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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Janne Hakala on September 11, 1999, 06:50:00 AM
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Check out NeoTrace -software from http://www.neoworx.com/ (http://www.neoworx.com/)
Great graphical trace with ping times of each server and so on and so on..
Absolutely worth to look at !
Janne
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I will set up traces as soon as HTC lets un know the routes.
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"I could feel the 20MM Cannon impacting behind me so I made myself small behind the pilot armor" Charlie Bond AVG
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For the first few weeks of beta it will be the same as our web page. Sigh new t1 was delayed from Late augest to early oct.
So just trace to hitechcreations.com
HiTech
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Well,
looks fairly OK to me:
NeoTrace Version 2.02 - Shareware (7-18-99)
Destination: hitechcreations.com
-#--------------Node Name---------------IP Address------Location-----------RT*--High---Low---Avg-Tot---D-Who
1 daedalus.home.world 192.168.0.3 51.240N, 6.560E 0 0 0 0 1 0
2 No Response 0.0.0.0 Unknown - 0 0 0 8 8
3 dial-in-0.essen.ins.de 192.129.55.182 Unknown 72 322 35 145 4 0
4 xlink-border.essen.ins.net 192.129.55.176 Unknown 50 55 44 52 4 0
5 essen.core.xlink.net 192.129.55.161 51.267N, 6.567E 36 47 36 41 4 0
6 koeln3.core.xlink.net 194.122.230.41 50.558N, 6.567E 46 54 46 49 4 0
7 frankfurt.core.xlink.net 194.122.232.41 50.058N, 8.408E 51 68 51 57 4 0
8 frankfurt2.core.xlink.net 194.122.232.130 50.058N, 8.408E 51 68 51 55 4 0
9 ffm-nr04.eunet.com 134.222.19.5 Unknown 54 65 54 59 4 0
10 obl-cr01.nl.eu.net 134.222.228.229 Unknown 59 70 59 59 4 0
11 ledn-cr01.nl.eu.net 134.222.228.234 Unknown 61 63 59 60 4 0
12 nyk-nr02.ny.us.eu.net 134.222.228.22 Unknown 137 152 137 141 4 0
13 nyk-nr01.ny.us.eu.net 134.222.228.41 Unknown 159 159 140 151 4 0
14 viva-nr02.va.us.eu.net 134.222.228.142 38.892N, 77.250W 305 305 144 202 4 0
15 f0.iad0.verio.net 192.41.177.121 Unknown 159 176 159 169 3 0
16 iad0.iad3.verio.net 129.250.2.178 Unknown 159 163 153 158 3 0
17 iad3.dfw2.verio.net 129.250.2.209 32.725N, 97.317W 224 224 201 212 3 0
18 vtxs0.dfw.verio.net 129.250.31.53 32.725N, 97.317W 198 214 198 204 3 0
19 border9-fa5-1-0.dlls.tx.verio.net 199.1.141.3 Unknown 206 214 206 208 3 0
20 border10-se12-0-0.dlls.tx.verio.net 204.214.10.118 Unknown 197 240 197 218 4 2
21 applink-gw.nkn.net 204.214.9.90 Unknown 223 223 209 216 4 1
22 hitechcreations.com 206.149.40.141 Unknown 331 331 212 252 3 0
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*All times in milliseconds (ms), D=Dropped packets
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September 11, 1999 23:5:9
NeoTrace Copyright ©1997-1999 NeoWorx inc http://www.neoworx.com (http://www.neoworx.com)
On the other hand:
Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 1 0ms
dial-in-0.essen.ins.de 192.129.55.182 2 30ms 31ms 0% 32 / 32 29ms / 41ms
xlink-border.essen.ins.net 192.129.55.176 3 31ms 33ms 0% 32 / 32 30ms / 47ms
