the basement FR wise. It's nice to have the smoke (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Needs a small breeze to move it over the area though. He heee, AlGore know you polutin the area, he'll come for ya <"Janet we have a new big bzzness for ya to target. Forget BIG tobacco,get HTC!!">.
BTW, who has the scrap metal consession in the MA? Whoever it is is gettin rich!!! They prolly using overmodelled 18 wheelers to haul it away!!!
Hangtime, ya gotta get the .54 RW before it will work.
[This message has been edited by 1776 (edited 06-20-2000).]
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I have the most recent version or RW.. not the beta. It's version mk.1a; It's working.. but still bounces me to desktop. 5 times I discoed when keying the mike.
The Number keypad no longer types numbers in the text buffer... now I gotta retype anything that has a number in it; ie re-learn how to type. Marvelous. If you get no "hi 109' warnings from me you'll know why.
The flight model has me wondering.. that split 's' stall at 350 had me cursing for 20 minutes. Do I need to re-learn how to fly? Why is the accel worse? Odd byproduct of prop drag?
Was sitting down a goon at 85 IAS; wheels DOWN off the runway... and died. Methinks the ditch models a bit harsh. Pony died in a clean ditch at 110 wheels down (or up)... if I ran my car off the road at 85 or 110 I'd for sure live if I kept it upright... and with my seatbelt/shoulder harness on, prolly still walk away if I rolled it. Jeep does a better job of protecting the driver I guess... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
All the eye candy is very nice... but understand that I just spent 400 bucks in the last coupla months gettin the machine upgraded to produce decent frame rates. Now it's WORSE than before I upgraded. THAT pisses me off. A Celeron 466 w/32meg RAM 770 vid card and 128 meg of ram should not be incompetent running this sim. Frame rates less than 10 in a furball near smoke or clouds ain't right... or flyable.
U expect me to be 'happy' with these changes?
I'd suggest that HTC give us updates more often, with fewer changes per update; rather than changing so drasticly so many things at once.
Damn... whatta lousy day. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Hang
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Mk1a is not the latest RW. They have a newer version that just came out.
Dago
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FM: I don't know if there has been a change, the P-51 felt a bit mushy to me, but I've been flying the 190 for the last week or so, so maybe I just need to get used to it again. Also, in the P-51 I got into my first unrecoverable flat spin today. I don't know if there has been a FM change, but if there was I like it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ditching: I just performed a very ugly ditch in a 109G-10 (planes don't glide as easy as before) off field, gear down, and I survived no problem.
Kieren: What kind of super computer u runnin on? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
ra
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IMHO the new a/c and features will be well worth it after the bugs get chased out. I had CTDs but I also had a blast tonite!
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Waxer
II/JG2 Richthofen
(http://home.earthlink.net/~neiljohnston/_uimages/waxer1.jpg)
"Nothin' up my sleeve...Presto!"
[This message has been edited by Waxer (edited 06-21-2000).]
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Can't say I share your sentiment Hangtime. I wasn't on earlier... but flew for a bit later without problems. The F4u-1D seemed to behave as usual and the .50's were accurate enough and lethal enough to de-wing a p-38 almost instantly. The prop drag will take some getting used to though.
Some times the "dumming" down of weaps can be attributed to lag. Judging by the ammount of people simultaneously downloading an 8 meg file.. I'd say the lag was to be expected.
AKDejaVu
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AH writeup specifically refers to v. 0.54, that's beta mk. 1c
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Hang, my system is ALMOST identical to yours. Absolutely no drop in fps here. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/confused.gif)
My system: 466 Celeron, 96 Mb ram, V 770 Ultra 32 meg card.
(Make sure you are running Diamond 4.01 or 4.02 drivers.) Those Det 5.22's are no good IMO for DX games. Why don't you try a reinstall of the Diamond drivers and see if that doesn't fix it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
I'll agree with you that the p51 sure is tough to control now though.
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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
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Each new version since day one has gone through a few days of furious bug fixin' and patchin'. There's far too much to like in this realease to fret over the things that will be cleaned up very soon. It just seems a little premature to get worked up about this.
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FPS went to hell on my machine too, Clouds are ok im still getting 33-45 FPS but I went to field A7 and there were 2 big clouds of black smoke, I just looked at them and FPS went down to 6-8, I flew through them and It went down to 4 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif).
