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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: funkedup on June 23, 2003, 11:23:59 PM
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Bin Laden and Hussein have both been captured. They are keeping it secret for now, and will publicize both captures (complete with staged operations a la the female POW rescue) at carefully chosen times to maximize poll numbers going into the '04 election.
Also, yes, they did plant WMD in Iraq. But the cameljockeys looted it before it could be "discovered".
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You're more believable than Dubya...
You should run for President. :D
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Well if either of them are "captured" any time before the election, although I have it on good word from some europeans that the election will somehow be cancaled by dicator Bush, I have no doubt that waezel or one his groupies will say just that....
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I'd have a snappy reply, but I have to write Weazel first and see what he wants me to say. :p
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Then by all means, get to it... :D
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This will mean even further delays, while Weazel finds a website from which to cut and paste his reply.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well if either of them are "captured" any time before the election, although I have it on good word from some europeans that the election will somehow be cancaled by dicator Bush, I have no doubt that waezel or one his groupies will say just that....
That'd be counter effective..
It is more effective to become re-elected.
Then you have even more support from the people than at the time of elections.
It's a whole another story how Bush Jr. will become re-elected...
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It's a whole another story how Bush Jr. will become re-elected...
Yes of course, go ahead and tell me this story....
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yes of course, go ahead and tell me this story....
Why... you wouldnt believe anyway, until the history shows otherwise :)
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Go ahead say it right now for the record.....
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I'm interested too Fishu... let's hear it!
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Naa, I'll just laugh afterwards at the debate why Bush Jr. became re-elected.
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Oh I see they stil havenmt written up the new tinfoil hat black helicopter CIA/PNAC/Cheney conspiracy websites so your thoughts arent made up yet....
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it still disgusts me that they are using the victims of 9/11 to kick off their convention.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Oh I see they stil havenmt written up the new tinfoil hat black helicopter CIA/PNAC/Cheney conspiracy websites so your thoughts arent made up yet....
Sorry, but I don't read ANY kind of conspiracy theory websites or such.
I do pretty much make my own conclusions based on my own judgement.
Perhaps you're too afraid to think yourself and go with the masses instead, that just doesnt fit for me, sorry.
You get more respect on your opinions from me than I get from you... says alot.
You're stirring up on anything that doesnt fit in your 'go with the masses' view of point, disregarding objectivity.
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Why wouldn't you want to say why you think he'll get re-elected? The only thing I can think of is fear of being wrong publicly. ;) Why else? Besides, if you're right and you do get to "laugh afterwards", you'll only be able to laugh by yourself and that's no fun is it?
Comawn Fishu, I bet it's interesting. Play nice - share with the group. Or give us a hint. :)
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Youre being chickenchit Fishu, you insinuated some special knowledge about Bush's supposed reelection and now youre too cowardly to come out and say it...
Cmon share your wisdom with us, your spacial individual objective judgement...
So go ahead and tell us....
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Theres nothing SPECIAL about it, not like its a state secret how he could become re-elected, its basic common sense.
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I'm sorry Fishu, but I think youre being dishonest - why make such a big deal out of it with some vague accusation before when now, after being challenged to tell us exactly what you meant, you say it's just common sense...
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You might as well watch the movie wag the dog, or something like that..
Bit extreme about it, but it has the elements anyhow.
(hey, we haven't seen the WMD from Iraq with "made in USA" labels yet.. so we can forget the make up scenes of the movie)
There some clue into what im after.
just not interested to spend an hour writing about the whole story, just to be bashed.
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So the 911 war and Iraq war was fake then, like the war in the movie wag the dog? I mean we allready know the 911 attacks were fake CIA fraud so we can steal caspian sea oil pipe land in Afghanistan, but I thought at least the viscious US mercenary invasion warcrime was real... Guess not now....
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"so we can forget the make up scenes of the movie"
This kind of says against the fake scenes of it, doesnt it?
Grunherz and his objectivity - read contex goes from his eyes directly to communications (fingers / perhaps mouth as well), while the 'understanding of read contex' is bypassed on the way.
and well... the Iraq war was kind of made up war in a way.
It was hardly an actual war.
WMD was pretty far the main reasoning for Bush & Blair puppy to make right for their games in Iraq - but wheres the WMD?
Oh yes... I forgot, the main thing was liberation of the oppressed people!
Wasnt there an Osama priority thing too... hmm.. naw.. must've been just a dream.
Does anyone understand what kind of effect these heavily hyped wars has had on the US citizens?
Daddy Bush has been behind all these great freedom activities, cleaning up the mess after wussy Clinton.
Voters?
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What a wonderful rambling post Fishu! :)
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
it still disgusts me that they are using the victims of 9/11 to kick off their convention.
maybe they should boo the boyscouts instead...
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pu**ies, all of you!
Weazel has been banned from here, he can't reply with drivel to your drivel.
I would vote for Funked though... especially if he uses the "doughnuts" picture as campaign image :D
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Weazel is back, unless of course he provoked HTC into banning him again...
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No! You have it all wrong. GW is giving us some more money (those of us with kids) as a retro active tax credit for 2002 taxes and will be paid, coincidentally, during the 3rd qtr of this year. This money, similar to that which you received after he took office, is meant to buy your vote. You are to be further incented (depending on your income bracket) by the tax break you will get in 2004.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Dickie and his flying monkeys cut swinging deals with Halliburton, Bechtel and the rest of their corporate bufu buddies.
