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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Curval on June 28, 2003, 09:23:53 AM
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No oil, no WMDs...just a country that keeps tearing itself apart due to corruption and internal power struggles.
You guys are being asked, no begged, for help.
Will the US do so?
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Isn't Liberia the country that produces all those special U.S. coins sold to collectors?
Ya got a link to where they are begging for help?
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I say let the whole continent go to hades, and then turn it into giant Safari-Land. They need more of them ghost and the darkness lions, beserk rhinos, spear chucking cannibals, and all that fun stuff.
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Originally posted by Curval
No oil, no WMDs...just a country that keeps tearing itself apart due to corruption and internal power struggles.
You guys are being asked, no begged, for help.
Will the US do so?
I'd be willing to help.
The question I have is, can the US help everyone who asks? Probably not, and it would be foolish to say we could.
The US went into Iraq and Alfghanistan not to help, but because they were a perceived threat to us.
Maybe we could help, who knows?? We went into Somolia, Bosnia, Alfgahnistan, and other places that didnt have oil or resources.
Maybe the UN could step in and give a resolution or two....that would help I bet.
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Here is the link:
US help requested (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030628/ap_on_re_af/liberia&cid=515&ncid=716)
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Originally posted by Curval
Here is the link:
US help requested (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030628/ap_on_re_af/liberia&cid=515&ncid=716)
Curval, a better question is: what will the UN do? Isnt the UN our guiding light?
I wouldn't want the US to "go it alone"
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There aren't asking for UN help..there are asking for US help.
We all know the UN is a toothless tiger..and so do they apparently.
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Originally posted by Curval
There aren't asking for UN help..there are asking for US help.
We all know the UN is a toothless tiger..and so do they apparently.
I feel sorry for the people, I really do. They know the UN can't help them. I wish we could help everyone. I suppose we would be bashed in some way or other if we went to Liberia though.
It sucks that some counties are run by thugs and the people have to suffer. I wish I were God and could fix everything.........I would never refuse to help anyone personaly, other than murderers and the like
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i can see the headlines now, "US INVADES LIBERIA","NO BLOOD FOR LIBERIA"
on a bigger view, if you want the USA to stop all the killing in africa (impossible) the US would have to "occupy" the whole continent (also impossible).
this is a job for the UN.
liberia is in no way threat to USA, it's just ridcules.
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France is supporting the idea of an international intervention in Liberia.
So f*ck 'em...
(when in doubt, do the opposite of what France is doing).
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Originally posted by Hortlund
France is supporting the idea of an international intervention in Liberia.
So f*ck 'em...
(when in doubt, do the opposite of what France is doing).
I hope France gets full UN approval first......
Maybe 15 years of inspections will help them.
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Curval is the typical whiner. Your hatred of the US is blatant in your posts. You cry because we go into Iraq. If we'd gone into Liberia, you'd cry about that.
Why aren't you posting about what a joke their president is? Why don't you actually learn about the situation in Liberia, before you come on the BBS and shoot your mouth off.
Taylor is the problem, why the heck would we help him? We told him we'd come to Liberia as soon as he stepped down. He's more concerned with us bailing him out and securing his power. He's a criminal.
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USA..Liberia is begging for your help. Are you willing to help?
No.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Curval is the typical whiner. Your hatred of the US is blatant in your posts. You cry because we go into Iraq. If we'd gone into Liberia, you'd cry about that.
Why aren't you posting about what a joke their president is? Why don't you actually learn about the situation in Liberia, before you come on the BBS and shoot your mouth off.
Taylor is the problem, why the heck would we help him? We told him we'd come to Liberia as soon as he stepped down. He's more concerned with us bailing him out and securing his power. He's a criminal.
Marlet,
You are full of it. Check back a few months and you will see I fully supported the US action in Iraq. I did so based on the reports that Iraq had WMDs in massive quanties, and the fact that Sadaam was a nutcase. I still support the action although I now don't believe a word your President says..I don't like being lied to, as I have also said on these boards.
Taylor is a crimminal, on par with Hussein if you look at his record. It isn't his pleas for help that I am focusing on...it is the people depositing the bodies of their family members on the US embassy's doorstep that I believe should be helped. Deposing Taylor should be step 1 for the US/UN/France whoever.
