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Title: Cable Modem
Post by: aknimitz on June 19, 2003, 09:40:02 AM
Quick question ... I am moving to San Antonio, TX and we are setting up our utilities. We are setting up our cable modem service (through RoadRunner) ... and they are trying to tell me that I have to use their modem, that I cannot use my modem, that I bought from RoadRunner in Norman, Ok ... because their modem is special, as it communicates with their system.

I find this terribly difficult to believe, a modem is a modem is a modem isnt it? Should I fight the good fight, or give in and use theirs? Its all about principle baby! I bought that thing for a reason by god!

:) Thanks for any help.

Nim
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Eagler on June 19, 2003, 09:43:07 AM
if they don't register your modem on their system it ain't gonna work no matter how well you fight em :)
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: JB73 on June 19, 2003, 09:50:15 AM
nim .. chk out my post in this thread:

RR SUX (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89188)

good luck man... you'll need it. :rolleyes:
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Rude on June 19, 2003, 10:41:10 AM
Learn to pick your fights my young attorney friend:)

Forget about the cable company and enjoy San Antonio....tell Ammo hi when ya see him too:)

I want to get back to Texas in a bad way
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Eagler on June 19, 2003, 11:40:01 AM
get their modem, probably tweaked for their cable system..

put yours on ebay and recoop some of your cost
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Mickey1992 on June 19, 2003, 01:30:35 PM
I am going from dial-up to Road Runner in 8 days.  What do others use as a firewall?
Title: Re: Cable Modem
Post by: Pfunk on June 19, 2003, 01:56:41 PM
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Originally posted by aknimitz
Quick question ... I am moving to San Antonio, TX and we are setting up our utilities. We are setting up our cable modem service (through RoadRunner) ... and they are trying to tell me that I have to use their modem, that I cannot use my modem, that I bought from RoadRunner in Norman, Ok ... because their modem is special, as it communicates with their system.

I find this terribly difficult to believe, a modem is a modem is a modem isnt it? Should I fight the good fight, or give in and use theirs? Its all about principle baby! I bought that thing for a reason by god!

:) Thanks for any help.

Nim


A cable modem is a cable modem, each modem has its own unique MAC address.  IF you can get ahold of someone who know what they are doing at roadrunner you give them the MAC address from the modem and they plug that into their system which will give your old modem functionality on their network. BUT goodluck getting ahold of someone that knows how to do this correctly.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Eagler on June 19, 2003, 02:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
I am going from dial-up to Road Runner in 8 days.  What do others use as a firewall?


ZoneAlarm
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: AKIron on June 19, 2003, 02:44:12 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
I am going from dial-up to Road Runner in 8 days.  What do others use as a firewall?


Get a hardware firewall, pretty cheap these days, little as $30. Will allow you to connect more than one pc and you don't have the overhead of software firewall running on your pc. Most importantly, you won't have any hackers/crackers/phrackers pounding on your pc nic.

I have and have had good luck with dlink firewalls.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: CptTrips on June 19, 2003, 02:51:11 PM
Sue them into the stone-age.

:D
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: JB73 on June 19, 2003, 02:53:07 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
I am going from dial-up to Road Runner in 8 days.  What do others use as a firewall?
Dont use software firewalls unless you are protecting a server or something.

get a good old router with hardware firewall. prolly $40-$70 depending. the bonus is you can share the connect (my roommate plays xbox online all the time)
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Mickey1992 on June 19, 2003, 03:45:03 PM
(Apologies to aknimitz for the hijack) :cool:

Although I am a computer programmer, I know nothing about computer networking.  How easy is a router/firewall to set up?  Would I set it up after the RR install guys leaves?  

Would anyone recommend this product?

http://www.dlink.com/products/broadband/di604/
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: AKIron on June 19, 2003, 04:04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
(Apologies to aknimitz for the hijack) :cool:

Although I am a computer programmer, I know nothing about computer networking.  How easy is a router/firewall to set up?  Would I set it up after the RR install guys leaves?  

Would anyone recommend this product?

http://www.dlink.com/products/broadband/di604/


I've  had a dl-804 for well over a year now. Works well, I reset it once or twice a month when I start dropping udp in AH.

