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Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: AKcurly on June 18, 2003, 08:00:31 AM
HTC, I'm not even going to try to talk you out of night in Aces High.  Your game ...

However, I would like to point out the following:  When I alt-tab out to adjust the gamma, 50% of the time it porks my audio.  Since I'm running win98, that means I have to cold-start my box!  Now, that is a giant pain in the tuchas.

AKIron found a neat utility http://www.entechtaiwan.com/ps.htm
which permits you to adjust the gamma without leaving Aces High.

So, how about giving us a gamma adjustment as part of the clipboard and let me save $30?

curly
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Ghosth on June 18, 2003, 08:04:55 AM
Curly,

Just turn off all the lights in the room.
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Saintaw on June 18, 2003, 08:25:33 AM
What if he's playing during daytime? :confused:
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Sox62 on June 18, 2003, 08:26:58 AM
Real men turn the gamma down. :cool:
Title: Re: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Tilt on June 18, 2003, 09:22:45 AM
an alternative is this

http://www.colorific.com/d1.htm

with it you can preset your game gamma.............


I have also heard tell that it affects the fade  rate into blackout ............ never noticed it myself
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: fullback on June 18, 2003, 10:11:13 AM
Patient: "Doctor, evertime I hit my head with a hammer, I get a headache."

Dr. AK: "Take two aspirin before you use the hammer."
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: DVDA on June 18, 2003, 10:40:14 AM
I dont understand this whole gamma thing where in windows is gamma adjustment, or is it a seprate program?

could someone please explain it in detail for me, im a handsomehunk
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: JB73 on June 18, 2003, 11:01:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DVDA
I dont understand this whole gamma thing where in windows is gamma adjustment, or is it a seprate program?

could someone please explain it in detail for me, im a handsomehunk
not on all video cards but most higher-end ones there is an adjustment for "gamma"

if you have windows media player 8 open a movie then goto enhacements and video settings or something like that. there will be a gamma setting and use that to see the effect.

if your video card does offer it it would be under the settings/advanced/ somewhere. it will make everything brighter.
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Shane on June 18, 2003, 11:34:19 AM
i'd rather at least see you pay if you're gonna game the game that much...

why am i not surprised the lengths dweebs will go to?

i don't futz with my gamma, even tho i could. i just do something else...

having said that, i wouldn't mind a much shorter "night" than current runs... dawn/dusk are soookay... maybe shorten them a tad, as well.


now pizza, otoh... needs to be darkened greatly... and lowered overall.  :D  olbigatory thread hijack.

oh yeah, perk the la7!! keep it out of noob hands and let the experten make full use of it to terrorize the clueless seals aka "vets."
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: AKcurly on June 18, 2003, 02:45:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
i'd rather at least see you pay if you're gonna game the game that much...

why am i not surprised the lengths dweebs will go to?

i don't futz with my gamma, even tho i could. i just do something else...

having said that, i wouldn't mind a much shorter "night" than current runs... dawn/dusk are soookay... maybe shorten them a tad, as well.


Look at this another way Shane.   Should a sim have features that can be worked around?  

For instance, suppose that blackout could be defeated by monitor adjustment?  Would it make sense to keep blackout?  

You might say "why, that would be cheating!"  And, I more or less agree, but a good solution would be to remove the feature that can be gamed because others will adjust their monitors.

In my case, with the room lights turned out, I can't see well enough to fly near the ground.  I have three choices: 1) crank gamma; 2) fly a buff; 3) fly a fighter into the ground.

Guess which one I don't do.

curly
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Shane on June 18, 2003, 02:53:17 PM
you have other choices...

go to DA with a buddy

take a noob or neophyte to TA/DA and *teach* them

go to CT

log off for a bit

imho i think adjusting this setting or that setting beyond "reasonable" is... well.. you know... lame... but my definitions of lame might not be yours.

like i said, *I* don't do those kind of things, but it doesn't surprise me others might...  it's up to one's self to set and hold their own standards.

YMMV and all that. check out seeker's quote in my sig.  hell, read the whole sig.... again... :D
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: AKcurly on June 18, 2003, 03:03:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
you have other choices...

go to DA with a buddy

take a noob or neophyte to TA/DA and *teach* them

go to CT

log off for a bit

imho i think adjusting this setting or that setting beyond "reasonable" is... well.. you know... lame... but my definitions of lame might not be yours.

like i said, *I* don't do those kind of things, but it doesn't surprise me others might...  it's up to one's self to set and hold their own standards.


I've never seen any reason to let others make definitions for me.  That means I'm not thinking and my "thinker" works quite well (although my eyes aren't very good.)

As to the choices that you outline above,  well, they're just not choices for me - they're more like wearing a "hair shirt."  

Your choices admit the game is generally unplayable during night time.  Why should I endorse  a game feature (by paying for it) that makes the game unplayable for me?

curly
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Shane on June 18, 2003, 03:21:08 PM
you can still  do the choices you listed... i *can* fly at nite, it's not 100% black screen.. i *do* at times play during the night doing various things, including playing pretend nite-fighter and using radar and chasing icons... it's not impossioble to play, just more of an annoyance than it's worth in general (for me anyway).

yet.... i still won't game my gamma. i deal with what i have or do something else... i'm not a slave to MA... HTC has several other nice alternatives to the MA... but again that's *me,* not *you.*

i won't complain about or accuse people of adjusting gamma because it's not a major issue to me other than the generic opinion that people who *do* crank their gamma up  or try and work around "features" for some perceived advantage (and you know who you are) are... slobberdonkeys. dead slobberdonkeys if i get them in my gunsights. usually.. unless i'm getting underwhelmed by superior numbers.

