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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hazed- on June 25, 2003, 10:41:26 PM
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HTC could you please add a new stat to the scoring pages.
It will be a percentage value linked to various altitudes flown and for how much time is spent by that player at (around)the heights listed with total time spend flying.
e.g.:
Mrfurball:
5k......54%
10k.....25%
20k......18%
25k+.....03%
'Altdweeb#1'
5k....10%
10k....5%
20k....10%
25k+...75%
That way we could see who the alt dweebs are :D
HTC Please do it for us!!:)
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Speed is Life
Energy is Speed
Altitude is Energy
Altitude is Life
Can't understand these dweebs that "fly to live." What are they thinking?
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They're thinking: Let's roleplay.
And enjoying it.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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5K or under... 90%
10k down to 5K.....10%
why fly any higher? No matter how high you go someone even more timid or patient than you will be higher.
You still have to come down if you want to kill me. and if you see me it will be in a crowd so you can't just B&Z me to death.
If you fly up there you will not see any good fights... you will not get any better.. you will maintain a newbie/rusty player status.
you will be forced to fly certain planes and certain ways.
lazs
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ya know what.....I'm gonna take lazs up on that statement. From now on I'm gonna try to stay around 5k with 10k as my ceiling if anyone sees me above please shout on Ch.1.
I think lazs has a point about getting better...K/D be DAMNED!!!!
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Originally posted by Swoop
They're thinking: Let's roleplay.
And enjoying it.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Sorry... guess I didn't convey sarcasm sufficiently. :)
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what makes you think furballers and low alt guys don't fly to live? I agree that it is harder to maintain a high K/D while staying where the action is but that makes it all the better.
lazs
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I agree Hazed, but HT won't do this....we can't even enjoy the server broadcasting our kills publicly for fear of humiliation of the downed pilot.
It's a PC world we live in:)
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Its hard to stay below 10k on BigIsles, unless there's a carrier involved. The bases are so far apart that its almost guaranteed that the first plane you see will be at 15k or more.
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gofaster.... I may have made that point myuself once or twice...
Ya know, if we had the fields a little closer I bet it would be a lot more fun in the ma..... whatcha think?
lazs
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Originally posted by Rude
It's a PC world we live in:)
nice double meaning there :)
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not to nitpick, Rude. But I think it has a lot more to do with removing system spam from the text buffer. The buffer moves pretty fast in the MA now, even with only 2+ kills being landed showing up. Can you imagine how fast it'd be if it was back to the old instant kill public messages for everyone? :)
Lazs is mostly right in this case though. Fighting in the fur hones your SA and your ACM. It makes you better. I know I can definitely last longer in those 3 v 1's and worse I find myself in while playing in the CT now. That all comes from furballing in the MA. If you want to learn the maximum you can get out of your plane, then you need to take it low into the furballs. You might get beat the hell out of often, but when you take that SA and knowledge of your plane that you learned in the fur up to a 1 v 1 at alt, you'll be far more dangerous to that enemy.
Furballing has made me a better virtual pilot, so I'm now just an average stick instead of a crappy one. :)
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I don't get......... Why do you care how others fly? Could careless how people fly, ho,. run away, la7, spit , niki, jet,suicide cv, you name it. only ones i care about are friends I'll help and try to save.
When I hear
Run away dweeb thats all u got=== I have turn plane you don't
La7 dweeb====== I hate when others fly plane i fly and kill me..
( this one is my favorite, I'll go look at whinners stats and sure enough he flys niki or la7)
Get out of jet and i'll kill you=====I don't have perks for jet
bomber dweeb=== I just died coming up bombers 6
Cheater=== good pilot who just killed me easy
(well I did see real cheat once but he told everyone he was cheating) remember Cloak LOL
Numbers you can only fly with numbers====== whinner cause all sides have numbers depending on time of day and what day.......................... .............
Have fun fly how you want. ITS A GAME
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In the beginning HT created the game, the AH players were all equal and they had all the same rights, though paying 15$.
Then someone came to say "hey HT we are furballers, we fly so low, we are so good, we love ACM ,....then......we are more equal than the other, and so on....
HT in his infinite patience tried to not give ear to them, so they claimed some more " hey HT lets do prescription lists against those nasty boom&zoomer and cherrypickers and energymongers they are a shame for all the comunity"
Still patiently HT tried to not be tempted by these rebels
But they tried the last chance "please HT please do something ,they are ruining all the game, WE are the right one , we know how to fly, we are the ACM masters, the HO druids.
