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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SELECTOR on June 19, 2003, 11:10:08 AM
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so many people have a wish list..
why not a hate list...for planes and stuff that are not worth the programming time..
for example... p40..a6m2..109g6..and so on..
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The answer to that is simple... no la7's :D
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Yak-3.
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no
-B29
-109K4
me410
P61
P47N
He219
just first wave;)
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I need to take a vaccation. I hear Poland is nice this time of year. ;)
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SOme motivations too please ;)
Ramzey for example, why no 410 or 219 or B29? They all saw action, specially the 410. Or you just fear them? :p
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P80, Meteor Mk III, GO 229 and some other what if planes.
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German Jets, I don't like them
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Originally posted by MajorDay
German Jets, I don't like them
Is most people didn't like what they had to go up against to begin with. Jets and other planes existed, and I am sure the pilots that fought them didn't like them much either. ;)
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- Later Bf-109, P-51, P-47, or Spitfire models
- P-39
- P-61
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No Nazi flying saucers. I hate Nazi flying saucers. Well ... except the actual one they built that didn't fly worth a flip. Yeah .... someone should waste their time modeling that one. ;)
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Originally posted by Kevin14
- Later Bf-109, P-51, P-47, or Spitfire models
- P-39
- P-61
Flying a jet in AH would make me very crazy and I shot them down alot :D
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Originally posted by Wilbus
P80, Meteor Mk III, GO 229 and some other what if planes.
Totally agree: only a/c that reached operational units during the war.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
SOme motivations too please ;)
Ramzey for example, why no 410 or 219 or B29? They all saw action, specially the 410. Or you just fear them? :p
mostly waste of time to create , whe we need other more importand planes
B29, cuz usefull only on MA, possibly perked , not many will fly on him like on arado. Faster id like to see B17C-D or B24-25 or any middle/light class RAF bomber /blenhaim, wellington/
me410, i know plane for dweebs like you;) fast heavy armed, poor turner. Lw need bombers not strike/fighter planes.
we just need more early war planes, special VVS and LW bombers, VVS fighters, JPN every class, to create good planset for events. I not care about MA
rmzey
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I think the 109k should be, even at the expense of lets say the france model, keep the g6 i fly it often
but some are right i think by sticking to a/c that were flying combat before the end of the war.
Guse
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109g10 we have is very close to 109k4
if somday we can have another 109 model i vote for late g6 or g14. Of cours for late spit mk9 or mkVII too;)
ramzey
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yes the g10 was similar, but I loved the k4 of airwarrior
not that they had it exactly right maybe.
I just miss the confidence i had in its spriraling split s's and then a loop over rope kill.
Guse
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No units that did not see operational use in WWII.
Originally posted by Wilbus
P80, Meteor Mk III, GO 229 and some other what if planes.
The Meteor Mk III was in service and saw operational use in WWII. Thus it is valid and not a "what if" plane.
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Originally posted by Karnak
No units that did not see operational use in WWII.
The Meteor Mk III was in service and saw operational use in WWII. Thus it is valid and not a "what if" plane.
as i remember only against V1 missles in Defence of England duty due short range, right?
ramzey
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The Meteor III flew ground attack missions as part of the 2TAF over Germnay in '45. Also on 17 April '45 a Meteor III destroyed a Fieseler Storch over Germany after forcing it to ditch and then strafing it (it must count for something surely:D ). Meteor III's also had a tangle with 190's until some spits arrived and opened fire on the Meteors forcing them to break off.
oooo...bring the Meteor mk III to Aces High.:)
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La7
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Ok bring the Meteor Mk III, it'll be minced meat against a 262 anyway :D
Than there are far more planes desirving to be added than I thought, cool :)
Ramzey! The Me410 might very well be a good turner in AH, just look at all other twins like the 110 and Mossie :D
There will be no escaping my Pk 5 50mm
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Originally posted by ramzey
as i remember only against V1 missles in Defence of England duty due short range, right?
ramzey
Meteor III had excellent range (1340 miles) reason they were kept in england was as you said - to defend against V1's.
After the allies over-run all the V1 sites within striking distance of england, the meteors were sent into Belgium in early 1945 as defence against 262's. No 262's were found so the meteor was used as a ground attack a/c.
I would like to see it in AH, it would make a nice alternative to the 262. Although not as fast i would prefer to use it as i hate the 30mm on the 262. 4 hispano's are much better :)
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If they didn't see combat then they shouldn't be in this game.