Just be certain you know what you are talking about before knee-jerk reacting in your typical way. I'd very much like you to show me where I have ever even hinted that I hate the USA on these boards..in fact if you spend the time you will see I am very fond of the US and "most" of its people.
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Who's going to help.........me?
Heck no it's nasty there.
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Originally posted by Curval
Marlet,
You are full of it. Check back a few months and you will see I fully supported the US action in Iraq. I did so based on the reports that Iraq had WMDs in massive quanties, and the fact that Sadaam was a nutcase. I still support the action although I now don't believe a word your President says..I don't like being lied to, as I have also said on these boards.
Taylor is a crimminal, on par with Hussein if you look at his record. It isn't his pleas for help that I am focusing on...it is the people depositing the bodies of their family members on the US embassy's doorstep that I believe should be helped. Deposing Taylor should be step 1 for the US/UN/France whoever.
Just be certain you know what you are talking about before knee-jerk reacting in your typical way. I'd very much like you to show me where I have ever even hinted that I hate the USA on these boards..in fact if you spend the time you will see I am very fond of the US and "most" of its people.
Sorry.
I'm sick of the world expecting the US to be their saviour. We'll do it when and if we want to. We aren't beholden to anyone. Half the countries that cry to us for help, scream for our demise as soon as they are back on their feet.
The US is the bad guy whether they help or not. I'm getting sick of helping any of you ungrateful leeches anymore.
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Screw Liberyia. Kadafy can kiss my ass.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Curval is the typical whiner. Your hatred of the US is blatant in your posts. You cry because we go into Iraq. If we'd gone into Liberia, you'd cry about that.
Why aren't you posting about what a joke their president is? Why don't you actually learn about the situation in Liberia, before you come on the BBS and shoot your mouth off.
Taylor is the problem, why the heck would we help him? We told him we'd come to Liberia as soon as he stepped down. He's more concerned with us bailing him out and securing his power. He's a criminal.
Whattaloadacrap. SuperJizz has been very supportive of the USA.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Screw Liberyia. Kadafy can kiss my ass.
LOL! On many levels, LOL! :)
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Originally posted by funkedup
Screw Liberyia. Kadafy can kiss my ass.
You funny guy. Even Fluffy laughed at that one. :)
That would make a great Rosanne Rosanna-Danna tirade! :D
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Fair enough.
I know the US can never really "win" in international politics, its unfair and the US draws significant undeserved criticism at every turn.
In this case, however, the people are screaming for direct intervention by the United States, not the UN. That actually is a very telling situation and one which is a point of pride for the United States. The people want peace over there so that they can live without a constant threat of war and see the US as the only country potentially willing and able to devote the resourses to do it based on recent events in Iraq.
We can all sit back and say Africa is, and always has been, a festering cesspool of corruption and dictatorships and that it isn't our problem. Liberia is just one country and the US can't help everyone. I just can't help thinking that this is a great chance for the US to start something that just might turn that situation around.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Screw Liberyia. Kadafy can kiss my ass.
idiot it's spelled Qadafi :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by NUKE
Maybe we could help, who knows?? We went into Somolia, Bosnia, Alfgahnistan, and other places that didnt have oil or resources.
Bosnia?!?!?!?!?! Only one American went to Bosnia, he was a F16 pilot.
USA is chery picking the countries they want to help depending on what they can have in return. What's new? EVERY country is more or less doing it, i's Geopolitic 101.
The "we are going there to help thos epoor peopel" is for the public opinion to justify the cost/losses, rwal reason is always money or protection.
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Liberia is split into 3 factions and has been since the late 1800's. There are 2 native tribes and a third group that is decendant of former Americans Slaves that were given their freedom and sent back to Africa after the American Civil War. The 2 Native Tribes HATE (if that is a strong enough word) the former slaves for their "White Man" ways. There was a coup in the 70's and one of the Native Tribes took control of government and immediately begain mass executions. The US stepped in and negotiated a peace. Since then it has been coup after bloody coup with the factions trading power. If they want to kill themselves, let them. They want no part of a peacefull existance.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Bosnia?!?!?!?!?! Only one American went to Bosnia, he was a F16 pilot.
Uhhhm no.... There are thousands of US troops in Bosnia and Kosovo...
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Bosnia?!?!?!?!?! Only one American went to Bosnia, he was a F16 pilot.
