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Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Ike 2K# on June 27, 2003, 03:46:30 AM
Instead of perking more planes in MA, we should get new ideas besides perking planes. My new idea will lessen the usage of planes that were made during the mid and late WWII so that more people will fly early WWII planes. For example, planes that fought between.......

*1939-1940 - will have 4800 planes of the same plane model such as spit 1 (as an example) in each large sized airfield, 2400 spit1s for medium fields, and 1200 spit1s for small fields

*1941-1942 - 2400 planes of the same plane model for Lrg fields, 1200 for med fields, 600 planes for small fields .

*1943 - 1200 planes for large fileds, 600 planes for med fields, 300 planes for small fields

*1st half of1944 - 600 planes for large fileds, 300 planes for med fields, 150 planes for small fields

*mid '44/1945 - 300 planes for large fileds, 150 planes for med fields, 75 planes for small fields

** Jet fighters/bombers, rocket planes- perked (same perk points as of now). If you have enough points, then Lrg sized base will have 480, the med size base will have 240, and the small sized base will have 120.

If you were shot down while flying spit 1 (as an example), you will lose 1 of the original 160 spitfire 1s in Lrg airfields and your base will only have 159 spitfire 1s. If you landed a spit 1 with A2A kills, the number of the spit 1 in your base will not increase. If you landed on a different base, you will add 1 plane for that base. You are fighting not to run out of planes in your base.

For med/hvy bombers, if you plan to fly with bomber formation, you are taking 2 extra bombers for the flight and thus increasing the chance of loosing all three of them against AAAs and fighters.  

Everyone in MA will have an opportunity to fly all planes. If you have a teamate that is taking off with TEMP then stall and crashes, the value of that plane will not change. It will only change if you get shot down.

If a base is captured, the planeset in the base base will not reset. If 1 base used up all spit9s and la-7s and get killed, then you have to wait for these planes to appear again 'till your team wins or loses the battle.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: straffo on June 27, 2003, 03:54:25 AM
No I often log just to see we have lost a lot of bases and are pretty doomed ... I don't want to be forced to fly planes I don't like just because the other player used them all and let our bases captured ...


I pay 15 buck and I don't want any one to choose the plane I will fly :)
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Suave on June 27, 2003, 03:57:34 AM
Why would there be perk planes in the mission arena ?
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Tumor on June 27, 2003, 04:12:17 AM
I'd be perfectly happy to see the MA set in such a way that only a certain number of a certain aircraft are allowed to launch from any given field at a time.

Why?  I'm just sick and tired seeing spit after spit after spit after sp.... along with the Lala's.

JMHO but I really believe that if a large majority of the hordes took the time to actually fly something without training wheels they'd be suprised at how enjoyable the game could be.

Same old story... different day.  "Easy mode" rules the MA.

If AHII doesn't make huge strides to address this... I'm gone.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: mjolnir on June 27, 2003, 05:23:09 AM
Ike, the problem with your scenario is exactly what straffo said:  What's to stop some idiot or unknowing newbie or a deliberate a**hole from trying to up 30 times in a row at a field that's being vulched by two guys, only to find that suddenly he can't (and neither can anyone else) because he used up all the planes there?  And getting mad at the guy who stalls his Tempest on takeoff accomplishes....what?  Your entire country is still out a plane and there's absolutely nothing to stop him from doing it again at the next base.

The one other point you missed has to do with large numbers of players and few fields.  Let's say that the knights, for example, are down to 3 fields, but it's prime time at there are 200 knights on.  Not everyone likes flying Spit-1s.  And what happens when there are more players than planes available?  You get a lot of very pissed off customers, and soon you get a lot of pissed off former customers.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Suave on June 27, 2003, 05:32:24 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but AHII=Mission arena ?

So.. nobody will be able to take off in anything 30 times in a row .
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Pei on June 27, 2003, 05:50:06 AM
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Originally posted by Suave
Correct me if I'm wrong but AHII=Mission arena ?

So.. nobody will be able to take off in anything 30 times in a row .



Ahh but there will still be AH "Classic" for those of us who enjoy a good Head-On or Vulch :)
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Ike 2K# on June 27, 2003, 05:57:17 AM
I changed the values of how many planes that can take-off in 1 airfield based on years. Is this idea still ok?
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: acepilot2 on June 27, 2003, 08:29:17 AM
I made a thread like this once.  I thought that factories should directly effect the availability of some aircraft, just like in real life.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: JB73 on June 27, 2003, 08:37:19 AM
what straffo said ! 10X

i cant fly what i want in the MA? close account. my squad already is restricted to LW planes (by our own choice) but then you say we can only fly "Certain" LW planes? or none @ all cause they were all "used"? AH would lose a whole squad.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Ike 2K# on July 02, 2003, 06:22:05 PM
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Originally posted by acepilot2
I made a thread like this once.  I thought that factories should directly effect the availability of some aircraft, just like in real life.


I love that idea but if this idea is implemented, i predect that there will be alot of hardcore vets who will keep on destroying factories that churns out spitfires, La-7s, N1K2-Js and other "dweebish planes".
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Tumor on July 02, 2003, 09:59:07 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
what straffo said ! 10X

i cant fly what i want in the MA? close account.  


Not a poke at you JB, but my only reply would be.... GOOD!  One 1 more Quake returnee.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: JB73 on July 03, 2003, 01:29:15 AM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Not a poke at you JB, but my only reply would be.... GOOD!  One 1 more Quake returnee.
well <> i have never played whatever "quake" is .. i been here for 1 1/2 years and pay my money just like everyone else.

personally im sick of seeing pee51 after pee51 after pee51 augering while porking fuel.

check you ideas out before you talk **** ... unless you like looking like a moron.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Ike 2K# on July 03, 2003, 01:50:35 AM
porking fuels should be easy if HTC sets fuels as trucks not bunker.
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Tumor on July 03, 2003, 03:45:45 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
well <> i have never played whatever "quake" is .. i been here for 1 1/2 years and pay my money just like everyone else.

personally im sick of seeing pee51 after pee51 after pee51 augering while porking fuel.

check you ideas out before you talk **** ... unless you like looking like a moron.


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Originally posted by Tumor
Not a poke at you JB[/color], but my only reply would be.... GOOD! One 1 more Quake returnee.


Sheesh... calm down, take a deep breath, and count to 10 bud! :D
Title: is this gonna be a new idea on the next-gen MA (AH2)?
Post by: Ike 2K# on July 04, 2003, 01:19:04 PM
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Originally posted by JB73

personally im sick of seeing pee51 after pee51 after pee51 augering while porking fuel.


I think my "new" idea would make people think twice before upping  P-51Ds (a late war plane).