The dl-604 looks like a good choice, found it at  http://www.pricewatch.com for $39. They are very easy to set up.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Pfunk on June 19, 2003, 04:27:04 PM
Word of advice dont buy the from the lowest priced reseller on pricewatch.com 90% of those resellers charge insane shipping prices and not to mention if something were to go wrong with it good luck returning it.  Newegg has done me right so many times I cant count.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=28&manufactory=1015&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

$48 with free fedex shipping, maximum of 3 days to get to you

It also has a $10 rebate

http://www.dlink.com/rebates/Pdfs/Router_MIR_0603.pdf
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Pfunk on June 19, 2003, 04:30:56 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
http://www.pricewatch.com for $39. They are very easy to set up.


This is after $10 said rebate, so newegg is $1 cheaper and a very reputabile company.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: BEVO on June 19, 2003, 04:32:53 PM
it's because you're an Okie.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Pfunk on June 19, 2003, 04:40:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mickey1992
(Apologies to aknimitz for the hijack) :cool:

  How easy is a router/firewall to set up?  Would I set it up after the RR install guys leaves?


basically you take ethernet cable from modem into router, then ethernet cable from router to PC, go into the router config and it will find everything for you.  Firewall is imbedded in the router no need to configure it a router makes new IP and gateway address.  For instance my netgear is 192.168.0.1 or .0.2, .0.3 etc
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: gatso on June 19, 2003, 06:16:00 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992

Would anyone recommend this product?

http://www.dlink.com/products/broadband/di604/

Thats the model I use for my home network, No problems whatsoever since I bought it.

Gatso
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Mickey1992 on June 19, 2003, 10:24:34 PM
Thank you Gentlemen.  I shall order one straightaway.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Nifty on June 20, 2003, 09:38:03 AM
pricewatch.com has shipping costs on the site to help find the best overall cost if I am not mistaken.

pricegrabber.com is another site that is good for finding resellers.  It also searches for a ton more things than just computer components.  Also has user reviews of various sites.  Drawback is it will not find nearly as many resellers as pricewatch.com will for computer parts.

all that said, newegg.com has always been good to me for getting computer parts.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: JB73 on June 20, 2003, 10:15:48 AM
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Originally posted by Pfunk
basically you take ethernet cable from modem into router, then ethernet cable from router to PC, go into the router config and it will find everything for you.  Firewall is imbedded in the router no need to configure it a router makes new IP and gateway address.  For instance my netgear is 192.168.0.1 or .0.2, .0.3 etc


yep...

so many forget that 192.168.x.x are private IP addresses. NOT sent over the internet. routers do not forward packets for addresses 192.168.x.x through them. so any packet trying to reach your internal "private" network will be bounced back. it's the best "basic" firewall that few hackers can get around. (i ran a firewall for 2 months behind my router and not a single attack was recorded)
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: slimm50 on June 20, 2003, 10:56:30 AM
AKnimitz...WELCOME TO TEXAS:D

I'm an Alabamian transplant, myself, and a dyed-in-the-wool child of the Bear Bryant era, but I got here as fast as I could.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Manedew on June 20, 2003, 02:38:32 PM
Hehe Nimitz ... enjoy the heat .... I was born and rasied in San Antonio ....   Eat some Enchiladas Verdes and go see the Jim Cullum Jazz Band :D (they play nation wide on NPR from time to time)  And enjoy the NBA champs ....

On subject why hareware firewall...most cable modems operate as NAT's and "routers" in thier own way spliting your data apart from the stream.  Security is a good idea with cable as it's traveling on an analog, multiplexed line. (i.e. channel 3[KMOL NBC]  - 72 [sci-fi])  are multiplexed signals; data is split in this same manner.  So you have alot of other people on the same line as you.  People that are at the Mac layer... good reason to have hardware firewall ... hope that explains.  DSL is more secure, speacking in this reguard.

Enjoy San Antonio, Try Panchito's for mexican food :)....Austins a good place to have fun too, about 50 mins away.
Title: Cable Modem
Post by: Martlet on June 20, 2003, 04:41:04 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
ZoneAlarm


Me too.