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Title: The Frenchy Award...
Post by: muckmaw on June 27, 2003, 03:00:19 PM
Anyone going for it?

Mighty nice of him to offer up something to spice up the game a little.


WTG Frenchy
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Post by: straffo on June 27, 2003, 03:17:57 PM
can you explain please ?
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Post by: udet on June 27, 2003, 03:38:48 PM
I'll try...not that I'm any good, but I've been planning of flying the P47 exclusively for a tour anyways :)
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Post by: JB73 on June 27, 2003, 04:06:11 PM
i just happened to come in without using a direct link to get rid of the banner ad....

now i get it :D


Ps. i bet alot wont see it because they do what i do so there is no banner ad
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Post by: FlameBoy on June 27, 2003, 04:19:41 PM
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Originally posted by udet
I'll try...not that I'm any good, but I've been planning of flying the P47 exclusively for a tour anyways :)

Yah, me too, i start to fly it, then resort in flying the faster planes because of the other planes in the MA. Will have to give it a try :)
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Post by: Steve on June 27, 2003, 04:21:39 PM
Huh? what is this about?
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Post by: Swoop on June 27, 2003, 04:26:43 PM
Steve, look up.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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Post by: Steve on June 27, 2003, 04:29:31 PM
Swoop, the only thing I see up top is the AH merchandise ad and the Eurocontrol Ad.  I seems I am being really dense.. I'm sorry.
Will someone please hold my hand and direct me to that which this thread is referring to?
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Post by: Montezuma on June 27, 2003, 04:35:50 PM
I'm waiting for the Shane Award....
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Post by: Steve on June 27, 2003, 04:45:19 PM
Thanks,   Oed... again  I apologize for being difficult.
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Post by: Nomde on June 27, 2003, 05:00:17 PM
Hi Gents, Salute
This award revolves around flying a P47-D25 from July 1st to July 31st and the person to have the greatest K/D ratio will win the the coveted

:cool:"Frenchy Award":cool:

It is in part to widen the appreciation of this wonderful Jug and the roll in which all Jugs brighten and play in our daily lives :D

Bon nuit  ;)
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Post by: Swoop on June 27, 2003, 05:01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
Swoop, the only thing I see up top is the AH merchandise ad and the Eurocontrol Ad.  


That's odd.   I don't see the Eurocontrol ad.....I see the AH stuff ad but the Eurocontrol ad has been replaced by the Frenchy ad.


(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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Post by: Skuzzy on June 27, 2003, 05:17:48 PM
Caching.
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Post by: Steve on June 27, 2003, 05:22:38 PM
I used to think I wasn't very good in a jug.  Then I went to the DA with Lftfoot and discovered that it's not so much that I'm not very good in a jug,  but more that I suck in it.
Great idea Frenchy!!!
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Post by: Trikky on June 27, 2003, 05:25:06 PM
Oh man that's classic, wtg Frenchy outstanding stuff :)
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Post by: Yeager on June 27, 2003, 06:04:47 PM
That is neat.  A worthwhile award for sure.

WTG Frenchy
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Post by: Hornet on June 27, 2003, 06:07:38 PM
great idea Frenchy

probably needs something in announcements though for the guys coming in w/o banners
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Post by: Ack-Ack on June 27, 2003, 06:19:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nomde
Hi Gents, Salute
This award revolves around flying a P47-D25 from July 1st to July 31st and the person to have the greatest K/D ratio will win the the coveted

:cool:"Frenchy Award":cool:

It is in part to widen the appreciation of this wonderful Jug and the roll in which all Jugs brighten and play in our daily lives :D

Bon nuit  ;)



What does the winner get?  Candle light dinner with Frenchy?

Ack-Ack
Title: FRENCHY - 56TH FG
Post by: Kronos on June 27, 2003, 06:36:07 PM
LOOK OUT .... I'm coming for you!  

btw Ammo.. if you read this...

My line number is 4635
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Post by: WldThing on June 27, 2003, 06:41:16 PM
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Originally posted by TW9
The winner the one who gets the arse handed to them by WT the most? :D


lol :D

Great idea Frenchy =S=
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Post by: Reschke on June 27, 2003, 07:04:12 PM
What about the guy who gets shot down by Frenchy the most in a tour? I think I have the lead in that category right now with LftF00T and Nomde running a close 2nd and 3rd. I thinks its something like 15 for Frenchy, 6 for LftF00t and 3 for Nomde. :D
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Post by: Arlo on June 27, 2003, 07:05:59 PM
I see potential for a "Reschke Award" skipper. Unfortunately I think I'd be quite in the running. ;)
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Post by: Drex on June 27, 2003, 07:12:39 PM
ahhh....contest

with betsy?


hmmm


Drex
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 27, 2003, 07:53:54 PM
Hey guys, thank you for the enthousiasm, I appreciate.