Please if you dont want to ban them all at least make them pay something like 30$.....
HT was watching from the high and his mouth opened in a foxy big grin......
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Furballing is only good practice for ..furballing.Its not good practice of Boom and zoom or high alt energy fighting or for true wingman tactics (some do but its not that common) at least not often,
The fact is all your furballing knowledge wont help you if your in a scenario and ordered to perform a different task.
Boom and zoom flying is good practice for booming and zooming and furballing is good pracice for furballing.It does I think teach yu to invent tricks which can be usefull or to learn to disengage accurately but then you learn these when you learn to fly BnZ.
Robert shaw the cellebrated author of 'fighter combat tactics and maneuvering' says in his book that the boom and zoom with pitch back requires as much skill as the turn and burn type.He explains that thepilot often has to fly his aircraft whilst looking back over his shoulder,very disorientating and his eyes are therefore not able to scan cockpit instruments as easily as the pilot using his forward hemisphere. It makes sense.Apparently many a pilot has extending right into the ground whilst flying and looking behind.
Both types of fighting require skill and to deny it is a bit pathetic.It happens that some of us have styles and habits and we tend to favour one way of fighting or the other.
You know what can really make things a bit better ? play AH in both modes.Do a bit of everything and things dont get as boring.If you are bored then take an aircraft which is totally different and learn to fly both ways(furballing or strat) take a hurriC and furball, or a p47 and try it as a high alt fighter.
or just join one of my crazy missions :) the 202 one today was fantastic :)
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hazed I dissagree... if you get good in the furball you can pick up the limited skills need to B&Z very quickly if you don't allready have em but.... if you only know B&Z.... you got a long hard row to get good at the fur..
In the fur you are flying the entire time looking up or back and... you are close to the ground and colose to collision. At 25K, taking your eyes off wht is in front of you for an hour or two is no big deal.
lazs
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well i disagree. Pesonally I find its a lot easier to furball down low in say a spitfire or hurricane and maintain a high kill rate than it is to stay high and maintain anywhere near the same amount of kills and survive.This is especially so if Im outnumbered.Laz its no less skillfull for a player who has to fight a large number of enemy at alt than at 5k. If they are all trying to get you it can produce some fantastic fights in either situation.Some of my best remembered ones are when Im at 18k to 20k in a 190d9 and stumbling onto a squadron all flying P51d's...LOWER than me!. Trying to keep them all turning and below you, attacking and using your energy to stay above them. This to me is just as much fun as any low altitude furball (and ive had some great furballs too).I learn more about the SUBTLE use of energy in those types of engagements than in a hard turning hurricane vs nik fight where its more about tricking your oponent or using moments where you know you are out of their line of sight etc.
Both require skill. Its just a different type of skill and shock horror a different kind of fun :). I enjoy it sometimes when i catch a lower group and manage to kill 3 or 4.I enjoy it when against all odds i end up surviving in a hurricane C with 3 or 4 kills fighting on the floor. Both are just as much fun as the other...I do realise though that laz, your after an arena where both types are encouraged and I have to admit theres never been a map where bases are close like you want but i dont agree when you seem to want whole areas of the game removed like bombers etc. or now its bnz flyers? come on! I like bnz. I like furballing. I dont think id rate a good furballer in AH as any worse or better than a good Bnz flyer.Both methods when witnessed being done properly are impressive.
yes simple bnz is easy but that is not how all fly it.you can make turn and burn sound simple if you describe it as 'turn inside the enemy and shoot'.It ignores all those possible situations that occour.Ive had some hard and tricky high alt fights that were just as taxing on my SA as a heavy furball was.Im missing where you think they are different or one is harder than the other.Its just different stuff.Sure some moves can be applied to the other but thats just flying a plane and shooting down planes! :) its all the same thing
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Hazed,
That would be an indicator of sorts, but...
What about fans of Russian (non-La-7) aircraft? They're going to be low because that is where they are competitive.
The same goes for Japanese aircraft.
Some British aircraft like the Hurricanes, Spitfires I and V and Mosquito are also low altitude aircraft.
The Mosquito peaks in speed at 13,000ft and that is where I normally level off. Sometimes I go higher if I have too, but the Mossie is a dog up there. My normal peak alt is 13k and I fight down from there, not because I dislike high altitude, but becase my chosen aircraft is a low alt tuned kite.
You're suggested numbers don't tell you what a given pilot's style is.