USA is chery picking the countries they want to help depending on what they can have in return. What's new? EVERY country is more or less doing it, i's Geopolitic 101.
The "we are going there to help thos epoor peopel" is for the public opinion to justify the cost/losses, rwal reason is always money or protection.
Are you stoned? We had up to 15,000 troops in Bosnia.
Plus, we are not "cherry picking" countries you ignorant person .
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Originally posted by Udie
idiot it's spelled Qadafi :rolleyes:
Up yours! It's also spelt Kadafy and Gadafi and a lot of other things. I spell it E-A-T-S-H-I-T-C-A-M-E-L-J-O-C-K-E-Y-S!
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15,000 DAMMMMMMM! I never saw one! I must have been blind. Where were they stationed? Can you name a city for me please? Not to discredit you, just for my general knowledge.
Nuke, I spend some time as a Lt in the French Air Force Intel. I wished I could give you some sweet example of my country, or USA involvement in some areas of the globe. Gime a bunch of example where you are not Cherry picking? Don't tell em you are a "soccer mom", I'll not believe it:D
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1. If the US goes in someone will object and then a boat load of other objectors will come forth. If the US doesn't go in then that same someone will make all kinds of accusations ranging from being uncaring to cherry picking. You can't win.
2. If the French support intervention then I'm be very interested in seeing them go in and sort out the mess. That would be very interesting indeed.
3. For ten points can anyone tell me how the French are/were involved with Somalia.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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I don't want to see a single french soldier in Liberia it's not our mess.
It's your **** not our.
Swoop did I ever said you were moronic ?
it's the answer to your 3 points.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
15,000 DAMMMMMMM! I never saw one! I must have been blind. Where were they stationed? Can you name a city for me please? Not to discredit you, just for my general knowledge.
Nuke, I spend some time as a Lt in the French Air Force Intel. I wished I could give you some sweet example of my country, or USA involvement in some areas of the globe. Gime a bunch of example where you are not Cherry picking? Don't tell em you are a "soccer mom", I'll not believe it:D
Frenchy are you an idiot?
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The US has been supporting Liberia in many ways since it was founded and will likely continue doing so indefinitely. What would you have us do Curval? Take away their right to govern themselves? They are and have been a sovereign nation for almost 200 years now.
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I probably am Nuke, nevertheless please let me know were they were stationed so next time I don't look like a fool. At the time, I was runing around in the forest and I didn't had any chance to cross path with Americans, I sure saw most of all other Nato's countries.
So please stop insulting me, and gime a location so i don't qualify as an idiot anymore.
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Je pense qu'il parle d'apres 96 ...
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Hey Swoop, where's the UK?
=The United States has also had some international support for its efforts in Somalia as "German, French, [and] American planes and ships have significantly increased surveillance of the 1,900-mile-long [3040-kilometer long] Somali coast and Somali airspace, with the goal of preventing al-Qaeda members from entering Somalia from Afghanistan," said Shinn.=
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/af/security/a2020401.htm
Shoot I need to go to SF. I'll post a thread coming home, I love chatting with you guys, I'm learnign a lot:)
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I probably am Nuke, nevertheless please let me know were they were stationed so next time I don't look like a fool. At the time, I was runing around in the forest and I didn't had any chance to cross path with Americans, I sure saw most of all other Nato's countries.
So please stop insulting me, and gime a location so i don't qualify as an idiot anymore.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/bosnia/bosnia_12-21b.html
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Europe/EM437.cfm (http://www.heritage.org/Research/Europe/EM437.cfm)
http://www.emergency.com/bsnia-ed.htm
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bosexit.htm
http://www.enquirer.com/bosnia/stories/bosnia0214.html
I hope some of this helps Frenchy. You are indeed an idiot if you claim that no American troops were in Bosnia.
If those links dont help, feel free to look uo the infornation yourself.
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Originally posted by AKIron
The US has been supporting Liberia in many ways since it was founded and will likely continue doing so indefinitely. What would you have us do Curval? Take away their right to govern themselves? They are and have been a sovereign nation for almost 200 years now.
What does 200 years of soverignty have to do with anything? Iraq's been a soverign nation for thousands of years and that soverignty was violated, and for good reason.