essen.core.xlink.net 192.129.55.161 4 32ms 44ms 0% 32 / 32 31ms / 201ms
koeln3.core.xlink.net 194.122.230.41 5 43ms 56ms 0% 32 / 32 42ms / 230ms
frankfurt.core.xlink.net 194.122.232.41 6 55ms 63ms 0% 32 / 32 46ms / 231ms
frankfurt2.core.xlink.net 194.122.232.130 7 47ms 50ms 0% 32 / 32 46ms / 72ms
Ffm-nr04.eunet.com 134.222.19.5 8 58ms 61ms 0% 32 / 32 46ms / 251ms
Obl-cr01.NL.EU.net 134.222.228.229 9 57ms 75ms 0% 32 / 32 52ms / 518ms
Ledn-cr01.NL.EU.net 134.222.228.234 10 253ms 65ms 0% 32 / 32 53ms / 253ms
Nyk-nr02.NY.US.EU.net 134.222.228.22 11 146ms 135ms 0% 32 / 32 130ms / 146ms
Nyk-nr01.NY.US.EU.net 134.222.228.41 12 135ms 138ms 0% 31 / 31 131ms / 212ms
Viva-nr02.VA.US.EU.net 134.222.228.142 13 139ms 155ms 0% 31 / 31 137ms / 324ms
f0.iad0.verio.net 192.41.177.121 14 157ms 157ms 9% 28 / 31 146ms / 197ms
iad0.iad3.verio.net 129.250.2.178 15 154ms 158ms 0% 31 / 31 146ms / 198ms
iad3.dfw2.verio.net 129.250.2.209 16 216ms 211ms 6% 29 / 31 195ms / 313ms
vtxs0.dfw.verio.net 129.250.31.53 17 218ms 222ms 9% 28 / 31 184ms / 616ms
border9-fa5-1-0.dlls.tx.verio.net 199.1.141.3 18 190ms 205ms 9% 28 / 31 190ms / 259ms
BORDER10-SE12-0-0.DLLS.TX.VERIO.NET 204.214.10.118 19 190ms 207ms 12% 27 / 31 190ms / 310ms
applink-gw.nkn.net 204.214.9.90 20 214ms 213ms 3% 30 / 31 199ms / 278ms
hitechcreations.com 206.149.40.141 21 221ms 210ms 9% 28 / 31 196ms / 224ms
Seems that the Eu.Net to verio.net causes
troubles...
Dancer out.
[This message has been edited by Dancer (edited 09-11-1999).]
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Here's mine..using my connection from my place of work:
NeoTrace Version 2.02 - Shareware (7-18-99)
Destination: hitechcreations.com
-#--------------Node Name---------------IP Address------Location-----------RT*--High---Low---Avg-Tot---D-Who
1 sagliss 212.114.193.149 48.150N, 11.583E 0 0 0 0 1 0
2 gw2.computec.de 212.114.193.1 Unknown 0 0 0 0 2 0
3 195.63.0.89 Unknown 0 0 0 0 2 0
4 cs7206-1.astat.de 195.63.0.113 Unknown 0 0 0 0 2 0
5 hssi4-1-0.ffm4.nacamar.net 194.162.253.189 50.058N, 8.408E 10 10 10 10 2 0
6 atm3-0.sprintnap.nacamar.net 194.112.25.131 Unknown 90 90 90 90 2 0
7 f0.pen.verio.net 192.157.69.37 39.967N, 75.050W 90 90 90 90 2 0
8 pne0-0.phl02-0.verio.net 129.250.2.86 39.950N, 75.158W 90 90 90 90 2 0
9 phl02.phl00.verio.net 129.250.3.153 39.950N, 75.158W 90 90 90 90 2 0
10 phl00.iad3.verio.net 129.250.3.105 Unknown 90 90 90 90 2 0
11 iad3.dfw2.verio.net 129.250.2.209 32.725N, 97.317W 140 140 140 140 2 0
12 vtxs0.dfw.verio.net 129.250.31.53 32.725N, 97.317W 200 200 140 170 2 0
13 border9-fa5-1-0.dlls.tx.verio.net 199.1.141.3 Unknown 140 140 140 140 2 0
14 border10-se12-0-0.dlls.tx.verio.net 204.214.10.118 Unknown 141 141 131 136 2 0
15 applink-gw.nkn.net 204.214.9.90 Unknown 140 150 140 145 2 0
16 beta.hitechcreations.com 206.149.40.141 32.934N, 97.095W 150 150 140 145 2 0
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*All times in milliseconds (ms), D=Dropped packets
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September 15, 1999 15:50:38
NeoTrace Copyright ©1997-1999 NeoWorx inc http://www.neoworx.com (http://www.neoworx.com)
Sascha JG 77 "Herz As!"
[This message has been edited by Sascha JG 77 (edited 09-15-1999).]