Many participate in the life of HTC's world, even if not being part of the staff. From the top of my head, I'm thinking to the long hours the CMs spend to plan/execute events, or those spending time helping newbies in the TA/DA, or those spending hours creating maps ...

All those volonteers spend some of their time for us. They make AH a better by offering us alternatives to the "basic AH" if I may say.

I proposed this contest to HTC to have an opportunity to also give a little bit for others, something a little different. I think that everyone has a chance as it doesn't require spending hours in front of the screen, or have years of experience in AH skies to qualify and maybe win.

Hitech and his crew are really awsome when it comes to ideas, and anyone I talked to shares the same POV. You have an idea, you shoot an email, call the guy, and it's a yes/no/why/how and a couple of days later, it's on.

I hope you will enjoy "Jully in the Jug" and share the daily pain of the 56FG-63FS pilots. Let it show the way to numerous squads/players contests to spice up AH all year round:D

Cheers!:D
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Post by: sling322 on June 27, 2003, 09:25:23 PM
You have inspired me Frenchy.

I am thinking we should have a "Sling Award".  The winner would be the person who gets the most chute whines on channel 1 next tour.

Prize will be one gently used FDB T-shirt.....2X of course.  Your choice of colors as long as you choose black or green.




:D
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Post by: GScholz on June 27, 2003, 09:44:21 PM
Great idea Frenchy

If not for the fact that the P47D25 is a complete POS, I might have tried for it ;)
Title: Re: FRENCHY - 56TH FG
Post by: -ammo- on June 28, 2003, 12:49:10 AM
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Originally posted by Kronos
LOOK OUT .... I'm coming for you!  

btw Ammo.. if you read this...

My line number is 4635


WTG!!!!  Look whos having a party:)
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 28, 2003, 01:25:46 AM
The one who shoots the most P47's what does he get?

:)
I smell incoming hi alt jugs
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Post by: Seeker on June 28, 2003, 01:42:08 AM
Ah, " Le order de la camion de l' air"!



Great idea Frenchy :)
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Post by: Saintaw on June 28, 2003, 03:18:28 AM
So, who won the LA7 yearly award ?
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Post by: DB603 on June 28, 2003, 03:58:59 AM
S!

 Nice competition! Gotta participate even I am a LW iron guy to the bottom ;) :D
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Post by: fats on June 28, 2003, 05:57:49 AM
You should've banned drex from participating. Didn't he count for something like half of P-47 kills some tour?


// fats
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Post by: Toad on June 28, 2003, 07:50:07 AM
Frenchy!

A very positive contribution to the game in many different ways!

Classy!
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Post by: Swoop on June 28, 2003, 09:19:39 AM
This is gonna be great.......loads of pilots who've never flown a jug before wallowing about at 25k and compressing straight into the ground the first bounce they try.  :D  No dive flaps on a D25 ya know......

Ahem.  As I found out last night.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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Post by: -ammo- on June 28, 2003, 09:41:12 AM
What a great idea Frenchy!  The 63rd FS is glad to have you as a member.  I would much rather fly next to you then agin' you:D
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Post by: Curval on June 28, 2003, 09:44:52 AM
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Originally posted by Swoop
This is gonna be great.......loads of pilots who've never flown a jug before wallowing about at 25k and compressing straight into the ground the first bounce they try.  :D  No dive flaps on a D25 ya know......

Ahem.  As I found out last night.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)


lol....almost did it too.  My D25 was shaking like Elvis on my first dive down.

It's the HO whines that will be most prevalent I think.  I get most P47 kills that way.  8X50 cals do a fine job.
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Post by: lazs2 on June 28, 2003, 10:19:17 AM
drex fights tho so even tho he kills like raid on an ant colony... he doesn't have all that high a K/D ratio... more likely, someone who is very timid and cherry picks only fights he cant get hurt in will win..  killing 30 planes with no deaths will win over killing 300 planes with 15 deaths.

the guy with 300 kills will be the most dangerous tho.
lazs
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Post by: Trikky on June 28, 2003, 12:05:30 PM
The 30 for 0 guy wouldn't as pilots need over 100 kills to qualify.
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Post by: Tabasco on June 28, 2003, 12:09:10 PM
You gotta get at least 100 kills.  :)  Should be interesting.
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Post by: ccvi on June 28, 2003, 01:54:32 PM
Is it K/(D+1) or K/D? What happens if someone manages to get 100 kills without dying once? 100/0 is a pretty large number ;)
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Post by: SunKing on June 28, 2003, 02:04:30 PM
This is great!