Go in, take out Taylor and establish a government that the people aren't afraid to disagree with, visa vis Iraq.
I suspect the support that the US provided has not had the desired effect. It is the kind of support that has been nothing but trouble for the US for decades. That seems fairly self evident when rebels are firing artillery from positions so close to the capital city and are chased out every few months.
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Originally posted by Curval
What does 200 years of soverignty have to do with anything? Iraq's been a soverign nation for thousands of years and that soverignty was violated, and for good reason.
Go in, take out Taylor and establish a government that the people aren't afraid to disagree with, visa vis Iraq.
I suspect the support that the US provided has not had the desired effect. It is the kind of support that has been nothing but trouble for the US for decades. That seems fairly self evident when rebels are firing artillery from positions so close to the capital city and are chased out every few months.
What does Iraq have to do with Liberia?
You have hidden motives in your first post?
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Curval, you're obviously angry at the US. Consider the difference between the US involvement in Iraq and Liberia. Iraq invaded it's neighbor, another sovereign nation. They surrendered when the going got tough and agreed to all our terms but abided by none. Iraq also attempted the assasination of a US president. We gave them 12 years to live up to their agreement, how much longer should we have given them?
On the other hand, hundreds of millions, probably billions in aid have been given to Liberia. You think that money grows on trees? Hell no, it's out of the pockets of hard working US citizens. So, stop with the self righteous bull**** already, or not and I'll simply ignore you like so many other deluded self righteous US haters.
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Originally posted by Curval
What does 200 years of soverignty have to do with anything? Iraq's been a soverign nation for thousands of years and that soverignty was violated, and for good reason.
Curval, crack open a History book before you make a bigger fool of yourself. The nation of Iraq was formed in 1920 by the League of Nations. By my math thats 83 years.
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Whatever guys...you're right I don't know the intricate details of Iraq's past...but even 83 years of being a sovereign nation still makes the last war a violation of that sovereignty. Here you are suggesting that the US shouldn't get involved in Liberia because it should not violate another nations sovereignty.
THAT is foolish.
I'm not angry at the US. Stop being so paranoid.
And..as far as the billions in aid that is heading to Liberia, don't you think that is a very bad allocation of US funds? Are you blind? Stop giving the tyrant money. It will cost less to go and deal with it properly. They are killing each other now...what the heck is the money being spent on?
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Curval, come back and post when you understand the situation in Monrovia.
Your indirect implication that the US is somehow the bad guy because weve been asked to "help" is really misguided.
The fighting that has been occuring since Tuesday could have been avoided if the Pres. stepped down as demanded by the rebel troops. Problem is - he knows he will be given to the UN for war crimes if taken alive.
Troll elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Your indirect implication that the US is somehow the bad guy because weve been asked to "help" is really misguided.
Where have I said the US is a bad guy? Again..stop being paranoid.
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Originally posted by Curval
Where have I said the US is a bad guy? Again..stop being paranoid.
shut up you anti American scum bag !
where is GRUNHERZ when you need him ?
pffff ...I've to do is job in the BBS now .... damm where is the world going !
:D
(it's a joke guys ;))
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Iraq's been a soverign nation for thousands of years
Not really. Iraq was created by the British.
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Originally posted by ra
Not really. Iraq was created by the British.
Right, we established that technically that statement was incorrect, but it was a mute point because Iraq's sovereignty was in fact violated in any case....for a good reason as I said above.
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I dont think I have ever attacked anyone on the BBS for posing simple honest questions or concerns about my country - however I will jump all over you if always spew some loaded paranoid "Deth To Amreeka" crap...
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All those billions have fed a lot of people around the world Curval, in many cases meaning the difference between life and death.
We (the US) have neither the resources nor the desire to be the world's government. When a country poses too great a threat to world security and/or freedom we step in, as we did in WWI, WWII, Communist expansion and a few other occasions.
If I misread your intent then I offer my apology.
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No argument from me AKIron, regarding the US feeding and helping countries around the world.
I think you and Saur were getting the impression that I think the US have an obligation with respect to Liberia. I don't. All I am suggesting is that if you guys did go in it would be great international PR and possibly a stepping stone to sorting the mess out in that part of the world.
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Originally posted by Curval
No argument from me AKIron, regarding the US feeding and helping countries around the world.
