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Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Stegahorse on June 25, 2003, 02:04:48 PM

The last 'dogfight' of WWII took place in April 1945, when an unarmed Piper Cub spotter plane of the 5Th Armored Division met up with an unarmed Fieseler Storch spotter plane. The two American crewmen fired their Colt .45's at the German plane and forced it down. The Piper crew then landed and took the Germans prisoner. It was the only German plane to be shot down with a handgun in WWII.
http://www.geocities.com/limeydvr/facts3.htm

It seems that Prop dogfighting ended as it a had began,
in Europe between two spotter planes with handguns.
LOLOLOLOL

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 25, 2003, 02:07:25 PM

Good read.  Thanks.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Hawklore on June 25, 2003, 02:29:33 PM

Great Read,Thanks.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: ccvi on June 25, 2003, 03:13:10 PM

"The U.S. Navy had a ship in the South Pacific whose sole purpose was to make ice cream! It could produce 5,000 gallons of ice cream an hour."

Hitech, please model this one!
:D

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Jackal1 on June 25, 2003, 04:52:10 PM

You scream and I`ll scream. We`ll all scream for ice cream.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: udet on June 25, 2003, 04:59:47 PM

u mean the last dogfight in the ETO.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Gixer on June 25, 2003, 07:02:50 PM

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Originally posted by ccvi
"The U.S. Navy had a ship in the South Pacific whose sole purpose was to make ice cream! It could produce 5,000 gallons of ice cream an hour."

Hitech, please model this one!
:D

LOL only the Americans would have a ship for that purpose.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Arlo on June 25, 2003, 07:10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Gixer
LOL only the Americans would have a ship for that purpose.

Only the Americans could have a ship for that purpose. When the enemy hears about it, they laugh, they deny, then a letter home from a POW written on an ice cream container lid ... and ... well ... demoralizin' as hell. :D

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Gixer on June 25, 2003, 07:29:57 PM

LMAO Very true.   :D

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Arlo on June 25, 2003, 07:41:02 PM

Ever see the movie "Mr. Roberts"? They were stuck on a cargo ship on the "rear lines" of the Pacific front and were miserable as hell. This has me wonderin' what kind of spin-off spoof a movie about serving on the "ice cream ship" would be like. Damn my rather bizarre imagination and it's own innate sense of irony. As if the line preceeding this one actually made sense. :D

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Blue Mako on June 25, 2003, 10:11:31 PM

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Originally posted by ccvi
"The U.S. Navy had a ship in the South Pacific whose sole purpose was to make ice cream! It could produce 5,000 gallons of ice cream an hour."

Imagine the surprise of a U-boat captain on torpedoing this ship, expecting a large column of fire and a large "kaboom!", instead getting a dull "Floop!" as the torp explodes, sending fountains of icecream high into the air.

Even crueller would be the disappointment of the sharks circling the sinking wreck, only to find tubs of Cookies-and-Cream floundering in the water... ;)

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Engine on June 26, 2003, 02:10:44 AM

What an embarassing story that must make for the grandkids.

'Granddad, what'd you do in the war?'
'Ummm... Navy....'
'Doing what, Granddad?'
'Ummmm... well... making ice cream on a ship'

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: ccvi on June 26, 2003, 01:43:48 PM

At least it explains why the US had soooo many ships in total.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Wilfrid on June 26, 2003, 01:58:58 PM

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The British Second Army had the greatest representation of foreign units of all allied armies. It included Irish, Scottish, Polish, Czech, Belgian, Dutch, U.S. and British units.

Er, what?

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Gloves on June 26, 2003, 02:03:50 PM

I say PERK THE PIPER!!!

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Stegahorse on June 26, 2003, 05:01:21 PM

Main Entry: dog·fight
Pronunciation: 'dog-"fIt
Function: noun
Date: 1656
1 : a fight between dogs; broadly : a fiercely disputed contest
2 : a fight between two or more fighter planes usually at close quarters
- dogfight intransitive verb


Yes, there were kills by allied pilots in the Pacific after April 1945, But where they DOGFIGHTS?