 Just think of everyone screaming next tour to perk the P-47 when they see the skies full of em.
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Post by: Dux on June 28, 2003, 02:44:37 PM
I won a Frenchy Award once, but it was for something very different. :)
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Post by: osage on June 28, 2003, 03:31:12 PM
When AH records and rewards the different flavors of chute kills (both popped and unpopped), the coveted FDB Trophy could be in play:

A brass-plated spitoon (complete with authentic tubercular residue) from an old New Orleans brothel!

(http://www.kodae-arts.com/FDB/Osage/spitoon.jpg)
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Post by: MRPLUTO on June 28, 2003, 04:18:21 PM
Viva la Frenchy!

Great idea, but oooooh the whines we are going to hear.....

"You  %@#$  kill stealing D-25!"  

The D-25s fighting over kills will be like a sale at Harrod's.

MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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Post by: bockko on June 28, 2003, 04:55:28 PM
I will feel bad having to vulch my squaddies several hundred times in a month :o
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Post by: ccvi on June 28, 2003, 05:08:49 PM
What's the best plane to fight P47s?
Title: trying a new lure
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 28, 2003, 05:36:36 PM
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Originally posted by ccvi
What's the best plane to fight P47s?


P-38L...it's just simply the best plane period





Ack-Ack
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Post by: -ammo- on June 28, 2003, 05:54:48 PM
I have the most trouble while flying a P-47 from LA-7's, P-51's, 190D's, 190A's, and 109G-10's.  From an equal energy situation or where they have the energy advantage.
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Post by: Kronos on June 28, 2003, 07:26:34 PM
actually .. its the Yak-9u that is the P-47 killer.  :D
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 28, 2003, 08:32:25 PM
Totaly agree with ack ack

p38 is p47 killer pur sang

;)
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 28, 2003, 08:35:30 PM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Totaly agree with ack ack

p38 is p47 killer pur sang

;)


Actualy u can loop around a jug while doing some backward inverted spins, just for the fun before killing it.
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Post by: Flyboy on June 28, 2003, 08:42:43 PM
just flew a P47d25

first 3 kills no problem

4th kill:
rtbing as i lower my gear to land i see a osti on the runway so i power up and call for a panzer to kill the osti
as i circle around the base a high 109 dives on me, im diving too to gain speed when i notice the 109 has a yellow nose :)

it ended up in me roping the poor 109e

i land and rearm
get 2 more kills
take half a wing of a P51 at 20k and letting him rtb (aint i a nice guy :D  )

then i go to land again when i see my long six a La7

i reversed toward him and after a quick immelman take of is right or left elevator (it can be seen very clearly)

i smile thinking hehehe i will out turn now with no problem
he easely outturns me (on the deck) and with 1 lousy ping take my wing of :eek: :( :mad:

damn i hate La7s i really do
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Post by: Ghosth on June 29, 2003, 07:55:59 AM
WTG Frenchy!

Hats off to a class act & a cool new idea.



I will have to go back to flying my la7 so I can take advantage of all the new jug pilots up this month.


:)
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Post by: Creamo on June 29, 2003, 08:04:33 AM
More AH players in lone P47’s in a role they never flew historically will be a treat I will be happy to eat up. Just means I have to take up a Dora again come July 1st.  I seriously just love killing them.

Hats off to a class act & a cool new idea indeed!
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Post by: Mini D on June 29, 2003, 01:19:08 PM
I'll play if it can be called the "Freedom Award" instead.

Great idea Frenchy.  Nice to see someone loyal to a plane (regardless of uberness) for so long.  Could use more like you in the MA.

MiniD
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Post by: Animal on June 29, 2003, 02:42:35 PM
I think I'll pass the Creamo awards, in fear of getting the cooties.
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Post by: firedome57 on June 29, 2003, 03:21:34 PM
Is there a way to track who is leading this, or will someone give updates?

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Post by: Pollock on June 29, 2003, 04:39:05 PM
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Originally posted by firedome57
Is there a way to track who is leading this, or will someone give updates?


