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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lazs2 on June 26, 2003, 04:15:30 PM
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back in Aw dos I was brand new at this with some stick that didn't even have a hat... Man did I get my butt shot up a lot... It seemed so unfair! I mean, I was darn good at flight sims. I could kill everyone in aces over the pacific even on the hard settings!
Guess I went about it all wrong but I jumped into every fight I could find and reveled in my first earned online kill... The more I got killed the more determined I was to learn how to kill.. seemed everyone was that way. no shortage of agressive guys!
It never occured to me that I should look for ways to hide from fights. That i should just fly with as many countrymen as possible and play it as safe as I could hoping that I might get a scrap or two that the good players missed.... maybe put enough lead into a wingless con to get the credit for the kill.... maybe a plane would take off from the vultched runway just as I was lined up on him.
so why are things different now? why the "missuns" and timidity? Is it because that other sim shut down and former hot shots don't want to be percieved as newbies? Is it the "missun planner".?? is it the huge maps that encourage the late war no action planes? The disparity of planes in the arena?
just curious.
heck.... there are some bright spots... even hubert... hubert upped in a furball so manyu times that I actually started to kinda admire the guy... It certainly couldn't have been easy to have me messing with him as he was learning (some have claimed that I am insensitive). He took it well and he tried hard and he was getting better
lazs
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I don't call that "furballing". I call that "trying to push the base defenders back over their own field so we can up some jabos and PORK THE FUEL" mwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa....
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and, of course, destroy their tool sheds...I hate toolsheds, and think they should all be blown to bits
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I think the entire problem is due to lack of leadership...I feel, well, kinda lost and without hope for direction.
40dog....come save us from ourselves:)
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Originally posted by lazs2
so what has changed?
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just curious.
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lazs
Well,
I did change my underwear. :p
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Some of us are not included in the Air Tasking Order of the maw's... Nothing to be envious about. ;) Just shoot the little P's their flaming goon drops. Somehow you know it hurts... :D
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Originally posted by lazs2
so why are things different now?... Is it because that other sim shut down and former hot shots don't want to be percieved as newbies?
What I've found out is that most of the limp wristed timid pilots in AH were already here long before that "other" sim went belly up and the exodus that soon followed. So trying to blame that other sim is just as moronic as those that fly like timid little mice.
If you want to stop the timid flyers, why don't you try to take the time and teach some how to fly? It beats whining about it.
Of course the best solution would to competely over-haul the existing training system with less reliance on community volunteers (i.e. the training program where you get $10 bucks to help) since that's shown not to be all that effective as a main training tool. Rather use the volunteer training program as a supplement to an organize, formal training program like the ones in Air Warrior and Warbirds.
As the song goes, Free your mind and your bellybutton will soon follow.
Ack-Ack
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This is a personal , but I'll try to explain whats for me.
I dont like only Furballs.
I like all whats in the flight simulation; I like to roll on the runway, I enjoy the feeling of upping, I like to cruise and to scout in search of the enmy.
I like the strategic aspect, so I can fly waiting bombers to come to my base or I like to defend my base and go jaboing others.
Sometimes I fly to discover limits of my plane and management of engine (If only engine had more management).
So for me its not only a fact of "go and turn and fire and kill"
I enjoy a well conducted Noe mission; sometimes I like to think like a real pilot that one of my jobs is to come home safely and not to jump on any plane I see; maybe some others are giving a value to "virtual death" and not for a silly fear to be a dweeb,nor for the K/D , its only a mind status, a mission is complete only when you return home safely; I like to choose the moment to fight, when my enemy can play at my rules; I run, why not, when there is nothing other to do, and when I feel its right for me.
That is "my style" and I don't search others approvation.
There are hundreds of ways and reasons why I fly that way in that moment, and if someone dont like them, I'm sorry, but this is a free ride.
I meet many players that dont play the way I'd like.....but, what can I do.....