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Here 'ya go:
traceroute to www.hitechcreations.com (http://www.hitechcreations.com) (206.149.40.141), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 pueo-fe0-0 (199.222.42.1) 0.651 ms 0.642 ms 0.786 ms
2 4.24.134.17 (4.24.134.17) 4.435 ms 2.373 ms 1.771 ms
3 4.0.4.106 (4.0.4.106) 58.017 ms 58.896 ms 111.604 ms
4 161.ATM2-0-0.CR1.SFO1.ALTER.NET (137.39.74.101) 73.321 ms 92.088 ms 93.683 ms
5 411.atm11-0-0.br1.sfo1.ALTER.NET (137.39.21.217) 74.074 ms 70.190 ms 69.457 ms
6 uu.pao1.verio.net (129.250.9.5) 67.632 ms 65.910 ms 69.358 ms
7 pao5.pao6.verio.net (129.250.2.130) 68.633 ms 70.758 ms 77.633 ms
8 pao6.pvu0.verio.net (129.250.3.26) 91.533 ms 85.093 ms 84.644 ms
9 pvu0.pvu1.verio.net (129.250.3.30) 125.106 ms 132.538 ms 127.275 ms
10 pvu1.dfw3.verio.net (129.250.2.42) 125.923 ms 123.047 ms 122.743 ms
11 vtxs0.dfw.verio.net (129.250.31.53) 126.524 ms 124.880 ms 128.266 ms
12 border9-fa5-1-0.dlls.tx.verio.net (199.1.141.3) 131.119 ms 124.340 ms 125.480 ms
13 BORDER10-SE12-0-0.DLLS.TX.VERIO.NET (204.214.10.118) 124.700 ms 126.901 ms 127.049 ms
14 applink-gw.nkn.net (204.214.9.90) 130.166 ms 132.453 ms 129.825 ms
15 beta.hitechcreations.com (206.149.40.141) 132.529 ms 132.392 ms *
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err... whoops. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) That's from work. 768k ADSL at home, so it'll be a little worse, but not much.
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Hey Brick or anyone else that uses ADSL..just wondering how the speed is on them, im currently about to dump my cable connect for ADSL. Is it worth it?
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Yummie, Sascha!
hmm, nacamar - do they have a flat rate for
private users? I'm currently using the DM24,-
per month flat rate of xlink.
Dancer out.
PS: Do they have a pop in the city tarif of
Mülheim an der Ruhr?
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Xlink? Never heared of them..Do the DM 24/month include phone charges?
Not sure about nacamar, like I said: That route is from my place of work in Nürnberg.
I am currently using freenet from my home PC (yuck!) since I ll prolly be moving pretty soon and don't wanna commit myself to one ISP at this time.
I still have a nacamar account though, through RMC in Munich. It was a pretty fast connection costing about DM 39 a month flat plus phone charges (but that was 2 yrs ago). Speaking of which: It's about time I got rid of that old acount.. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sascha
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Neotrace is great software but it's forced me to cold reboot twice now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Lt. Jg. Windle
VF-17 (http://chani.arrakis-ttm.com/warbirds/jollyroger/) 'The Jolly Rogers' 8X
Skychrgr@aol.com
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=== VisualRoute (tm) 4.0c report on 17.9.1999 01:34:15 ===
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Report for www.hitechcreations.com (http://www.hitechcreations.com) [206.149.40.141]
Analysis: Node 'www.hitechcreations.com' was found in 23 hops (TTL=238). But, the node is losing packets. It is a HTTP server (running
Apache/1.3.3 (Unix)).