Yes check the stats daily
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Post by: Nilsen on June 29, 2003, 05:10:45 PM
oh man... my fav ride to frenchy

wish my account was open for this contest :(

Oh well, may the best alt monkey/vulcher/ pilot win :D
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Post by: NUKE on June 29, 2003, 06:27:26 PM
Frenchy for a great idea.

I wish I knew how you fly the Jug like you do. Do you have any tips on fighting in the jug? I would especially be interested in learning to turn that thing like I have seen you and some others do.

Good idea, I may try to fly that beast for a camp......though I won't be near able to win, I might just have some fun learning the plane.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on June 29, 2003, 06:56:44 PM
To spice up the contest, there should be another one that the same time for those who shoot down the most P-47's.  


ack-ack
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Post by: nopoop on June 29, 2003, 07:11:37 PM
A splendid idea, what's the prize gonna be ??
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Post by: -ammo- on June 29, 2003, 10:02:14 PM
The person who shoots the most Jugs down gets to pick the dingleberries off my butt-hair
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Post by: Furious on June 29, 2003, 10:22:13 PM
...and of course like most prize related competitions, the employees and familiy members of the sponsoring company are not eligable to win.  

Sorry 56th.
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Post by: Pollock on June 29, 2003, 10:54:28 PM
Say who
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Post by: DrDea on June 29, 2003, 11:05:10 PM
Quote"  I won a Frenchy Award once, but it was for something very different. "  Quote

  Was thet the famous "Dux saves nuts?"
Gawd I loved that one:p
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Post by: nopoop on June 29, 2003, 11:06:05 PM
Well jeez that's ALWAYS in the rules..

Don Pardo said so..

I've heard him say it.

Your not gonna go up against Don Pardo are ya ????
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Post by: Duedel on June 30, 2003, 03:25:40 AM
WTG Frenchy! Great idea.
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Post by: Creamo on June 30, 2003, 03:37:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
To spice up the contest, there should be another one that the same time for those who shoot down the most P-47's.  


ack-ack


This is a great idea by Frenchy, and ack-ack as well.

Maybe HTC throws in a free month or something for that determined La7 pile idiot. :)
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 30, 2003, 05:15:01 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
This is a great idea by Frenchy, and ack-ack as well.

Maybe HTC throws in a free month or something for that determined La7 pile idiot. :)



No it was mine idea
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Post by: Creamo on June 30, 2003, 06:16:19 AM
Why in the hell would you add a quote when it's the next comment in a thread?

I really hate that. Flossy does it too, I really, really, do hate it.

It's like listening to Shane and Steve in the open channel MA. You can't stop it, and it's so gaddamn retarded it pisses you off, yet you go on without taking effort to squelch em.
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Post by: Central on June 30, 2003, 06:49:15 AM
Confucius say: "He who NO fly um 47 lots, go flip flop to falling ground. Become easy lickens for hungy Fok tall Debul."  :D
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Post by: Nilsen on June 30, 2003, 06:56:18 AM
Rofl Central :D

no quote at all
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Post by: eskimo2 on June 30, 2003, 07:20:49 AM
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Originally posted by Steve
I used to think I wasn't very good in a jug.  Then I went to the DA with Lftfoot and discovered that it's not so much that I'm not very good in a jug,  but more that I suck in it.
Great idea Frenchy!!!


That's how I am with the Jug as well.  Great plane in theory, I like it for Jabo, but enter a Stuka, Val, or an even more competent plane and its just a matter of seconds till I die.  I just don't get how some folks can fly that dump-truck like a spit.   to all competent Jug drivers.

eskimo
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Post by: Midnight on June 30, 2003, 08:02:43 AM
Question:

If there is a tie in K/D, the winner will be determined by best K/S.

What method will be used to determine the K/S in just the P-47D-25 vs. other aircraft? From what I understand, K/S is a combined total number of all fighter sorties flown, regardless of which fighter.

If HTC is making provisions to track K/S based on A/C alone, will it be available for all aircraft types?
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Post by: gofaster on June 30, 2003, 08:08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Steve
Thanks,   Oed... again  I apologize for being difficult.


You weren't the only one to be lost by this thread.  I had no clue until Oedipus posted the link to this:

Quote

The "Frenchy Award"

The Sponsor:

Frenchy, a long-time member of the Aces High community, has offered to sponsor a contest revolving around the P-47 Thunderbolt.  Frenchy is a member of the 56FG-63FS, an AH squadron flying the P-47 on a regular basis.

The Prize:

Pewter P-47

The Duration:

The contest will run for the length of Tour 42 (July 1 - July 31, 2003).

The Winner:

The winning pilot will have the best K/D ratio in the P-47D-25.