I think that when you feel bored from what other players are doing and you repeatedly whine about it, maybe its the time for you to change your way of flying; maybe trying something new, or maybe is time for you to take a breath, and don't think its all others fault.
My 2 cents,with respect
:)
BTW someone just called me sissy so dont waste your time:D
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I started playin AW in 1990 and played until about a year before it closed its doors. The behavior you are complaining about was around in AW when I started and all the way through. It was here when I started a couple of years ago and it is still here now. Absolutely nothing new about it.
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Heck I really felt like a noob last night. I got my 6 handed to me probably 15 times between Nomde, Frenchy and LftF00T while we all flew and fought between 203 and 194. I got no kills but I sure did learn a good bit about what I needed to work on to get back in the groove in this game.
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Originally posted by Reschke
Heck I really felt like a noob last night. I got my 6 handed to me probably 15 times between Nomde, Frenchy and LftF00T while we all flew and fought between 203 and 194. I got no kills but I sure did learn a good bit about what I needed to work on to get back in the groove in this game.
When you see any of the 56th flying together, you know you're in for a long night but get the alone and they're still a pain in the ass.
Ack-Ack
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Everything changed except u.
:)
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Ok this is getting old. I'm gonna do something I never thought possible, it's almost embarrasing!
RUDE!!... WHERE'S YOUR WHINE OF THE WEEK THREAD???
The repetitive nature of this subject and it's author truly deserve recognition.
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How ever a guy enjoys AH is his/her business. If you wanna fly around a friendly base with a zillion other guys hoping for the odd kill thats what u pay your 15 bucks for.
Personally, that would bore be to tears. I much prefer to go find my own fight. I love to go go to an airfield where lots of cons are upping and have good fight there. As a general rule, if the friendly bar is bigger than the enemy one, i dont wanna know.
Occassionally i come across a 1v1 and just sit above it and watch. Unless the firendly is at a severe disadvantage from the start. Sometimes a friendly starting with an advantage blows it and then cries cause I didnt help him. You started the fight buddy:) He'd still be crying if I took *his* kill away.
Sometimes you see 20 or 30 friendlies milling around a friendly airfield. I often think maybe they're chatting, telling jokes, beechin? I dunno what they're doin, but they aint rackin up kills thats fer sure.
Still its good that the 'flocking' mentality ias not just confined to bish. Otherwise life would be very dull for a cherrypickin dweeb like me:D
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easy now.... this wasn't meant to be a flame of an entire sim (former sim) community.. I was just throwing out some possible reasons... come up with your own... but why all of a sudden are more guys avoiding anything that resembles combat?
It can't be that the "strat" is so facinating and complex or that the "winning the war" is so rewarding.... heck.. the strat is way less complex than checkers... winning the war lets you reset the map and start all over.
I agree with gremlin... it's your bucks but.... milling around doing nothing or flying around at 25K with maybe 1 engagement per hour... Maybe we have a lot of new guys whose dr said to stay away from excietmen?
I think it is a combination with fields too far apart as one of the main causes..
hubert said "I don't call that "furballing". I call that "trying to push the base defenders back over their own field so we can up some jabos and PORK THE FUEL" mwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa.... "
ya know... that is fine... what was happening there was what I want... it was in effect close fields... a cv. Hubert thought that he was beating us/me back so that we wouldn't kill his cv and so that he could capture/pork our base... we simply were enjoying the furball that resulted..
see.... both strat sissies and noble furballers were co-existing. Why? closer fields.... furballers don't care if the field falls if there is another one to fight from... strat guys think that the furballers are participating.
everyone is happy (so long as nobody sinks the cv that is)... and that is the crux of the matter... the only fields that this symbiotic relationship works at are ..... carriers... the other fields are the same ol "long flight to nowhere" "hide under your bunk untill you have a real steamroller worth of attack force to kill toolsheds" "fly at 25k and hope to find someone who is AFK and then run like hell"
lazs
Public relations Officer for the BK's
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Guess I went about it all wrong but I jumped into every fight I could find and reveled in my first earned online kill... The more I got killed the more determined I was to learn how to kill.. seemed everyone was that way. no shortage of agressive guys!