Ack-Ack
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The Meteor III did see combat, it should be added as an opponent to the Me-262. Let's not forget who invented the damned jet engine, and it wasn't the bloody Germans (or Swedes).
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Yeah we need allied Jet plane. The only reason that Meteor didn't shot any LW planes down that is that in the end of the war LW almost didn't exist due to absolutly supriority of allied air forces. Most of german planes had no fuel to fly. So the number of Mustangs, Thunderbolts and Spitfires was enoght to prevent from LW planes to fly. Only Me262 could get to hunderds B17, B24 and Lancaseters with cover Mustangs, Thunderbolts and Lightings.
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ditto.
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I feel that the only Allied jets that would be appropriate would be the Meteor Mk I and Meteor Mk III. The Meteor Mk I's performance is so poor it would be useless. The Meteor Mk III would be useful though. While not as fast as the 262 it is still faster than any other Allied fighter of WWII.
Add the Meteor Mk III and the He162 and all of the WWII jets will have been included in AH. Add the Ohka "Baka" flying bomb and all WWII piloted rockets will have been included.
I would feel comfortable with all aircraft that "saw combat" or were "in production and deployed" as being valid for a WWII sim.
That said, I would much rather see other aircraft than any more jets or rockets. The Ki.84-I-Ko, I-16-24, Me410B-2 and Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII would all be very fun things to see in my opinion.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Yak-3.
Remove all FW or Me plane they are ugly and their paintjob make me sick :D
you can still have the Fi-156 (perked of course :p)
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All i can say is if they added some of the crap thats in the new BF1942 add on id quit the same day!
have you seen the BF1942 add on? lol it has JET PACK soldiers!? what are those marketing men/programmers thinking?
I like seeing unusual aircraft in AH but not at the expense of 'less spectacular' but more common types. Id rather have seen a sherman than the tiger for instance but hey now we have the tiger im certainly not unhappy to see it.
The same thing applies to any of the rare types mentioned in here.The do 335 was a fantastical looking aircraft its true but i really wouldnt want to see it added when we dont have..er... say, the earliest fw190 or a Wellington or beaufighter or even yes the lowly Brewster! :)
If i had to say an aircraft i dont rellish being added id haveto say the meteor or shooting star or any allied jet but only because id rather AH steer away from the final moments of the war.Im interested, just at the moment mind you, in the early fighters that each country fielded just as hostilities broke out. The performances were pretty close for each country and its an era of aircraft ive never seen in any game.
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Originally posted by Oedipus
"If they didn't see combat then they shouldn't be in this game. "
Isn't that like simulating the 1947 Word Series and being forced to use only the players on the team who actually had a turn at bat?"
Oed
No it's not at all and rather a half-assed attempt at twisting around the facts.
Ack-Ack
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Definately want the Yak-3.
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Ack-Ack,
Define what you mean by "Saw combat" please.
Does the Meteor Mk III make it in your opinion?
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Originally posted by Karnak
Ack-Ack,
Define what you mean by "Saw combat" please.
Does the Meteor Mk III make it in your opinion?
im not ack-ack but....
Yes, it was on mainland europe in january 1945 (after seeing combat vs. V1's) and performed ground attack duties. The only reason it didnt come across air opposition was the fact that the LW was mauled already.
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The Meteor MkIII saw combat, it was delivered to the RAF late 1944 and was operational over Germany in 1945 it's place in the AH planeset is just as valid as any of the current Luftwaffe jets. Not as fast and not quite as powerfully armed (4x20mm) but would be a worthy addition. If the Aliies can't have their jet then remove all jets from AH they unbalance the arena's anyway.