Qualifying:

The winning pilot should have at least 100 kills in the P-47D-25.

If there is a tie:

The winner will be the pilot with the best K/S ratio in the P-47D-25.


I knew I picked the wrong tour to start flying the Spitfire V.  I was 29-18 in the P-47D-30 and 8-2 in the D-11, too.  I could've had potential.  I could've been a contender, I could've been somebody, instead of a Spit dweeb, which is what I am.
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Post by: gofaster on June 30, 2003, 08:14:38 AM
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Originally posted by Kronos
actually .. its the Yak-9u that is the P-47 killer.  :D


I agree.  Its fast enough to catch'em and can out turn'em.  Situation changes a bit over 20k, but for the most part the Yak9U will take a P-47 or three before the ammo runs out.  Just remember two things:

(a) The P-47 will out-dive a Yak9u.
(b) The P-47 will probably be higher than you, so you'll have to learn how to bait'em down and get them to lose their speed.
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Post by: Nilsen on June 30, 2003, 10:19:27 AM
gofaster, you forgot one thing

(C) pray that the P47 is not piloted by Frenchy or any other 56th pilot
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Post by: WldThing on June 30, 2003, 10:47:30 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
gofaster, you forgot one thing

(C) pray that the P47 is not piloted by Frenchy or any other 56th pilot


Dont really have to be a P-47 pilot to do good in a P-47...
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Post by: -ammo- on June 30, 2003, 11:28:11 AM
WT said-  
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Dont really have to be a P-47 pilot to do good in a P-47...


translation=  Give me some props!  I am super good in a P-47 and I just cant believe my name hasnt been mentioned yet!
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Post by: WldThing on June 30, 2003, 11:33:12 AM
What crawled up ure panties?

You sure have class ammo..Keep at it..
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Post by: -ammo- on June 30, 2003, 11:43:45 AM
smooch
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Post by: Steve on June 30, 2003, 12:22:17 PM
I'm not good in a p47... don't need props... could use some pointers though..anyone?  Ammo?  frenchy?  Lefty?
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Post by: SirLoin on June 30, 2003, 04:26:08 PM
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Originally posted by WldThing
What crawled up ure panties?



WildThong,what crawled up yers?

:D

I'm gonna take a D11 and have some fun next tour.
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Post by: WldThing on June 30, 2003, 06:47:13 PM
Didnt know anything was up my panties, wanna check? :D :p
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 30, 2003, 06:51:26 PM
Steve,

the rare times I flew against you, you came in high in the pony, did a couple of passes, recovered. When you tried to turnfight, you ran away as soon as you sensed you were about to loose the angle or when a countryman was showing up.

I think you will be just fine and pop an incredible K/D if you stick to that. Your gunery is very good, as I always eard a bunch of pings while pulling fancy evasives on your diving attacks. With the jug, it will serve you even better as you have 2 extra 50s.

The only think that may be a problem is that you may not be able to run away by putting the nose down, or rolling till you are out of gun range. I definitly suggest to turnfight only if you know that all the sectors are clears. You will porbably win the turnfight only to see a LA7 or spit coming on you from high... and it's bad news if the guy knows what you are doing.

The "problem" with the jug is that you will not be able to dodge their passes till you can take advantage of your better speed to escape the fight like in the pony. In the jug, any turnfighters, will catch up with you whatever you try to do, and will off course badly outturn you.

Your best bet (as far as I'm concerned) is to bring them in a turnfight (easy) and chop the throttle while extending flaps. This will give you an instant "zeke turn" and you have this 1 shot to shread him appart before you end up slow and watch him turn circles around you.

Off course, the HO is always na option but it's kind of ridiculous as you ususally both end up dead, and K/D is what counts in here.
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Post by: Hornet on June 30, 2003, 07:37:03 PM
jugs...panties...dweebs...thi s thread has everything :D
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Post by: RightF00T on June 30, 2003, 10:34:33 PM
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Your best bet (as far as I'm concerned) is to bring them in a turnfight (easy) and chop the throttle while extending flaps. This will give you an instant "zeke turn" and you have this 1 shot to shread him appart before you end up slow and watch him turn circles around you.