LOL Lazs. It took me about a year to get a positive k/d when I started AW in 1993. I could do pretty well in 1v1 but just didn't have my SA down. It was pretty harsh but I was determined not to suck, eventually :) I still get in too many fights I know I should avoid, but at least I can win a few more of them today.
A2A was about all SVGA AW was about. Taking the handful of capturable central bases was a mechanism to get closer, more intense furballs. There were numerous tutorials, and virtually none focused on A2G. It was all, how to fight in the FW, etc. (I believe Twist authored many, and then there were the transcripts from various Shaw online chats). I still have a folder of printouts that I downloaded and studied to improve my skills. I even joined Genie just to get access to some older files, since I already played cheaper on Delphi/Cris net. Bought Shaw, etc.
I noticed the change when Gamestorm came on the scene. I flew the first "Bigweek" mission with about three CTDs, then one or two beta flights in the FR ma, then took a year off. When I came back something really odd had happened.
The small neutral/center maps (that brought the action together)were gone, replaced by the Big Pork Pac map. A shocker was my first sortie, where I followed a p-51 across two sectors, low on his 6 by about 2K, waiting for him to engage. In the old AW this would have been a foregone conclusion, but not here. He eventually was killed by ack trying to divebomb (milkrun) a strategically useless, undefended base in a completely dead sector. It was so out of place, I e-mailed a friend and former AW player (yyrkoon) who also hadn't made the move about it.
I soon noticed AW had evolved to big groups of Az, Bz and Cz far away from each other on the big map, taking bases with 5+ v 1 odds. The few defenders that wanted a fight quickly got tired of the gangbang, and flying two extra sectors because of porked fuel. I think the smaller maps, with limited capturable targets that forced people to fight in the same area, was what had changed in the game followed by human nature. And to be fair, with numbers in the hundreds instead of the tens, the central model was less viable from a technology standpoint.
This is not an easy game in which to become adequately successful where ACM is concerned. There is three-dimensional battle space, physics, required knowledge (aircraft performance, tactics, weapons, bullet drop, deflection, etc.), SA... did i mention SA? A large map makes it easier to avoid having to learn ACM, allowing people to "succeed" in a gameplay involving overwhelming numbers and "toolsheds." If you're on the short end of the stick, then go somewhere else and be the ganger. It's easy enough, just look for the big green bar with the small red bar, I'm sure you'll see one.
For those of us who came of age on AW DOS, though, it's a dramatically different reality. We have experienced our version of fun, which involves fighting other people who actually want to fight in an A2A environment. Not necessarily 1v1 as in a dueling arena, but just a willingness to roll the dice and say what the hell instead of, "What if I lose!" For some like myself, it's not even about strat vs furball. If the strat was more complex (actual strat vs. jabo steamroller) it might actually be interesting. Hell, I even gooned and bombed in the AW DOS days when the goal was furball, because the strat helped facilitate that goal.
I can thank the big pork in AW for one thing -- it brought me here after 8 years of loyalty even before EA pulled the plug. By the same token, I hope the situation in AH doesn't get as bad as it got in AW, or else I'll be looking elsewhere once again.
Charon
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thanks charon... I don't know anything about AW. I flew it is dos days. There were a couple of people who wouldn't engage unless they had a percieved advantage but mostly.... everyone was agressive.
WB went wussie during allied vs axis... you knew exactly what your enemy could and would do... worse... if he was LW he could only do a couple of things... everyone started avoiding each other and making excusses for it.
Here we suddenly have big maps with 2 sectors between fields and a huge influx of players and now... people are avoiding each other and making excusses for their timid behavior (i could be really good in a furball if I chose but it is too easy and beneath me)
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Whereas I concurr with a lot of what Laz and Charon are saying, I do also strongly beleive in not entering a fight you cant win. What I do not like to see is guys attacking with an advantage blowing it and running. My ethos is if I start a fight with you, either you or i *will die. If im seriously outnumered say more than (3 or 4/1) I simply go elsewhere, thats not to say i will run, I just dont pick fights I cant win. Particularly on big maps, there really is no point in flying two sectors just to get ganged. Move on to somehwhere where you can give someguys a real fight and not give the lemmings a target for 6 of em to chase!