My computer Celron 366 @ 456
V3 3000
128 meg SDRAM
Latest V3 Drivers.
This computer has ran AH since the beta and I have allways been in 1024x768 with great FPS, I tried the new 1.03 in 640x480 and it was just as bad as 1024x768.
The black smoke around bases once something has been blown up is way over done, it looks like the bases have sprouted little volcanos
I hope they give the players away to toggle this off & on.
Other than that its a great update, pity I cant/wont play it with the current FPS.
Hotdog
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using clouds as smoke would rock
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I was on earlier in the night and my Frame Rate dropped from 45 to 2 going through two lots of smoke. I haven't tried it since then as there was a server problem and I was having more discoes than John Travolta.
'Nexx'
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Hotdog, think that i usually fly in clear sky with 6-8 fps (now 4-5, guess download-lag), yesterday in a1 (smoke), i got 1 fps. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
max achieved in precedeing version: 15 fps, but i was kissed by God (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
My pc:
CPU - PII-266
RAM - 128Mb 100mhz
VID - Ati Rage 3d pro 32Mb
3DFX - Voodoo Graphics 8Mb
SB - SB live 1024
Latest drivers and dx
I guess is old-processor, someone have ideas 'bout what modify in setup or OS (W98 SE) to squeeze better performance ?
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Agreed NASH, Settle down guys. HTC will fix the bugs, you got to give them credit for bringing out so much with this version. SO be patient, hell they haven't even woken up yet.
GOrf
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hang... the game was very unstable last night and maybe all the downloads or the fact that so many people gathered around one spot had a lot to do with it but... It still appears at this point that you are right. The pony was a dog. I was easily outturned by the A5 in both the horizontal and the vertical. Acceleration doesn't seem to be even close. Got good solid hits on 190's with the ,50's with no effect I could see. Lag guns killed well.
Oh... I hope it was the state of the net last night but.... I seen some very "WB" like warp rolls done by desperate 190A5's last night. I also hope that some of the 190 acceleration i seen was a result of net lag. I allmost overran a couple of them doing warp rolls and then had em accelerate away from my lag when I slowed to get the shot.
lazs
Smoke (I thought it was a tornado or a video card glitch) dropped my frame rate an ungawdly amount. Thought i would use it to momentarily escape the vultch fest a 13-14... Big mistake.
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Give HTC a few days to release a patch or two to fix the obvious flaws in 1.03(just like they've done after every release to date).
Everyone who's been flying AH for a while should know that during the first day or two of a new release, there are increased discoes and warps due to downloading.
Patience, young Jedi. I'm sure HTC will be more than interested in quashing any bugs.
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Pyro posted some P51 data about 2-3 weeks ago and mentioned that the data at that time for P51 was not correct, so, evidently they fixed the P51 closer to how it behaved historically ? Dunno, don't fly it.
[This message has been edited by TinkyWinky (edited 06-21-2000).]
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Hey hang,
466 isn't up to date for gammers right now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Have a celi 400 oc to 450 + TNT2 ultra with ok results in AH 1.03 but i'm collecting my bucks to buy a P3 700-8oomhz in the near future (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
blitz
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I was not dumped once last night. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I did not experience a frame rate plummet with the new version. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I did not experience much excessive lag last night. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
You can all hate me now. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Unfortunately, I did not get a single kill and was shot down 5 times. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
edit: BTW I have an Athlon 700 with a GeForce256 DDR connected through ADSL.
Sisu
-Karnak
[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 06-21-2000).]
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Originally posted by Karnak:
I was not dumped once last night. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I did not experience a frame rate plummet with the new version. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I did not experience much excessive lag last night. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
You can all hate me now. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Unfortunately, I did not get a single kill and was shot down 5 times. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
edit: BTW I have an Athlon 700 with a GeForce256 DDR connected through ADSL.
Sisu
-Karnak
[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 06-21-2000).]
frame rates?
Memory?
Make of Geforce?
will be upgrading soon....
Last version-39fps
This version-21(best)
12(typical)
3(worst.arround bases with flame or smoke)
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Originally posted by -lazs-:
I seen some very "WB" like warp rolls done by desperate 190A5's last night. I also hope that some of the 190 acceleration i seen was a result of net lag. I allmost overran a couple of them doing warp rolls and then had em accelerate away from my lag when I slowed to get the shot.
lazs
Lazs: I only flew the A5 twice last nite, but from inside the cockpit - the dang thing snap rolls like you wouldn't believe, and sometimes snaps at the beginning of a break turn of you haul too desperately ;p on the stick.