Given the above definition, shooting down a kamakazee pilot does not constitute a dogfight. Kamakazee did not try to shoot down fighters as went straight to their target.

I am trying to find the record of the Cub win, I imagine that it will be in the Artillery section of the Army. I sounds to me though that the Storch may have returned fire at the least.

Thus constituting the last dogfight of WWII.

:D :D

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Arlo on June 26, 2003, 05:25:15 PM

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Originally posted by ccvi
At least it explains why the US had soooo many ships in total.

USS Dannon .... yogurt tender.

USS Lollypop .... hard candy escort.

USS Snackpack .... fast pudding frigate.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Arlo on June 26, 2003, 05:27:24 PM

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Originally posted by Stegahorse

Thus constituting the last dogfight of WWII.

:D :D

If the European theater of war hadn't ended before the Pacific one, you'd probably be right. ;)

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Stegahorse on June 26, 2003, 05:47:05 PM

This much I've found on 5th Armored Division(Not artillery:rolleyes: )

The Division reached the banks of the Elbe at Tangermunde, 12 April-45 miles from Berlin. On 16 April, the 5th moved to Klotze to wipe out the Von Clausewitz Panzer Division and again drove to the Elbe, this time in the vicinity of Dannenberg. The Division mopped up in the 9th Army sector until VE-day.


BTW keyword DOGFIGHT

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Arlo on June 26, 2003, 05:53:47 PM

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Originally posted by Stegahorse


BTW keyword DOGFIGHT

BTW keyword WWII. *chuckle* ;)

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Octavius on June 26, 2003, 06:47:52 PM

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Originally posted by Arlo
USS Snackpack .... fast pudding frigate.

LMAO!!! :D

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: mia389 on June 27, 2003, 02:46:56 PM

I heard when some ships would pick up guys that fell into the ocean and hand them back to the origonail ship the guy came from the ship would get more icecream with returning a guy hehe. Think I seen this discovery

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Arlo on June 27, 2003, 05:10:54 PM

Ice cream exchange for returning a downed pilot to a flat top ... yes.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: rod367th on June 27, 2003, 05:30:14 PM

some facts very wrong Russian woman had many aces some with 20 or more kills

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Bluedog on June 27, 2003, 06:19:15 PM

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Originally posted by Stegahorse
Main Entry: dog·fight
Pronunciation: 'dog-"fIt
Function: noun
Date: 1656
1 : a fight between dogs; broadly : a fiercely disputed contest
2 : a fight between two or more fighter planes usually at close quarters
- dogfight intransitive verb


Yes, there were kills by allied pilots in the Pacific after April 1945, But where they DOGFIGHTS?

Given the above definition, shooting down a kamakazee pilot does not constitute a dogfight. Kamakazee did not try to shoot down fighters as went straight to their target.

I am trying to find the record of the Cub win, I imagine that it will be in the Artillery section of the Army. I sounds to me though that the Storch may have returned fire at the least.

Thus constituting the last dogfight of WWII.

:D :D

Do ya reckon all those F6F, P51 etc drivers over the Japanese Home Islands only ran into kamikazes?  I think not, betya a years pay at least SOME of them put up one hell of a fight.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: ccvi on June 28, 2003, 01:43:06 PM

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Originally posted by rod367th
some facts very wrong Russian woman had many aces some with 20 or more kills

Women can sustain higher Gs than men. They're overmodeled.

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Blue Mako on June 29, 2003, 10:06:37 PM

But it's darn hard to apply make-up and shoot at the same time, just ask one of the FDB's...  ;)

Title: For the Fighter Jocks of Aces High
Post by: Furious on June 29, 2003, 10:28:16 PM

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Originally posted by Blue Mako
But it's darn hard to apply make-up and shoot at the same time, just ask one of the FDB's...  ;)

No it's not.