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What happened?
The game went away from being about air combat. Pretty simple if you stop and think about it.
High fidelity air combat is the heart of
Aces High,
Well, yeah, it WAS. Back in the beginning. But not any more.
Those who have been around since Beta probably realize this as each new revision after the drag flight model change (was that 1.04?) had less to do with ACM and more to do with "strat" and the attendant changes to bombing, gv's, "spawn points" (I still find it amusing that people will argue for "instant transporter room teleportation" of gv's in one breath and then argue for more "realism" in the next and then argue against "instant altitude" for buffs immediately after that.)
The game has evolved away from a focus on air combat. Simple as that.
And that is neither good nor bad in itself. It's just a fact.
Whether that change appeals to you personally or not is a different subject.
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Originally posted by Tumor
Ok this is getting old. I'm gonna do something I never thought possible, it's almost embarrasing!
RUDE!!... WHERE'S YOUR WHINE OF THE WEEK THREAD???
The repetitive nature of this subject and it's author truly deserve recognition.
No one wanted to hear it anymore....only trying to make everyone happy:)
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Originally posted by Gremlin
Whereas I concurr with a lot of what Laz and Charon are saying, I do also strongly beleive in not entering a fight you cant win.
There's nothing wrong about not entering a fight that you don't have any chance at survival. The problem are the ones that don't even make any attempt to fight period.
Ack-Ack
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Two things:
AH needs trainers and a training arena ala' WB. For a noobie the short way to learn is with a trainer. If your LEARNING in the the TA your applying what your learning in the arena. Makes you more aggressive when you have a concept, which the trainer provides.
Now tell me that if you spent an hour 1 on 1 with =drex= in the old days at WB once a week with him teaching you the arts, you'd be flying at 25k cherry picking ??
I don't think so. If you did you should be b*tch slapped. You would apply what your learning by fighting over and over, then discuss, make adjustments and go out the next week and practice your craft. You would be fighting and improving with a teacher. Invaluable resourse.
Secondly the thought of entering a fight that you "can't" win is quite different when your "working it". You can't get better at multiple cons unless you fight multiple cons. You can't learn to fight with your hair on fire unless you set it ablaze. Living is a luxury when your learning your chops. Living for living sake is boring. Taking names AND living makes the juices flow.
That brings me back to trainers that KNOW the chops. Invaluable resourse missing here.
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If someone spent an hour with Drex, that would be his fault. Drex 10, noob zip. I never spent any time with a trainer in WB or here in AH but I spent alot of time playing. Even though I crashed alot and got shot down alot at the begining, I never quit out of frustration and kept on playing. Even at 1.99 an hour, WB 2.x rates!
BTW: My first kill in WB was a killshooter so I kilt myself.
:D
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Advice too the noobs, if you fight with Drex or Leviathon and you see the top of their canopies, it means your gona die soon.
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Fly away from the top of their canopies. Im just joking.
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Originally posted by nopoop
Secondly the thought of entering a fight that you "can't" win is quite different when your "working it". You can't get better at multiple cons unless you fight multiple cons. You can't learn to fight with your hair on fire unless you set it ablaze. Living is a luxury when your learning your chops. Living for living sake is boring.
Spot on poop. Nobody gets better unless you constantly challenge yourself. However dont you so often see folk who go headlong into a load of la7s and then cry cause they got their rear ends handed to em? Whos fault is that the gangers? I think not. Theres a huge gulf between smart flying and boring flying. Theres nothing to be learned when ya got no wings:) When a guy can win in a 1v1 the next step is 2v1 an so on up.