Fear not, the bloated deficit, swelling trade imbalances, weak dollar, functionally bankrupt entitlement programs (medicare, medicaid) and gloomy outlook for social security will all be made right when you take that new found wealth and buy a durable good or two. Don't you dare use that money to pay down on debt (which statistically the majority of us are carrying an unprecedented amount of these days)! That would ruin the whole damn plan and put you in league with Osama, Saddam, the french, and those sneaky little kids who pretend to rely on Aid to Dependent Children.
Before the flames toast my posting, let it be said I am neither liberal or conservative - I'm just worried about my kids future.
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Originally posted by Corwin
Fear not, the bloated deficit, swelling trade imbalances, weak dollar, functionally bankrupt entitlement programs (medicare, medicaid) and gloomy outlook for social security will all be made right when you take that new found wealth and buy a durable good or two
Ahhh, I hate to break it to you, but....
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/recov2003.htm
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Originally posted by Corwin
"entitlement programs"
That's what the problem is and you sped right over it. Well, at least you acknowledged their existence. :D
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Originally posted by funkedup
Also, yes, they did plant WMD in Iraq. But the cameljockeys looted it before it could be "discovered".
Actually, the CIA staged the "looting" in order to cover the sale of those WsMD, the proceeds from which have been used to increase drug imports to our inner cities. This is all part of the operation to switch the CIA drug infrastructure from Columbia to Meixco, where they feel conditions are more favorable at the current time (read, less leftest violence) So long as they stay away from the Southern regions, and stay in bed with Fox, they'll probably pull it off.
Oh damn, I'm late for my LaRouche fundriaser!
:eek:
-Sik
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Thanks for the response Rip. I read the info but although the article notes there has been weak growth recently in GDP there isn't much there to get excited about in terms of longer term prospects. Matter of fact, it cites that personal savings growth is at 0 (albeit up from dis-savings). Admittedly, I've never been a big fan of supply side economics. The fed has driven interest rates through the floor and will cut again today. There isn't much more room to use that tool. An related down side of these rate cuts is rising insurance premiums. The investment portfolios of the major players aren't affording much return these days to offset underwriting losses. Their solution is to increase premiums for this and other reasons. While we are on the subject of rate cuts, the feds decision to cut the capital gains rate on dividends will increase the cost of funding at state and local levels as their tax free status is no longer as attractive comparatively. Their having to offer higher yields (pay more interest to attract investment) comes at a time when most state and local governments are facing huge deficits. Like I said, I'm gloomy.
Syzy, if you are willing to write off social security, Medicare and Medicaid, then we've got some really big issues to address. The need doesn't go away. Perhaps nationalized healthcare is the solution but I'm not eager to go that route. The fact remains that the population curve is working against these programs anyway. Either we fix 'em or trash 'em and then, as good people do, we each assume the financial care of our elderly family members for living and medical expenses. Now for those who don't have folks to take care of them...well, I guess we'll have to rely on charitable contributions?
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
it still disgusts me that they are using the victims of 9/11 to kick off their convention.
Only in your little mind is that intent a reality
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Originally posted by Corwin
Syzy, if you are willing to write off social security, Medicare and Medicaid, then we've got some really big issues to address. The need doesn't go away. Perhaps nationalized healthcare is the solution but I'm not eager to go that route. The fact remains that the population curve is working against these programs anyway. Either we fix 'em or trash 'em and then, as good people do, we each assume the financial care of our elderly family members for living and medical expenses. Now for those who don't have folks to take care of them...well, I guess we'll have to rely on charitable contributions?
I never said anything about writing off anythig. I just said entitlement programs are the problem. So, as far as I can see, you are the one with big issues to address. So, go ahead and tell us all why entitlements are not the problem. By the way, type fast because the debt is rising minute by minute!
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm
:D :D
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No no no!
Bin Laden and Hussein NEVER Existed!
They are simply actors in studio 51, somewhere in Nevada. The entire middle east conflict has been staged by the Jewish owners of the media to put forth their nefarious plan to take over the WORLD!
(I found a picture)
(http://www.intelligamer.com/family/pinky/pinky03.jpg)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
No no no!
(I found a picture)
Picture is suspect as it does not show whether or not it has a Yamuka on!
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Syzy - don't take it personally. These are my concerns and have nothing to do with you. I agree entitlements are a problem but wtf are we going to do about them? My issue is with our pols running huge deficits when we've got stuff we know we can't pay for. Couple that with pandering to the AARP by adding a medicare drug benefit and it's only going to hasten the demise.
I'm frustrated with the way it seems to be going and the fact that giving tax rebates is all the admin is offering in how to make it all go away.
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Originally posted by Rude
Only in your little mind is that intent a reality
don't be an idiot Rude, even Bush's strategists say it's intentional... If they aren't denying it, I dunno why you think you need to.
(http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2003/06/23/tomo/story.jpg)
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I share your concerns. Supposedly tax cuts lead to greater revenue. I am not sure I buy that, though, but smarter people than me do. So, we will wait and see. Meanwhile, the entitlement programs are growing by leaps and bounds. HHS is the biggest chunk of the federal budget, even over DoD, and almost all untaxed entitlement program giveaways. And that doens't even count social security which is "off budget", which supposedly mean it has a separate funding source, except that the fudning source for the federal budget and the SSA is the same: working americans paying taxes of some sort.
http://www.federalbudget.com/
I just see us repeating a cycle, ie. the budget problems of the early/mid 1970s took the concerted efforts of both parties as they came to and left power, and even with those efforts starting in earnest with Reagan, didn't get straightened out until the 1990s. So, it seems we're looking at another 20 year effort and things are going to get worse for a significant while, before they get better.