I think you and Saur were getting the impression that I think the US have an obligation with respect to Liberia. I don't. All I am suggesting is that if you guys did go in it would be great international PR and possibly a stepping stone to sorting the mess out in that part of the world.
I sometimes think that no matter what we do , we would be demonized.
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Originally posted by Curval
I think you and Saur were getting the impression that I think the US have an obligation with respect to Liberia. I don't. All I am suggesting is that if you guys did go in it would be great international PR and possibly a stepping stone to sorting the mess out in that part of the world.
I withdraw my statement then - I misread what you typed - probably for the same reason NUKE brought to light above.
Liberia is a double edged sword - the rebel factions arent much better than those in power.
Im pretty close to this whole ordeal as my company operates in the country (one of the Aussies I work with here is actually banded from Liberia for life... great story behind that).
In any event - its much more complicated than "Help us US!" and, quite frankly, I think the "request" for help is almost a jab at the US government - it is most definately not a simple cry for assistance.
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We have republicans in office. There is nothing to gain financially there so no we wont help. If democrats were in office we would send troops but tie they're hands so they cant defend themselves so we still wouldnt help.
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oh ya but lets let the congo rot ..... :rolleyes:
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The whole of Africa is a lost cause... and its not anyone fault but their own.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Sorry.
I'm sick of the world expecting the US to be their saviour. We'll do it when and if we want to. We aren't beholden to anyone. Half the countries that cry to us for help, scream for our demise as soon as they are back on their feet.
The US is the bad guy whether they help or not. I'm getting sick of helping any of you ungrateful leeches anymore.
True very True.
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Best way to help africa is to air drop condoms all over the country:)
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They'd just pack them up - sell them back to us for 2x the price and use the money to buy weapons.
Lost. Cause.
Fense it off and let them have at it - the only shred of civilization exists in South Africa, and thats kinda like calling Trenton, NJ a resort town.
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European and U.N. leaders have urged the United States to take a lead role in such a peace force, citing the effectiveness of Britain's and France's military deployments in their former colonies of Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast.
European and U.N. leaders ....
Cuval before you make a handsomehunk statement like "no they're begging for help" I suggest you fully read the dam article. This is just another Dipchit Curval post and poor attempt at trolling.
Frikken sploogemonkey.
:D
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Originally posted by AWMac
European and U.N. leaders ....
Cuval before you make a handsomehunk statement like "no they're begging for help" I suggest you fully read the dam article. This is just another Dipchit Curval post and poor attempt at trolling.
Frikken sploogemonkey.
:D
Before making dipschit or handsomehunk comments like that to me why don't you check the date of the Yahoo article you are now looking at on that link, and check the date of my post. Yahoo has put today's article at the same web adress for the article I posted...in the original the request for help quotes were from people depositing bodies of their relatives on the US embassy.
Typical "jonny come frekin lately" jab by you mate.
EDIT: I checked the story..it is dated June 28, 2003, but it is NOT the same artice that I had originally linked. The one I linked was entitled "Liberians begging US for help". or something of the sort.
So..I was too rough in my comments above...but that resulted from being attacked for the wrong reasons.
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Originally posted by rc51
Best way to help africa is to air drop condoms all over the country:)
This is so stupid it made me spew. Definite sig material.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Lost. Cause.
Fense it off and let them have at it - the only shred of civilization exists in South Africa, and thats kinda like calling Trenton, NJ a resort town.
ROFL...
Another graduate of the rc51 school of human relational theory.
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Why in the hell should we help and why shouldn't the many European countries help instead?
We are not closest by proximaty, nor are we the only country capable. Since when are we the worlds savior? We only get treated with disrespect by every third country ****hole.
Let France and Germany do it. As France should have learned long ago, the Congo is beyond help, and there isn't squat that can be done in Liberia that will actually have any long term effect.
History has shown us, that without colonial rule, most if not all African countries will continue to be cesspools of violence and lawlessness. They want to "run" their own countrys, let them. Don't expect us to have our soldiers sacrifice their lives for ungrateful scum.
We went into Somalia to help, we tried to distribute relief food, and we would have helped them move forward and establish means to help themselves, but for our efforts, 18 brave young men died, and many more were injured. I hope Somalia enjoys its just rewards.