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I don't know why the terminaly timid guys think that furballers don't try to survive... they try harder than the sky accountants. They just have set a much more difficult task for themselves.
I don't say dive into any fight you see.. I want large fitghts with fairly even numbers.. the kind where when you finally catch your breath... the skys are clear.. or you are scissoring your way toward home and the ack or that group of friendlies with a shot up plane and 3 spits and a la on your tail.
compare that to the excietment of spotting a low plane every hour or two that appears to be assleep and sneaking slowly up on it..."does he see me.? Oh my gawd! he evaded! run run run for your life!"
lazs
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Only time I really find Lazs really in furballs, is when the numbers are 3-1 in his favour. It's easy talking tough when numbers are always on your side. I do recall him not wanting to stay Rooks for more than a short time because his style of fighting was too hard to do over here.
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odd.... Ive never even seen you manx much less spoke to you... Do you play AH?
lazs
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Maybe it's because I rarely fly during 'US Prime Time', but I have to say, I just don't see the timidity you guys are talking about.
In fact, EVERY time I up a plane, of any sort, somebody tries to shoot me down.( check my stats...you'll see they quite often succeed in doing exactly that too :) )
Sure, p51s still run away as soon as they lose any initial advantage they had, but that's to be expected, they'd be stupid not to.
Anyway, just my point of view, but from what I'm seeing, the red guys are as keen to fight today as they were two plus years ago.
Blue
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Maybe it's because I rarely fly during 'US Prime Time', but I have to say, I just don't see the timidity you guys are talking about.
In fact, EVERY time I up a plane, of any sort, somebody tries to shoot me down.( check my stats...you'll see they quite often succeed in doing exactly that too :) )
Sure, p51s still run away as soon as they lose any initial advantage they had, but that's to be expected, they'd be stupid not to.
Anyway, just my point of view, but from what I'm seeing, the red guys are as keen to fight today as they were two plus years ago.
Blue
I rarely fly 'US prime time' myself and usually fly after 11pm (PST) and the timid pilots are definitely out in force at that time. Last night while flying solo at A199 and A195 on Trinity, every single Rookie I encountered either coalt or that had an altitude advantage over me, dove and ran to the deck to either their acks or the nearest friendly horde. One guy that upped A195 I think ran out of fuel running from me (even though he had a slight altitude advantage) and crashed. Later on I ran into the same guy and he again ran when we were both coalt at 14,000ft. When I closed on him, he dove to the deck. Luckily for me, he wasn't all that smart because after he leveled off on the deck doing over 400mph, he extended for about a minute and then pulled up hard into a climb and literally stalled out his plane right in front of my guns.
I don't mind the easy kills such as the one above that do stupid things that make them stall out in front of my guns, it's just the limp-wristed timid tactics that I deplore.
ack-ack
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Sure do Lazs. But you're correct, we seldom talk online. Have fought you before however and have noticed the trend I stated. I think I recall you being so bored on Trinity one day that I kept my 38 on the deck for a few fights against you. Was fun, I must admit...you're quite good in an F4F. But as for the accountant's of the sky, guys like you would be accountants of the deck for what's that's worth. Not much in my book, because needing advantage in every situation is still needing advantage whether it be faster plane, more alt, or more numbers.
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blue.. I can only speak for prime time U.S.
manx... now I recall.. You did come and fight me because I was complaining about just what we are talking about. I appreciated the fights. As for the rest? How would you even know it was me? Seems funny tho that the guys I fly with think the opposite. They feel I am reckless.
I really don't like to fight over scraps any more than I like being hammered by 3 v 1 odds all the time. I will do those things rather than nothing (flying around or toolshed killing) tho. Any fight is better than no fight.
Last night I kept upping a cv with wadke and slapshot and a few others against pretty steep odds and very good players (TAS) we got killed a lot but we had a great time. Was lucky to get a kill before I died. A bigger fight would have meant more chance of survival fo me I feel... or a more even one but ... ya take what you can get. It was still a lot of fun.
lazs
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Guess I went about it all wrong but I jumped into every fight I could find...