Yep, what he said and you had better nail that shot or kiss your tail fillet good-bye.  That barring the guy is a full class newbie flying with a mouse, with no rudder, no throttle, blind in one eye, with chicken pox, genital herpes, and scabies and suddenly breaks out in a horrible itch.  In that case you might have a chance.  Good Luck!:p
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Post by: Nilsen on July 01, 2003, 07:38:04 AM
Feels good to be back in the cockpit again, if it still feels good in a week im back for good

Ive eaten well this spring and the roomy jug cockpit fits just fine again :D

Do you want my address for the prize now Frenchy ? :cool:
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Post by: lazs2 on July 01, 2003, 08:19:39 AM
bet if they gave an award based on flying an early war/  slow plane people might notice that the fields are too far apart.  
lazs
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Post by: gofaster on July 01, 2003, 08:26:35 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
WildThong,what crawled up yers?

:D

I'm gonna take a D11 and have some fun next tour.


Speaking of SirLoin...

Last night I was tooling around in a Spit V looking for some action away from the action when I found a low Corsair that had just upped.  "Well, this should be easy" I thought as I winged over and dove on my unsuspecting prey.

Or so I thought.

My run in was perfect, had the Corsair lined up just right, a little bit of lead, perfect tail shot.  At d1.0 the Corsair started going evasive, but I'm not worried as the Spit V isn't known for its speed so I figure all I gotta do is cage the motor but keep enough energy to keep him from running away after I blow the merge and I should own him in a few seconds.

And I promptly blew the merge, but I'm not worried because I figure I have speed to work with here and the Corsair is turning, turning, turning to match my turning, turning turning.  Now, being the mediocre Corsair pilot that I am, I know that Corsairs will wallow if you get them slow enough, and slow-speed knife fights are what Spitfire V's are all about.  So as we're scissoring around, I figure the fight is becoming more and more in my favor.

And then the .50 cals started peppering my airframe as we snap-shotted back and forth at each scissors merge.  WTF? :eek:

I look back and the Corsair is at full flaps, gear down.  Ok, maybe that's a graphics glitch.  I've seen it happen before.  Besides, what kind of idiot would drop his gear in a dogfight?  In a Corsair? Against a Spitfire?  Its gotta be a graphics glitch

A couple more turns and my speed is getting close to stall speed. We're on the deck so I gotta keep my nose level or up. Surely the Corsair will tumble out of the sky now.  All I gotta do is keep him turning on the deck and I'll have him.  A little more S'ing, a yo (not enough speed for a full yo-yo), and then my Spitfire tumbled out of the sky.

"You have crashed. SirLoin shot you down."  

The next flight, or maybe two more later, I upped a Yak since the battle situation had become a bit more desperate for my team.  I climbed out to around 10k and inserted myself in the incoming jabo fighter stream.  I singled out a F4U and went after him.  I figured he was heavy, probably going to hit the VH or fuel or something like so many other Corsairs do.  Surprisingly, he noses down and comes to merge with me.  

I know the Yak can't out-fire a Corsair's six .50s so I barrel-roll around the head-on and make my vertical loop to come around behind the Corsair, which I figure is probably going to keep flying straight to keep his speed.  But he doesn't - he keeps with his turn and comes around behind me.

I'm not worried.  I know the Yak can out-turn a Corsair and has better low-speed handling.  We get into some loops, some turns, some scissors, and as we're passing each other I look over and see that the Corsair's gear is down.  WTF? :eek:  Horrible sense of deja vu.  Ok, this is a different plane I'm flying and I feel more comfortable in the Yak, so let's dance buddy boy!  Fight's on!

A few turns and I think I'm just a few seconds away from pulling off some fancy pilot moves that'll land me on his tail.    We're getting closer to the deck so I figure he's running out of speed and running out of options.  I go vertical to try and get him to bleed some energy and maybe I can pull off a loop or at worst a hammerhead and come down on him.  Then the Yak wallows at the top of the loop and BOP BOP BOP - tower. "SirLoin shot you down."

What I want to know, and what I may try to learn, is this gear-down Corsair turn-fight thing.  What's the trick to it?
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Post by: Zanth on July 01, 2003, 08:29:00 AM
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Question:

If there is a tie in K/D, the winner will be determined by best K/S.

What method will be used to determine the K/S in just the P-47D-25 vs. other aircraft? From what I understand, K/S is a combined total number of all fighter sorties flown, regardless of which fighter.

If HTC is making provisions to track K/S based on A/C alone, will it be available for all aircraft types?




Good question.
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Post by: gofaster on July 01, 2003, 08:41:38 AM
Oh, one more thing.