FYI
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Waxer
II/JG2 Richthofen
(http://home.earthlink.net/~neiljohnston/_uimages/waxer1.jpg)
"Nothin' up my sleeve...Presto!"
[This message has been edited by Waxer (edited 06-21-2000).]
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Oh... I hope it was the state of the net last night but.... I seen some very "WB" like warp rolls done by desperate 190A5's last night. I also hope that some of the 190 acceleration i seen was a result of net lag. I allmost overran a couple of them doing warp rolls and then had em accelerate away from my lag when I slowed to get the shot.
lazs
I saw the same desperate warps with all a/c- it was not a normal AH night for lag.
I think we need to wait a few days to see how it sorts out, as I don't think we have seen a stable environment for 1.03 just yet...
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Pongo,
I have the following specs:
Athlon 700
Abit KA7
128 Mb of Micro PC133 RAM
Leadtek WinFast GeForce256 DDR
Soundblaster Live Platinum
SCSI3 Drive setup.
How much do you have to spend?
If you have $1,250.00-$2,000.00 or so, I'd reccomend the following:
If you're willing to wait a month or so:
SocketA Athlon at about 900Mhz
Asus KT133 based motherboard.
If you must have it NOW:
SlotA Athlon 900Mhz
Abit KA7-100
128-256Mb of Micron PC133 RAM
Leadtek GeForce2
Soundblaster Live Gamer
UDMA100 Hard drice.
I'll try to get frame rates for you when I get home.
Sisu
-Karnak
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I posted some info in the Internet connection forum about the connections.
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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
President, AppLink Corp.
http://www.applink.net
skuzzy@applink.net
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Hang...
Was up last night in p51, fast 3 kill sortie 2 Yaks & 1 Zeke.
There have been no changes to the p51. Guns are the same and FM hasnt changed at all.
Also,my frame rate has remained the same,ive taken not hits at all.
Only problem i have is when i click online AH minumizes to desktop,then i go back in & click on arena it minumizes again. Then when i click on fly it does it one last time.. Then i can fly..
Also, i was in a tank,switched from upper gun to 75mm hit fire & AH closed altogether..
But the planes just rock,190a5,Yak .. lota fun last night.
Dog out...
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Gents... I'm not tryin to break HTC's chops.. not at all.
It would do them no good to report everything is hunky-dory when it ain't.
I can appreciate the servers being hammered with the downloads... but it's still an issue. Mebbe the DL site should be OFF the HTC servers. 72 hours of hammered arena flying ain't real 'user friendly' when exploring new features like the consistent dump to desktop.
Further.. I cannot fathom why half the folks in this thread see dramaticly reduced frame rates and the others don't see any change at all.... regardless; mine are screwed, and I'm just not in a financial postion to buy a new machine... and that IS a problem.. for me.
As for flight model performance and gunnery.. I'll try again tonight and put up another 4 hours... and tell yah what I find as objectivly as possible.
Certainly; if something is 'wrong' I know HTC will fix it.. I don't expect anything less... but if its 'right' on your machine, and 'very wrong' on mine they need to know that too.
Will do a full download of the new version tonight as this one I'm flying has been patched up since beta... mebbe thats the problem. Sure would be nice if they threw up some data here and tried to steer me in one direction or another to find out whats wrong... oh well; i guess I'll just have to wander thru the minefield of drivers and versions and get REALLY pissed off after all that and find its no better....
*sigh*
Hang (wishing for old version back.. it worked fine)
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WD, once I updated to lasted RW version (0.54, www.resounding.com), (http://www.resounding.com),) that swap back to desktop problem stopped.
Hang, have a beer and relax. HT and Pyro know there are problems, so what we have is a ton of new features being hard tested and tweaked or even reworked asap. One look at what's in this version should make waiting a few days for the kinks to get worked out well worth it (did anyone else run into a hill when it was pitch black darkness at night? That alone was an absolute blast).
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Fatty
Fat Drunk Bastards (http://fdb.50megs.com)
"Never before in the field of human conflict was so little owed to so few that weighed and drank so much."