;)
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: AKcurly on June 18, 2003, 03:27:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
it's not impossioble to play, just more of an annoyance than it's worth in general (for me anyway).
;)


Exactly my opinion, thank you.

curly
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Sandman on June 18, 2003, 07:08:54 PM
Like others, I absolutely hate the night. It sucks all the fun out of the game. Game away gentlemen... you have my support.
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: dracon on June 18, 2003, 07:13:55 PM
Ya Know......

All Vid cards are not created equally.  Nor are monitors or peoples eyes.  People set their monitors and cards up differently.  Shane what's to say that your settings (default) are the same as AKcurly?  I highly doubt they are.  Would one of you be gaming the game?  I think not.

I guarentee you, you could not play on my computer at night in AH.  I run a monitor brightness of 58 (default).  I also know what night looks like in a small plane, and what night looks like where I live.  I simply adjust my brightness to what I think I should be able to see.  I adjust it as night progresses and as dawn comes.

I quite like flying at night.  I adjust but I do try to maintain the intent of the SIMM.

1/2 way ground,
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Grizzly on June 18, 2003, 09:05:16 PM
The purpose of having night in AH is because it's hard to see... it's usually dark at night yanno. It's a feature and it's supposed to be that way. When this feature was introduced many were thrilled. Now many are cranking up their gamma card setting to game the night. Not everyone has a card that will allow this, many don't know about it, and many have too much pride to resort to such things. When you game the night you have an unfair advantage over all these good people. That my friends is cheating. Spin and justify it all you wish, it's still cheating. You may never get busted for doing it, or never get thrown out of AH, but you are cheating none the less. I can understand some having no sense of decency or honor, but to oppenly admit to it and defend doing it takes a lot of nerve. Now watch how many will get upset at being called a cheater =o)
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: acetnt on June 19, 2003, 09:57:54 AM
You know Grizzly,

You did  not read dracons comment at all or if you did then you chose to completely ignore it.

 I have an ATI radeon 9000 pro card and with the default settings and my monitor ---- I cannot even see the runway as I am taxing. I am SURE that this is not the same for you because if it were  then it would surely mean that you would log off instead of flying into the ground every flight -- assuming you could get off in these conditions. So it is NOT cheating to adjust the gamma. That you would think so is very unfortunate.



Regards

P.S. You are right that people would get upset that you call this cheating, wonder if you'll be as upset if I say that you don't have a clue of what you're talking about

:eek:
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Rude on June 19, 2003, 10:59:10 AM
Stop the bickering....I'm right so listen up!

Night sucks and serves no purpose whatsoever other than to thin the player base.
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Tabasco on June 19, 2003, 01:15:08 PM
I adjust gamma just so I can see the ground and water during dusk and dawn.  When it's really *night* - full moon above the horizon, sky pitch black - cranking up gamma only cranks up my map and instrument panel illumination so much that it drowns out everything else.
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Sandman on June 19, 2003, 01:27:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Rude
Stop the bickering....I'm right so listen up!

Night sucks and serves no purpose whatsoever other than to thin the player base.



I'll agree... Rude is right. :cool:
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Sandman on June 19, 2003, 01:29:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Grizzly
The purpose of having night in AH is because it's hard to see... it's usually dark at night yanno. It's a feature and it's supposed to be that way. When this feature was introduced many were thrilled. Now many are cranking up their gamma card setting to game the night. Not everyone has a card that will allow this, many don't know about it, and many have too much pride to resort to such things. When you game the night you have an unfair advantage over all these good people. That my friends is cheating. Spin and justify it all you wish, it's still cheating. You may never get busted for doing it, or never get thrown out of AH, but you are cheating none the less. I can understand some having no sense of decency or honor, but to oppenly admit to it and defend doing it takes a lot of nerve. Now watch how many will get upset at being called a cheater =o)


I bet you don't shoot chutes either...  how noble...
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Furious on June 19, 2003, 02:05:27 PM
night time is gay.  It should go away.
(repeat)
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: dracon on June 19, 2003, 02:10:14 PM
Thanks acetnt,

Nice try Grizzly, but no ones taking your bait.....

In Idaho, Bear Baiting is great sport.  Check "6"

Dracon
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: AKIron on June 19, 2003, 05:31:43 PM
Dunno about Curly but I only adjust gamma to make the screen darker at night for the challenge. ;)
Title: A little help with night and gamma adjustment
Post by: Grizzly on June 19, 2003, 07:40:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by acetnt
You know Grizzly,

You did  not read dracons comment at all or if you did then you chose to completely ignore it.

 I have an ATI radeon 9000 pro card and with the default settings and my monitor ---- I cannot even see the runway as I am taxing. I am SURE that this is not the same for you because if it were  then it would surely mean that you would log off instead of flying into the ground every flight -- assuming you could get off in these conditions. So it is NOT cheating to adjust the gamma. That you would think so is very unfortunate.



Regards

P.S. You are right that people would get upset that you call this cheating, wonder if you'll be as upset if I say that you don't have a clue of what you're talking about

:eek:


I don't fly at night because I can't see where I'm going. Instead I'll grab an Osty or Ack and defend a base against those who game the night. I'm not at all upset. Oh, and I shoot as many chutes as I can  =oP