Dude, I love this. It's like Billy Jack 2003.
Despite his commitment to leading a pacifist life, Laz2 cannot break with his violent past against high flying P51's and toolshed bombers, and despite any and all "turn the other cheek" rhetoric, each confrontation ends with Laz2 whipping out some devastating kungfu FU2 low level furball action and cracking some skulls.
And you did it for the kids at the school Laz2, God bless you.
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What hasn`t changed is your same sniveling whines......over and over again.
What has changed is your beginning to notice that players are actualy playing the game, the whole game. You don`t like it much, but your just now catching up to fact. A little slower than most as usual .
Not everyone gets into the boring over and over " you shoot me and I`ll shoot you" pointless playing. It`s OK for a few minutes, but gets like a cracker in the rain real quick (soggy).
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geeze creamo.. relax.. maybe if you tried to fight a little yourself you might begin to enjoy the game again... maybe even play it from time to time.
jakal.. are you talking about the.... "strat"? you gotta be kidding.
lazs
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looking at your stats creamo... I can see why anyone would look like a daredevil to you and why you would like a timid arena where late war fast planes have a bunch of spred out early and mid war planes to cherry pick.. you fly maybe 5-10 hors a tour in G10's and dee 9's and get less than one kill per sortie and feel that 3 kills per hour is plenty darn excieting for any sane person!
like I said.. fight a little and you may enjoy the game again.. fight a little and you may be able to do better than 3/4 to 1 K/D. It's your money but don't act like everythoing is fine if you are an example.
lazs
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Relax? Im all about Hippies and Indians Billy.
I bet Jean is hairy in all the right places. FU2 and Eagles forever. Im going to the mountain and getting the furball snake bite.
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Hey Jackal, how many train or convoy intradiction missions have you flown this month? Not just you're over the airfield and see one coming, but actual planned intradiction missions. How many strategic factory strikes or deep bomber escort missions? How many base captures where you actually face a reasonable number of defenders? How many edge of the seat, 1v1 dogfights?
Maybe you do actually play the whole game, but I doubt there are many others. Playing AH for strat (as it currently exists in the MA) is like buying a Porsche to just to haul lumber - you can, but...
Charon
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If lazs is Billy... does that make the rest of the BKs the rainbow children?
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Originally posted by Charon
Hey Jackal, how many train or convoy intradiction missions have you flown this month? Not just you're over the airfield and see one coming, but actual planned intradiction missions. How many strategic factory strikes or deep bomber escort missions? How many base captures where you actually face a reasonable number of defenders? How many edge of the seat, 1v1 dogfights?
Maybe you do actually play the whole game, but I doubt there are many others. Playing AH for strat (as it currently exists in the MA) is like buying a Porsche to just to haul lumber - you can, but...
Charon
Well let`s see.........
Question #1 None.
Question #2 None on factory strikes, quite a few on escort.
Question #3 Quite a few. It`s no fun if it`s not defended.
Question #4 Hmmmm edge of the seat dogfights. This one you would have to define . Because what the above mentioned so called furballer calls dogfights is the "you shoot me , then I`ll shoot you " crap, over and over again, which I find about as exciting as watching the grass grow not to mention lame, arcadish, timid, etc. What I call a dogfight their have been quite a few.......... and a blast.
Next..............
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deja.. never seen billy jack but I would have to say that "rainbow children" (not to be confused with rainbow coalition)would be pretty descriptive of the BK's.
jakal and creamo... maybe 5 kills per hour between em... jakal says that an intense fight is silly. neither guy flys much and neither can kill more than they die while claiming that the furballers are just swapping deaths..
Those are the guys that are saying that everything is ok. the new large maps suit them.. they can safely hide from each other on them for hours on end.
Take a look at the guys who think everything is fine...
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
jakal and creamo... maybe 5 kills per hour between em... jakal says that an intense fight is silly. neither guy flys much and neither can kill more than they die while claiming that the furballers are just swapping deaths..
