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Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: funkedup on June 18, 2003, 03:39:39 PM
Nice (http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/169/nation/Anniversary_benefit_to_note_Rosenberg_execution+.shtml) :rolleyes:
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Ripsnort on June 18, 2003, 03:43:13 PM
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Susan Sarandon, Harry Belafonte,


Some real "winners" there...attention starved.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2003, 03:45:16 PM
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Greenglass announced 18 months ago that he had lied about the typewriter and other matters to save himself and his wife. While decoded Soviet messages released in recent years appear to show that Julius Rosenberg was a spy, supporters say that nothing he contributed to the Soviets and nothing his wife did warranted the electric chair.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Mickey1992 on June 18, 2003, 03:46:44 PM
"....which assists children of people imprisoned, attacked, or fired for taking a public stand"

People are including foreign spies in this group?
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: funkedup on June 18, 2003, 03:51:15 PM
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supporters say that nothing he contributed to the Soviets and nothing his wife did warranted the electric chair.


"Supporters" in this case meaning anti-American activists who equate "taking a public stand" with acts of espionage which cost the lives of thousands of their countrymen and imperiled all life on earth.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Frogm4n on June 18, 2003, 03:53:53 PM
the cause for helping kids whose parents are in trouble is a good one, but the people its named after is kinda stupid.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: JB73 on June 18, 2003, 04:19:37 PM
OMFG ...i truly had never heard of that story before (i live in a cave and am a hermit)

susan s and harry b can suck a d*ck F****** traitors! even that "foundation" seems like supporters of treason to me.


sudenly the dixie chicks look like republicans to me. :eek:
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2003, 04:22:41 PM
Rosenberg was a turd, his wife was probably innocent.

However, they wouldn't have been executed if we weren't so arrogant about the Russian's ability to produce a bomb. They MUST have had spys!!!!
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: SOB on June 18, 2003, 04:34:34 PM
LOL, Harry Belafonte!  That is fantastic.  After calling Colin Powell an Uncle Tom on national television, this is a perfect follow up.  Sarandon is just continuing the show.


SOB
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: john9001 on June 18, 2003, 04:38:49 PM
MT , don't be so dense, the russians say the rosenburgs WERE spies, but the russians got the bomb design from another spy,(forget his name) the USA was full of russian spies, the russians now admit it.

McCarthy was right.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2003, 04:40:19 PM
McCarthy was an idiot.

I wouldn't wish that lame piece of crap on my worst enemy, or even you!
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Saintaw on June 18, 2003, 05:35:11 PM
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.....That's Amoreeeeeeeeee....
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Udie on June 18, 2003, 05:46:55 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
LOL, Harry Belafonte!  That is fantastic.  After calling Colin Powell an Uncle Tom on national television, this is a perfect follow up.  Sarandon is just continuing the show.


SOB




 he should run for president!
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: ra on June 18, 2003, 05:50:09 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
McCarthy was an idiot.

I wouldn't wish that lame piece of crap on my worst enemy, or even you!

He was most definitely an idiot.  And he was right.  The commies were lucky their main antagonist was a baboon.

ra
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2003, 06:53:56 PM
He was right about what?... The 500  no 300 no 200 subversives in the State Department? He was right about the danger to our way of life that men like Zero Mostel were just waiting to perpetrate?

Give me a break!
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 18, 2003, 07:16:31 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
MT , don't be so dense, the russians say the rosenburgs WERE spies, but the russians got the bomb design from another spy,(forget his name) the USA was full of russian spies, the russians now admit it.

McCarthy was right.


I memory serves, Paul Fuchs is probably who you were thinking of.  He was a phyisist and part of the Manhattan Project team.  He fed info to the Soviets in real time, so when Truman announced the sucess of the Trinity test to Stalin at the Potsdam conference, Stalin already knew.

And McCarthy was a dangerous idiot. He forgot we defeated Facism a few years before.  Inferred in the constitution is freedom of thought, and he was trying to control peoples thought with fear of government retribution.  If he was looking for unAmerican activity, he should have looked in the mirror.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: funkedup on June 18, 2003, 07:37:44 PM
Klaus Fuchs.  The Brits didn't even have the balls to hang the ****er.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: funkedup on June 18, 2003, 07:53:27 PM
I see I'm not the only one who was pissed off after reading the Globe article:  http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8447
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: ra on June 18, 2003, 09:56:38 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
He was right about what?... The 500  no 300 no 200 subversives in the State Department? He was right about the danger to our way of life that men like Zero Mostel were just waiting to perpetrate?

Give me a break!

He was right that the US government was widely infiltrated by Soviet spies, that the US Communist party was working directly with the Soviets, that the US government, defense plants,  and military were easily penetrated by spies.  Many changes to government and military personnel procedures resulted from his investigations.  He was the first to call an alert to these infiltrations.  