The people in these African nations are so rooted in tribal cultures and hatreds, they can't be helped. Nuke the whole freaking continent and start fresh when it stops glowing.
And Curval, you are one f'ed up person who doesnt even understand himself and why you are so full of hate. I hope some day you get the help you need, but I doubt it will happen, as you seem lacking in the ability of introspection.
Dago
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Somalia left a bad taste in the mouths of the American public. The US is also in the midst of an economic downturn. Why should we give money to an African country in the middle of a civil war when we're having trouble with money ourselves?
No more "Blackhawk Down".
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LOL Curval... I guess my attempt to rough yer fur and provoke some flames from you worked. Removing the hook and practicing catch and release.
Congrats on the soon to be new arrival.:p
LMAO...Hook, Line and Sinker.
:D
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Originally posted by Dago
And Curval, you are one f'ed up person who doesnt even understand himself and why you are so full of hate. I hope some day you get the help you need, but I doubt it will happen, as you seem lacking in the ability of introspection.
Dago
Read the whole thread you putz. You have no idea what you are talking about.
lol..AWMac. Stop tugging, the damn thing is stuck.:)
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Who is this Liberia guy and what does he want?
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And I thought that Librarians were so quitelike....:rolleyes:
Ohhhhh .... I see now... yep it's always the quiet ones!!!!
Send in the Armed Forces and we'll creep up behind all them steeenken Librarians and when they ain't lookin we'll
SHUUUUUSSSHHHH them!!!
I knew it, knew it all along....never trust a Librarian!
No Blood for Books!!!
:D
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Well it does look like we may send troops.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90862,00.html
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Here ya go, Curval.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90862,00.html
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Steve/firbal...that can't be true. According to Dago anyone who even suggests US involvement is full of hate and lacks introspection.:rolleyes:
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Curval,
Respectfully, why do you need a big brother government to coerce others do your fighing for you?
If you want to help Liberia so much, why not do it privately? Draw a plan, create a foundation, get people involved, collect funds, assemble volunteers, buy arms, hire additional fighters, etc.
miko
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Miko...respectfully, they ain't asking for my help. They are asking for US help.
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Curval: Miko...respectfully, they ain't asking for my help. They are asking for US help.
By "US help", do you mean that some individual people living in USA must do some action that would help the liberians? If so, an average dude living in US does not differ much from you - probably has less disposable income, education, etc.
So if you an american guy can donate money, organise or volunteer for cannon fodder, you may do so as well.
Of course if you believe that US (or a State in general) is more than a collection of individuals but rather some kind of super-entity with distinct conciousless, thoughts and motivations operating besides and above those of individual constutuents - then you should talk directly to that entity rather than waste your time talking to mortal people here - like you would by talking to individual cells instead of a whole human being.
P.S. I am currently reading a great book by George Orwell "Homage to Catalonia" about his participation in the Spanish Civil War. Did you know he joined as volunteer and took a bullet through the throat in that conflict?
I've only started, so cannot comment much but I am sure it will be a great read.
miko
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miko's practicing his English again.
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I dunno about that hate and introspection stuff....
I am just answering your post. I'll leave all the vitriol and ire to others.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
miko's practicing his English again.
:) I thought maybe I had a really long day or something.
Miko...I'm not sure what you are trying to say there dude but it has something to do with individuals, and that is not what this is about. The Liberians are asking for help from the US (United States..just so we are clear) government, not from individuals. They want Taylor out and peace from what I read.
Could I help? Yes, I suppose..although if I tried to go over there I'd end up a bloody pulp in a shallow grave or in a back alley somewhere and if I tried to send money or donations they would end up in Taylor's treasury. Will I, personally? No. Too busy with my life and I have no obligation to do so.
Likewise the US, in my opinion, has no obligation with respect to Liberia and the current administration can do something or not do something...no judgement call here.
All I am suggesting is that if the US did go in it might ease some of the criticism leveled at the US for getting involved only when oil or a direct threat is involved. Call it international PR.
Spend a few billion now to try and resolve the problem once and for all....it might work out cheaper in the long run.
This is VERY easy to say though, granted. Tribal/religious/cultural hatred is already proving tougher in Afganistan and Iraq than anyone ever suspected. History suggests that African would only be worse.
The process would take generations, not a few years, to deal with.
Let us discuss the matter not fight.