Those are the guys that are saying that everything is ok. the new large maps suit them.. they can safely hide from each other on them for hours on end.
Take a look at the guys who think everything is fine...
lazs
If anyone hides it`s you Humpy!:D You hide from the entire game.
Never said the intense fight is silly. lol Your so called defintion of this is the "you shoot me, then I`ll shoot you" butt sniffin mode. LMAO , up the second account and vulch yourself to death. It twould proly thrill ya silly.
Your form of flying is as exciting to me as a bowl of chocolate ice cream spilled on a white carpet. :D
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Originally posted by lazs2
neither guy flys much and neither can kill more than they die while claiming that the furballers are just swapping deaths..
lazs
I can`t speak for creamo, but as for myself I fly a lot more than you do considering being absent from the game for about 2 weeks this tour.
Not worried about killing more than I die..... it happens when your not butt sniffing like you do.:D
Once again not speaking for creamo, but for myself, I `m not talking about furballers, just your definition of it Hump.:D
If ya ever start playing the game then maybe you can talk on the subject, but as it stands now, you have no basis for any knowledge of the game besides you arcadish play.:D
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what do you mean jakal (the assasin jakal or the cowardly dog like carrion eating creature?)....
I see every bit of the oh so complex strat every time I am up. I am affected by it all the time. I watch typhies that auger into toolsheds and p47's suicide cv's... I watch a group of 3 pee 51's pork the fuel at 3 undefended bases... I watch pt's and gv's pop up in the middle of nowhere and gv's with open tops take 2-300 rounds without killing the crew... I watch groups of 20 or 30 on a "missun" to take an undefended or lightly defended airfield and then mill around hoping somebody will be dumb enough to take off so they can all fight for the scrap... or... they simply fly around in circles over the base untill it all comes back up again or they "capture" it ..... only to repeat this interesting and complex strat all over again with the goal of maybe taking all the fields so that they can all be reset and they can start all over again.
yeah... hard enough to watch.... can you imagine someone actually doing it?
lazs
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Phhhhhhtttttttt
I don`t even think you are dense enough to believe anyone might buy that crock. (but then again..maybe so) :D
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I dunno lazs, I think I would fall into your category of sky accountants. I don't fly to lose, I fly faster planes in target rich skies but my K/T ratio is quite similar to yours. Not saying my stats are any better, because I consider yours very admirable to say the least...just they're similar. You'll be surprised, but I find your type of fighting quite a bit easier than the type me and my squad do. We do a bit of both of course, as variety is the spice of life...but constantly return to fighting high concentrations of enemy fighters in planes that generally outperform the slower turnfighter models. I suppose what I'm saying, is that you can get equal footing from both styles of fighting and in all types of aircraft. You use your advantages the way you can, and I use them the way I can. In some regards we're similar, neither of us carry ordinance often...both seldom bomb...and either could care less if gv's are in the game or not.
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Good post, stegor.
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the goal has changed from the kill board to winning the war.
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manx.. I flew the -1a for as many tours as I now fly the Fm2. I fly the 51b when the fuel is 25%.. I fly the il2 when there is no fight at all except for a few gv's close to the base... I fly the yak when the field is capped byfast planes... I fly the -4 or tempest when the fast cap is just a couple of sissy pee 51's or dee 9 opportunists with drop tanks and more patience than skill (love to run em down and wee their version of "evasives")
I believe I have even fought you. I would rather have been in a fast plane, 38 or -1a or yak or 51b when i met your 38 but... it was fun because you fought.
I find that the fast planes are easier especially on the new big maps... if you want to survive you can run. people won't chase a fast plane because they know that they will be in indian territory by the time they catch it (they certainly don't want to take that chance!)... show up 2 sectors away from your nearest base in a slow plane and you create an instant conga line. They don't have to turn back cause they know they can catch ya... if you reverse the 3 pee 51's and 4 la7's then.... the 2 spit 5's and 4 niks that were trailing will catch up.
lazs