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| Hop | Err | IP Address | Node Name | Location | ms | Graph |
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| 0 | | 197.0.0.2 | - | * | | |
| 1 | | 197.0.0.1 | - | ?Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695 | 1 | x |
| 2 | | 195.179.172.26 | CVX1-fe1.Hamburg.is-bone.net | Hamburg, Germany | 45 | x |
| 3 | | 195.179.172.30 | BB7-fe0-0.Hamburg.is-bone.net | Hamburg, Germany | 49 | x |
| 4 | | 195.179.50.149 | BB4-s5-0-0.Hamburg.is-bone.net | Hamburg, Germany | 50 | x |
| 5 | | 194.64.0.102 | BB1-pos0-0-0.Koeln.is-bone.net | Koeln, Germany | 54 | x |
| 6 | | 194.64.0.106 | BB1-pos6-0-0.Frankfurt.is-bone.net | Frankfurt, Germany | 56 | x- |
| 7 | | 195.180.3.102 | BB2-fe6-0-0.Frankfurt.is-bone.net | Frankfurt, Germany | 60 | x- |
| 8 | | 195.16.161.137 | s10-1-0.london2-cr1.bbnplanet.net | London, UK | 71 | x- |
| 9 | | 195.16.160.66 | p0-0-0.london2-cr2.bbnplanet.net | London, UK | 73 | x- |
| 10 | | 4.0.5.133 | p2-2.nyc4-nbr2.bbnplanet.net | New York, NY, USA | 144 | x |
| 11 | | 4.0.3.121 | p2-1.chicago1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net | Chicago, IL, USA | 154 | x |
| 12 | | 4.0.5.89 | p10-0-0.chicago1-br1.bbnplanet.net | Chicago, IL, USA | 152 | x |
| 13 | | 129.250.9.57 | bbn.ord2.verio.net | Chicago, IL, USA | 157 | x |
| 14 | | 129.250.3.138 | ord2.stl1.verio.net | St. Louis, MO, USA | 162 | x |
| 15 | | 129.250.2.213 | stl1.stl0.verio.net | St. Louis, MO, USA | 165 | x |
| 16 | | 129.250.2.29 | stl0.mkc1.verio.net | - | 218 | x |
| 17 | | 129.250.2.5 | mkc1.mkc0.verio.net | - | 223 | x |
| 18 | | 129.250.2.217 | mkc0.dfw3.verio.net | Fort Worth, TX, USA | 230 | x |
| 19 | | 129.250.31.53 | vtxs0.dfw.verio.net | Fort Worth, TX, USA | 230 | x |
| 20 | | 199.1.141.3 | border9-fa5-1-0.dlls.tx.verio.net | - | 237 | x |
| 21 | | 204.214.10.118 | BORDER10-SE12-0-0.DLLS.TX.VERIO.NET | - | 228 | x |
| 22 | | 204.214.9.90 | applink-gw.nkn.net | - | 260 | -x----- |
| 23 | 1 | 206.149.40.141 | www.hitechcreations.com (http://www.hitechcreations.com) | ?Grapevine, TX 76099 | 225 | x |
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IS and Netsurf are both using the same net and have a exellent connection to USA
Windle, you may try Visualroute, i love this proggie.
www.visualroute.com (http://www.visualroute.com)
Lemsko
Windle, you may try
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Figures you'ld be on verio. I just closed an acct with them :-(
But In doing so I gained an ADSL connect, and for whoever was asking earlier, its great. Of course I'm local to Dallas, but my ping is avg 25ms
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Sam "Breeze" West
Royal Knights 123rd TFW
XO ~RK^ A Guerre!
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=LEM=
So what do you do about the missing packets, and how do you tell where there being dropped with Visual Route,
AND HOW DO YOU FIX THEM?
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"I could feel the 20MM Cannon impacting behind me so I made myself small behind the pilot armor" Charlie Bond AVG
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>>So what do you do about the missing packets, and how do you tell where there being dropped with Visual Route,
That's the bain of every on line gamer. Once a packet is dropped, it's gone. The best thing you can do is if you have excessive packet loss, either complain to your ISP or change ISPs.
Crazy
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Forget all the nitty gritty details.
Just answer the main question:
Where in the world do the lost packets *go* fer christ's sake?
Isn't there some software like airlines have for finding missing luggage that we can use?
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Glars
RNZAF
http://glarsmaps.warbirds.org (http://glarsmaps.warbirds.org)
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Once a packet is droped it's not always gone.
Ping's use UDP for testing purpose so that they can monitor line integrety allong with transmition times.UDP packets are not retransmited or acknoldged by the reciever so they can be lost. How UDP packets get droped is normaly do to an overloaded router. When more data is comming into the router than it can send out it has to do somthing so they just toss the packets out.
With TCP, packets will always be delivered (withing resone) but they can arive a tad late. What happens in TCP is the reciever of a packet always send an acknoldgement back to the sender. If the sender dosnt recieve an ack with in a specific period of time it retransmits the original until it recieves an ack.
HiTech
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Hi Lemsko !
I always remember Your bombing lessons
to us for JG-3 (bomber-dweeb), oh great
times up there !
Best regards to You!
Janne <janneh> Hakala