I took a P-47Dtwentysomething up for a flight to see what it was all about.  This thing climbs like a pig, meaning it doesn't.  It just sort of chugs along like the Santa Fe Express and moves the altimeter needle up whenever it feels like it.  Of all the P-47 models, this one is probably the dog of the lot.  But I was patient and let it get up to around 10k.  Of course, by the time it got to 10k it was nearly on top of the enemy base and by then I was pretty deep into the fighting so I had no choice but to engage a cluster of Spitfires that were buzzing around.

I managed to get a snapshot off on one at the merge and got its motor smoking.  Like a Great White shark and a harbor seal, I moved off to let it bleed out while I scanned for other targets of opportunity.  I had some help in the area that was doing a good job of keeping the other Spitfires busy, so I re-engaged and charged into the fight again.

The only thing I accomplished was getting 3 of the 5 Spitfires on my tail.  So I exercised the better part of valor and went nose-down into a dive to escape.  And the Spitfires followed me.  And shot at me.  And hit me.  But didn't break anything important.  I lost a gun somewhere in there but that's ok because I had 7 more to work with.

I'm getting close to the base so I start radioing that I've got 3 Spitfires on the deck chasing me if anyone wants some easy kills.  Since I fly mid-war planes alot, I'm used to being chased by The Big Three (Spitfire IX, LA-7s, and N1K2s) so I calmly extended the parade out in a straight line so my teammates could pick off the Spits.  They got one, then another, and then the Spit I had drilled must've finally bled to death back at the furball and I got a kill credit, but there was still one Spitfire back there behind me chattering away. I wiggled a bit to throw his aim and get him to line up for my fellow Rooks but we were packing some speed and they were having trouble closing on him. And then he shot me down.  Oh well.

I'd rather fly the -D11 or the Dthirtysomething.  That mid-level Thunderbolt is pathetic!
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Post by: Nilsen on July 01, 2003, 08:54:22 AM
for some odd reason i do best in the d25, go figure gofaster
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Post by: Zanth on July 01, 2003, 09:03:20 AM
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/models/charts/p47d11climb.gif)

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/models/charts/p47d25climb.gif)

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/models/charts/p47d30climb.gif)
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Post by: Sox62 on July 01, 2003, 09:09:50 AM
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I will feel bad having to vulch my squaddies several hundred times in a month :o



Rags?  Is that you there?    ;)
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Post by: gofaster on July 01, 2003, 01:01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
for some odd reason i do best in the d25, go figure gofaster


It seemed to me that the -D11 was lighter and turned better and generally handled better overall.  The -D30 was heavier and couldn't roll quite a well, but did climb better on WEP and dove quicker.  The -D25 wanted to be a -D30 but didn't have the climb or accelleration on WEP.

Maybe I just need to figure out when to deploy flaps in the thing and manage my speed better.
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Post by: Nilsen on July 01, 2003, 01:10:46 PM
Everything you said is correct gofaster, i however like the d25 best for some odd reason... Maybe the colour or maybe the lack of the dorsal fin thingy has some minor positive effect to my way of flying.

Still REALLY want the N tho :cool:
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Post by: udet on July 01, 2003, 04:03:41 PM
According to Corky Meyer in his Flight Journal article, the best fighter of the ETO is the P47!
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Post by: SirLoin on July 01, 2003, 04:09:23 PM
GoFaster..Check out AKNimitz's web site of AH films.He has a really good film of him nailing me in WildWednesday final 2.It was F4U-4's I believe and him lowering his gear at the right time was the difference.(I learned the hard way)..:)

I also hide the fact the gear is going down buy pulling up when u on six so you can only see the top of the plane.It acts as an airbrake for the overshoot.I tuck gear back in as I roll over so not to give it away and then drop them again as you get real close and overshoot(hopefully!).

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Post by: kurupi on July 01, 2003, 10:03:00 PM
WTG for the idea Frenchy. And this constest sounds very special for us, the brazilian squad.  We're from de 1/4 GAv Pacau, a Brazilian Squad that have the tradition of flying the Jug  (specially de D25, with the brazilian marks).I'm sure that my squad members will to an effort to achieve the nice prize offered! Let's see what the guys can do with our belloved P-47D25. :D
And Good Luck for all other players. Enjoy the Jug!!! :p
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Post by: gofaster on July 02, 2003, 08:39:50 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
I also hide the fact the gear is going down buy pulling up when u on six so you can only see the top of the plane.It acts as an airbrake for the overshoot.I tuck gear back in as I roll over so not to give it away and then drop them again as you get real close and overshoot(hopefully!).


