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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Syzygyone on June 25, 2003, 08:51:06 AM
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On June 25, 1876, Lt. Col. George A. Custer and his 7th Cavalry were wiped out by Sioux and Cheyenne Indians in the Battle of Little Big Horn in Montana.
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/20030625.html
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"Civil War Hero lets ego get the better of him"
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"Custer died for our sins"
Anyone make the reinactment this year?
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Originally posted by MrBill
"Custer died for our sins"
Anyone make the reinactment this year?
Er what sins were those?
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lol Custer the Christ!
I hope that was a joke.
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the 7th wasn't "wiped out".
only 200 men of the 7th Cavalry were killed , 2/3rds of the 7th under command of Reno and Benteen dug in on a ridge and held off the indians untill the next day when the rest of the army showed up.
custer was suposed to be a scouting/blocking force to keep the indians from retreating into the black hills, but as usual custer did not follow orders and attacked the indians without support of the rest of the army.
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Originally posted by Syzygyone
Er what sins were those?
ah ye young whipersnappers, ;)
That was a quite popular bumper sticker in the nations at the 100th anniversery reinactment in 1976.
I had the good fortune to play one of Gauls bowmen.
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Originally posted by john9001
the 7th wasn't "wiped out".
only 200 men of the 7th Cavalry were killed , 2/3rds of the 7th under command of Reno and Benteen dug in on a ridge and held off the indians untill the next day when the rest of the army showed up.
custer was suposed to be a scouting/blocking force to keep the indians from retreating into the black hills, but as usual custer did not follow orders and attacked the indians without support of the rest of the army.
So you are saying the NYT was fabricating stories and sensationalizng news even back then! Hmmmmm......I wonder if Jason Blairs great great great grandfather worked there then?:D
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Reno was a drunk!
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:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Gauls. Reno? Custer?
I'm totally lost!
But what's new, eh?
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Originally posted by Syzygyone
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Gauls. Reno? Custer?
I'm totally lost!
But what's new, eh?
Short, sweet, not much detail, 2 minute synopsis.
http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/western_places/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand.html
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Interesting tidbit about US cartridges from the Indian Wars. They were made of a low quality brass that would become soft easily. The rifle they used was called the "Trapdoor Springfield" carbine. It was operated by opening a hinged top and a small bar would catch on the rim of the .45-70 casing and eject it.
(http://www.frontieramericana.com/images/M1817e.jpg)
However, as the chamber would get hot from firing, the cartridge would become soft. Eventually, the ejector would pull the rim off the casing, leaving the casing in the chamber and making the rifle useless. This was a big problem where the troopers were forced to shoot for extended times and is thought to have contributed to Custer's defeat.
Troopers were told to shoot til their Springfields failed, fire 5 shots from their revolvers at the Indians and save the sixth for themselves. One story from the Battle of Little BigHorn is that Custer and his XO were found facing each other with one bullet hole in their forehead. Meaning that they shot each other rather than fall into the Indians' hand.
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Meanwhile, 120 years or so later, Reno kills Americans at Ruby Ridge...coincidence?
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Originally posted by MrBill
Short, sweet, not much detail, 2 minute synopsis.
http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/western_places/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand/little_big_horn_custers_last_stand.html
Excellent! Thank You, Sir! Now I am reoriented!
Major Reno, not Janet
Gall not Gaul.
There!
:D
But it seems Rip is now the confused one! Everyone knows Reno didn't use arrows at Waco!
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LOL! I was speaking of Ruby Ridge. ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LOL! I was speaking of Ruby Ridge. ;)
Reno didn't use arrows there either! High Powered rifle with scope! Shell casings weren't soft brass either!
Cumon man, get with the times!:D
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Custer and his XO were found facing each other with one bullet hole in their forehead. Meaning that they shot each other rather than fall into the Indians' hand.
Was this a , "Ok, Ill shoot you in the forehead, then you shoot me" type of thing?!
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yes well the days of the duelist and their skills have been long forgoten or lost. Nowadays its more like, sucka Im gona drive by your house and mac10 your *ss.
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or hey rabib can make a bomb, lets go and ....
:o :o :o :o :o
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Originally posted by Creamo
Custer and his XO were found facing each other with one bullet hole in their forehead. Meaning that they shot each other rather than fall into the Indians' hand.
Was this a , "Ok, Ill shoot you in the forehead, then you shoot me" type of thing?!
Now this isn't a historical fact, but some believe they agreed to shoot each other at the same time. I guess they didn't want to off themselves, nor did they want to surrender to the Indians.
I found this:
His body was found in tact, with just the single gun shot to the head. This seemed to signify that he shot himself before he could be killed by the Indians. Indians generally do not scalp or touch the body of one who has committed suicide.
Here: http://members.aol.com/Gibson0817/custer.htm
and this:
Custer was not killed by arrows. According to Lieutenant Godfrey, "He had been shot in the left temple and left breast. "There were no powder marks or signs of mutilation." This emphasis on the lack of powder burns and mutilation was meant to dispel rumors that Custer had committed suicide and had been horribly mangled by the Indians.
http://www.friendslittlebighorn.com/Smithsonian%20Coverage.htm
So who knows?
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What really happened, they most likely shot themselves in the head. Or the Indians shot them and staged it to look like they shot each other but why would they do that.