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these are a few i want that flew COMBAT during WW2 not all allies had but we NEEEEED THESE
LOL
Allied
Airspeed Oxford Transport 1940-53
Auster AOP Observation 1944-59
Avro Cadet Trainer 1935-45
Avro Anson Bomber 1937-55
Avro Lancaster Bomber 1943-46
Beechcraft 17 Communications 1941-47
Bell P-39 Airocobra Fighter 1942-43
Brewster Buffalo Fighter 1941-43 17
Bristol Bulldog Fighter 1930-40
Bristol Beaufort Light Bomber 1941-46
Bristol Beaufighter Fighter 1942-57
CAC Boomerang Fighter 1942-46
CAC Wackett Trainer 1941-46
CAC Wirraway Trainer 1939-58
CAC Woomera Bomber 1941-46
Cessna Airmaster Communications 1941-45
Consolidated PBY Catalina Flying Boat 1941-50
Consolidated B-24 Liberator Bomber 1944-48
Curtis Shrike (Helldiver) Dive Bomber 1943-44
De Havilland DH.86 Transport/Ambulance 1939-45
De Havilland Dragon Transport 1940-45
De Havilland Dragon Rapide Transport 1935-44
De Havilland Dragonfly Transport 1942
De Havilland Fox Moth Transport 1941-45
De Havilland Mosquito Fighter-Bomber 1943-53
De Havilland Moth Trainer 1926-46
De Havilland Moth Minor Trainer 1940-45
De Havilland Tiger Moth Trainer 1939-57
Dornier Do 24K Flying Boat 1942-44
Douglas Dolphin Amphibian 1940-45
Douglas A-20 Boston Light Bomber 1942-45
Douglas DC-2 Transport 1940-46
Douglas C-47 Dakota Transport 1943-77
Fairchild 24 Communications 1940-46
Fairey Battle Bomber/Trainer 1940-49
Ford Trimotor Transport 1942 2 217km/h .
Gloster Gladiator None in RAAF service but many flown by Aussies.
Hawker Demon Fighter/Bomber 1935-42
Hawker Hurricane Fighter 1941-46
Lockheed Hudson Bomber 1940-48 2
Lockheed P-38 Lightning Photo Recon 1942-44 3
Lockheed Lodestar Transport 1943-47.
Lockheed Ventura Bomber 1943-46 .
Lockheed Vega Transport 1942-44
Martin PBM Mariner Flying Boat 1943-46
Miles Magister Trainer 1938-40 1
Noorduyn Norseman Transport 1943-46
Northrop Delta Transport 1942-43 1 3
North American B-25 Mitchell Bomber 1943-46.
North American/CAC Mustang Fighter 1945-60
Republic P-43 Lancer Fighter/Recon 1942-43
Ryan STM Trainer 1942-45 34 206km/h 2
Short Sunderland Flying Boat 1939-46
Short Empire Flying Boat 1939-43
Stinson Reliant Communications 1941-45
Supermarine Walrus Amphibian 1935-45
Supermarine Spitfire Fighter 1942-45
Vought-Sikorsky Kingfisher Floatplane 1942-48
Vultee Vengeance Dive Bomber 1942-46
Wackett Gannet Transport 1935-45
Waco YQC-6 Transport 1942-44
Westland Wapiti Bomber 1929-43 44
Lavochkin La.11
Lavochkin La.5
Lavochkin La.7
Lavochkin La.9
Lavochkin LaGG.3
Mikoyen-Gurevich I-250 (MiG.13) #
Mikoyen-Gurevich MiG.1/3
Polikarpov I.15
Polikarpov ITP (MI) #
Polikarpov P.I-180/185 #
Polikarpov TIS (MA) #
Polikarpov.153
Republic P-47 Thunderbolt*
Supermarine Spitfire*
Yakovlev Yak.1
Yakovlev Yak.3
Yakovlev Yak.7
Yakovlev Yak.9
Nyeman Kh.A1-1/5
Petlyakov Pe.2
Petlyakov Pe.8
Polikarpov NB #
Polikarpov R5
Polikarpov RZ (Zet)
Sukhoi Su.2
Tupolev ANT 40 SB
Tupolev ANT 6 TB.3
Tupolev Tu.2
Yakovlev Yak.4
Yermolayev Yer.2
Handley Page HP 52 Hampden*
Ilyushin Il.10
Ilyushin Il.2
Ilyushin Il.4
Ilyushin Il.8 #
Ilyushin Il.DB.3
Ilyushin Il.DB.4 #
Archangelskii Ar 2
Bolkhovitinov S #
Beriev Be.2
Beriev Be.4
Beriev MBR.2
Chetverikov MDR6B #
Shavrov SH.7
Tupolev ANT 27 MDR.4:D :D
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Skuzzy can you make these for me...lol well dont do the trainers we have the c47 for easy prey
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Originally posted by Sarge1
Skuzzy can you make these for me...lol well dont do the trainers we have the c47 for easy prey
5000$ for each and all can be yours
account number u know:D :D :D