He was also a numbskull who used his anti-communist campaign for pure political self-promotion.  He went after leftists, liberals, and former communists as though they were disloyal.   A more level headed Senator could have pursued Soviet agents without the showboating, and anti-communism wouldn't be synonymous with witch hunts today.



ra
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: JB73 on June 18, 2003, 11:29:37 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
I see I'm not the only one who was pissed off after reading the Globe article:  http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8447
great letter !
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Sikboy on June 19, 2003, 07:50:52 AM
Let me get this right. Three New Yorkers, one of whom is an actress, and a dude from Boston go to suck some long dead traitor spys dick, and its somehow Hollywood's fault?

-Sik
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: midnight Target on June 21, 2003, 12:30:55 PM
Saying McCarthy was right about commie infiltration is like saying that if you spray enough bullets into a crowd you're bound to kill a criminal.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Boroda on June 21, 2003, 12:45:05 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Saying McCarthy was right about commie infiltration is like saying that if you spray enough bullets into a crowd you're bound to kill a criminal.


What I read and see on TV (in American programms) makes me think that the things that happened here and in the US in 1940s-50s look very similar...

:(
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: ra on June 21, 2003, 01:38:33 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Saying McCarthy was right about commie infiltration is like saying that if you spray enough bullets into a crowd you're bound to kill a criminal.

It's more like saying if you spray enough bullets into a crowd of criminals your bound to kill a criminal.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: threedays on June 22, 2003, 09:22:14 AM
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Originally posted by john9001
MT , don't be so dense, the russians say the rosenburgs WERE spies, but the russians got the bomb design from another spy,(forget his name) the USA was full of russian spies, the russians now admit it.

McCarthy was right.


IMAO .. US is full of many spies al around world .... its way cheaper to rob US .. i.w. chinna and Nuke missiles :D


and be careful about past time ;)
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: StSanta on June 22, 2003, 10:56:31 AM
The electric chair is/was a horrible invention. IIRC it was created back when electricity was the new wondrous thing that'd make everything easy (and it did make lots of things easy).

But as a humane, civilized way of execution it has no place. Takes too long and if anyone like I have bothered to read about how it kills (and the time it takes), they'd know that the electric chair is not far from burning at the stake.

A civilized state must have the right to punish, but the electric chair is beyond that. It's cruel vengeance.

The wife shouldda been thrown in jail for not reporting her husband's activities, but evidence, including released old Soviet documents, strongly indicate that she knew about her husbands activities, might have supported them, but refused the Soviets attempt to get actively involved. She might have died because she loved her husband and just wanted to support him. Or she was a commie symphatizer. Doesn't seem like she was a great spy though.

Anyway, am glad you Yanks have found more effective ways of killing people rather than using the electric chair.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Sandman on June 22, 2003, 11:15:54 AM
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Originally posted by StSanta
Anyway, am glad you Yanks have found more effective ways of killing people rather than using the electric chair.


Yeppers... Tomahawks work great. :D
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: Martlet on June 22, 2003, 11:16:14 AM
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Originally posted by StSanta
The electric chair is/was a horrible invention. IIRC it was created back when electricity was the new wondrous thing that'd make everything easy (and it did make lots of things easy).

But as a humane, civilized way of execution it has no place. Takes too long and if anyone like I have bothered to read about how it kills (and the time it takes), they'd know that the electric chair is not far from burning at the stake.

A civilized state must have the right to punish, but the electric chair is beyond that. It's cruel vengeance.

The wife shouldda been thrown in jail for not reporting her husband's activities, but evidence, including released old Soviet documents, strongly indicate that she knew about her husbands activities, might have supported them, but refused the Soviets attempt to get actively involved. She might have died because she loved her husband and just wanted to support him. Or she was a commie symphatizer. Doesn't seem like she was a great spy though.

Anyway, am glad you Yanks have found more effective ways of killing people rather than using the electric chair.


They are being executed, not manicured.   It's usually a fast, clean death.  If you don't want to feel the pain, don't commit the crime.  It was their choice.
Title: Hollyweird Salutes Horrible Traitors
Post by: GrimCO on June 22, 2003, 12:09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
What I read and see on TV (in American programms) makes me think that the things that happened here and in the US in 1940s-50s look very similar...

:(


I agree with you there Boroda. Propaganda ran rampant in both of our countries.

Harry Belefonte and Susan Sarandon supporting the "Rosenberg Children's Fund". LMAO!!!!!  That is so entirely idiotic all I can do is laugh about it. Openly taking a stance in support of traitors of our county... UNBELIEVABLE

I sure wish these Hollywood blowhard love muffines would quit tarnishing the Democratic Party. It's embarrassing and makes me want to vomit.