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Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Modas on June 17, 2003, 07:32:20 AM
Got rid of my ATI 9500 due to a video stuttering problem and am now going to go out and get a GF4 TI4200 or TI4600...


There are 40 billion different manufacturers for these cards nowadays.  Can anyone recommend a manufacturer?  I've heard bad things about PNY.



Is it worth the extra money to get an 8x AGP versus one that only does 4X AGP?  Am I going to see a difference?



Much Thanks!
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Hap on June 17, 2003, 07:36:45 AM
evga, a nvidia release partner, made my ti-4200.  works great.  previously i owned a pny built card.  ick.  check out evga's website.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Eagler on June 17, 2003, 08:12:18 AM
have a pny ti4400 - very happy with it - though I had to exchange the first one as it was dead outa the box.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Wanker on June 17, 2003, 08:44:52 AM
No problems here with my Abit Siluro Ti-4400.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: fffreeze220 on June 17, 2003, 09:39:50 AM
I am happy with my Gainward Ti4200 64MB
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Pfunk on June 17, 2003, 10:35:22 AM
Albatron 4600 for $169

Leadtek and Gainward are great for overclocking you can get a ti4200 gainward powerpack golden sample and over clock the core and memory to 4600 speeds, but its only $18 cheaper than the albatron.


You will not see any difference between AGP 8X and 4X anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it.  It has a very very very slight difference on paper, your eyes will never see it.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: WhiteHawk on June 17, 2003, 12:00:44 PM
ok..isnt a gf 4 ti4200 a gf4 ti4200 reguardlesss of the manjufacturer?  canadian tempo vs a US tempo vs a mexican tempo?

I got a xtasy ti 4200 and am quite happy with it, although I havnt had a chance to compare different manufactureres versions.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Modas on June 17, 2003, 12:34:09 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
ok..isnt a gf 4 ti4200 a gf4 ti4200 reguardlesss of the manjufacturer?  canadian tempo vs a US tempo vs a mexican tempo?

I got a xtasy ti 4200 and am quite happy with it, although I havnt had a chance to compare different manufactureres versions.



Theoretically, they should be all the same.  I was more curious if anyone was having any issues with a particular brand (i.e quality/perfomance issues).

Thanks for the replies all....  Settled on a chaintech TI4600 128 MB 4x...

I can almost FEEL those FPS :D
Title: Re: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: ALF on June 17, 2003, 05:20:41 PM
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Originally posted by Modas
Got rid of my ATI 9500 due to a video stuttering problem and am now going to go out and get a GF4 TI4200 or TI4600...


 


Any Geforce ref board is fine.  But what are you talking about stuttering....that isnt anything Ive seen with ATI boards (got a few) unless its caused by ZOne ALarm (older versions) or other issues...the ATI boards I have all are stutter free.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: 214thCavalier on June 17, 2003, 05:46:56 PM
Uhuh then you need to go read the ATI forums, they are full of people complaining about lots of games giving stuttering video.
And i also suffer with bad Stutters only online when using the latest version of Zone alarm pro.
Also getting mouse corruption in 2d as soon as i click on the advanced tab in display settings, others have confirmed this and it seems to be a bug if you use win98 or ME.

Boy i wish i had checked those forums before buying, i would have stuck with the GF4 TI4200 128mb.

Having said that it looks much better and plays fast but it is a pain in the arse.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Reschke on June 17, 2003, 06:23:42 PM
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Originally posted by banana
No problems here with my Abit Siluro Ti-4400.


same thing for me as well with the same card.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: LePaul on June 19, 2003, 09:29:15 AM
I went with a VisionTek GeForce 4 Ti 4600  

No problems
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: Eagler on June 19, 2003, 09:38:31 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
I went with a VisionTek GeForce 4 Ti 4600  

No problems


they make good cards - my geforce 2 ultra was a VisionTek - very fast
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: JustJim on June 26, 2003, 01:34:11 AM
Currently I own a PNY  Geforce 4 Ti 4400 128 mb  very nice card it gets me 120 to 140 fps w/30.82 drivers.  

If I had to replace it with something comparable I would go with the Asus Ti 4600 they just make kick prettythang cards period

JustJim1
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Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: ALF on June 26, 2003, 05:49:00 PM
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Uhuh then you need to go read the ATI forums, they are full of people complaining about lots of games giving stuttering video.
And i also suffer with bad Stutters only online when using the latest version of Zone alarm pro.
Also getting mouse corruption in 2d as soon as i click on the advanced tab in display settings, others have confirmed this and it seems to be a bug if you use win98 or ME.
 


I can only imagin a VERY small percentage have any real issues.  Many people with problems have background programs causing issues (sone alarm is a classic for this), and often have spyware eating up cpu cycles in huge chunks.

Ive got 3 ATI cards and 2 Geforce cards, with nary a stutter on 5 seperate systems.
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: bakerm on June 27, 2003, 02:46:47 PM
This is the link to spybot software.  You'd be surprised what's on your computer.  NOJACK http://spybot.eon.net.au/
Title: Geforce 4 brand??
Post by: LoneStarBuckeye on July 02, 2003, 01:11:46 AM
The GeForce cards are not known for their 2-D display quality, and maybe you don't care about that.  But if you do, some manufacturers use output stages that produce clearer 2-D output than others.  If you hunt around the Web, you can find some discussion on this point.  It's been a long time, but if I recall correctly, the issue is output capacitors, allegedly used for FCC compliance.  The problem is, the high frequencies that get filtered out are precisely those that are needed for sharp edges in the display.  The upshot is that some manufacturers used no or smaller caps, leading to better display quality.  I believe that I also saw some guides that explained how to easily clip the output capacitors off of boards that used large ones.

I've owned three GeForce cards by three different manufacturers, and aside from 2-D display quality, I've not noticed any differences among them.

- JNOV