Thanks for the pointer to the films.  I'll take a look next time I'm offline. :)

I remember you pulling up as I dove down in my Spitfire V, and I remember thinking "Either he'll wallow on the pull-up and I'll have him or I'll overshoot and come around for another run."  I didn't film the fight so I can't remember exactly what came next, but I probably pulled up into a loop (like so many Spit pilots do) or went into some sort of scissors.  I remember eventually going into scissors to try and force the overshoot, which is when I noticed your gear down with full flaps.  In fact, I tried that a bit last night in a massive furball over a214 on Trinity but couldn't get the F4U-1 slow enough to pop flaps and gear.  As soon as I got it down to 220ias I'd have a Spitfire or two or three on my back.  I batted 2 kills for 3 flights. :(  Lesson learned: keep the Corsair fast in a furball to keep the Spitfire IXs at bay.

I also took a P-47D25 up once into that same furball and pinged a few on my initial dive attacks, but couldn't get anything to fall off the enemy planes.  As my airspeed and altitude bled down I kept getting more and more Spitfires and LA7s on my back.  I was so frustrated with the P47D25's performance that I gave up on it for the rest of the evening.
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Post by: Magoo on July 02, 2003, 12:42:15 PM
The P47-D25 Frenchy???


Le Phew....


Magoo
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Post by: Eagler on July 03, 2003, 09:08:46 AM
just clicked the link ... cool idea

wtg Frenchy!
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Post by: Halo on July 03, 2003, 11:49:57 AM
Oh no, the P-47D25 will become fashionable and dominant and then perked.  

Next month the contest is for the D3A.

Seriously, generous thing to do, Frenchy -- thanks.
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Post by: bockko on July 03, 2003, 11:53:14 AM
HEHE Halo, perhaps the one of the jug models should be perked just to make the early planes safer.
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Post by: RacrX on July 03, 2003, 04:00:07 PM
Ground Attack kills are included I assume???
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 03, 2003, 07:43:42 PM
Yes racerX.:cool:
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Post by: Nilsen on July 04, 2003, 12:22:51 PM
I must withdraw from the contest frenchy, it took some time to get back in the "flow" from my 1,5 months off and i forgot that strafing ostys and low level basedefence with full tanks is not the way to get good K/D :D

Still working on it but 24/8 in d25 atm is hard to fix :)

Wanna make it the d30 or d11 ? :D
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 04, 2003, 02:33:25 PM
bah ... who cares? Just get to 100 kills and let luck find out if someone did better. I eard the same thing from some AH Aces, so you never know :)

Heck so far I have 2 kills, 1 death:eek:
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Post by: dedalu on July 04, 2003, 04:02:30 PM
I always fly p47d-25... but I think that I'm out of frenchy award thanks to multiple discos :( My cable modem goes off-line every time I'm flying my jug :mad:

20 sorties, 6 discos, 30% :eek:
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Post by: GScholz on July 04, 2003, 07:15:02 PM
I'm ready for ya all! :D

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Post by: Nilsen on July 04, 2003, 08:56:03 PM
btw frenchy.... ive just swiched to bish and had a fun sortie with nomde.... got a d30 kill and so did he but we got wasted by cv ack :D
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Post by: Nilsen on July 04, 2003, 08:58:02 PM
just stay clear of GA gsholz and i will let ya pass

your little plane is not small enough to escape my 8x50cals :D
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Post by: GScholz on July 04, 2003, 09:16:33 PM
And your Jug isn’t big enough to survive my ACME automatic 30mm pain dispenser. Hmmm think I will have to fly on the Bish front in the future. :D  ;)


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Post by: Nilsen on July 05, 2003, 02:46:52 AM
:D
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Post by: eddiek on July 05, 2003, 09:12:20 AM
104 kills in the D25.............ONE death.

I'm not even gonna try now........lol!;)
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Post by: Nomde on July 05, 2003, 10:45:39 AM
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And your Jug isn’t big enough to survive my ACME automatic 30mm pain dispenser. Hmmm think I will have to fly on the Bish front in the future. :D  ;)


I sense my K/D ratio will improve dramatically "in the future" :D
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Post by: GScholz on July 05, 2003, 10:50:35 AM
YOU!!!   I'll get you one of these days! :D

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Post by: RightF00T on July 05, 2003, 12:42:34 PM
We'll be waiting GScholz :D
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Post by: GScholz on July 06, 2003, 04:08:27 AM
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104 kills in the D25.............ONE death.

I'm not even gonna try now........lol!;)


Everybody! Pile on Mane! :D


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Post by: Manedew on July 06, 2003, 04:24:01 AM
shhhhhh ... don't tell anyone