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Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Krusher on July 02, 2003, 01:04:30 PM
Its a early report, But it looks like we will (the US) be sending Peace Keepers to Liberia
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: john9001 on July 02, 2003, 01:09:24 PM
no blood for Liberia

Liberia is no way threat to USA, it's just ridicules

does france approve of this illeagle invasion of a sovergin nation
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Curval on July 02, 2003, 01:14:57 PM
Hey Krusher.

Yea, I saw that.  Damn fine show chaps....if you do go I will be right there with you guys on this BBS using this as an example of US involvement in a situation that does NOT involve oil or a direct terrorist threat.

I you.
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: osage on July 02, 2003, 01:47:10 PM
Liberia was founded by "repatriated" freed slaves from the U.S.

It became a big Firestone rubber plantation and a cheap/corrupt place to register ships.

It still has strong U.S. ties.
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Dago on July 02, 2003, 01:50:48 PM
Why dont we send GScholz, he seems to think he has all the military answers?  

During the Iraq combat, he came on this board judging the tactics used by the US.

Oh I forgot, he ia a poser, who claims to have experience, when all he can point to is a massacre of innocents he was not involved in, and didnt stop even though it happened "on his watch".

I can't strongly enough state my opinion that we (the USA) are NOT the worlds police force, and we have no responsibility to involve ourselves.  Let any one of the many arrogant countries in Europe step in, quite frankly we are busy enough with our current military affairs, dealing with situations that did have direct concerns to our own national security.

Dago
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: ra on July 02, 2003, 02:01:20 PM
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....if you do go I will be right there with you guys on this BBS using this as an example of US involvement in a situation that does NOT involve oil or a direct terrorist threat.

Pick up a history book if you want more examples.  The 'war for oil' slogan is just bogus.
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: -dead- on July 02, 2003, 02:49:05 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Hey Krusher.

Yea, I saw that.  Damn fine show chaps....if you do go I will be right there with you guys on this BBS using this as an example of US involvement in a situation that does NOT involve oil or a direct terrorist threat.

I you.
Hehe that's right Liberia has no connection with oil... Well, except for this. (http://www.usmm.org/socalships.html)
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: osage on July 02, 2003, 03:14:00 PM
At least 30% of the ships in the world are Liberian registered.

It's a so-called "flag of convenience."

Want a Liberian terror link?

It wouldn't surprise me if Osama Bin Laden were hiding on a Liberian registered vessel at this moment.

http://www.us-flag.org/housmemfocon.html
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: -dead- on July 02, 2003, 10:20:25 PM
Here's a better Liberian Registry funding terrorism link:
Liberia: Blood on the Flag (http://www.itf.org.uk/TI/ti7/english/2.htm)
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: osage on July 02, 2003, 10:25:14 PM
So your point, dead, is that the U.S. is just after oil in taking action to quell chaos there?
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: -dead- on July 03, 2003, 06:05:38 AM
Noo my point is you can link Liberia to oil if you want to - if you can't, you're just not using enough initiative. :D

It would certainly be advantageous to oil and shipping companies to have Liberia back as a non pariah country, because then they have a cheap registry that's prepared to look the other way over things like ownership/liability as well as possibly classification and manning issues. Last but not least, insurance claims are hard to obtain for foreigners, which is a bonus if your tanker has just spilt its guts out over a coastline. I doubt that's the sole reason for it, though. Good strategic position to have a base is a good reason, and diamonds might help too. Mostly I think it's a PR exercise partly to avoid looking like it was just about the oil in Iraq and partly to take everyone's mind off the continued fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. But I've always been a bit of a cynic.
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Curval on July 03, 2003, 06:18:54 AM
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Originally posted by -dead-
Noo my point is you can link Liberia to oil if you want to - if you can't, you're just not using enough initiative. :D


lol..:)
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Eagler on July 03, 2003, 07:26:47 AM
not oil this time ... just their women LOL
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Naso on July 03, 2003, 09:03:25 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
not oil this time ... just their women LOL


Shoe me the proof, and I mean ... I want a phisical proof!!!!!

:)
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Monk on July 03, 2003, 11:23:06 AM
We need to stay out of there. Not good at all.
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Scootter on July 03, 2003, 12:18:37 PM
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Originally posted by -dead-
Noo my point is you can link Liberia to oil if you want to - if you can't, you're just not using enough initiative. :D

It would certainly be advantageous to oil and shipping companies to have Liberia back as a non pariah country, because then they have a cheap registry that's prepared to look the other way over things like ownership/liability as well as possibly classification and manning issues. Last but not least, insurance claims are hard to obtain for foreigners, which is a bonus if your tanker has just spilt its guts out over a coastline. I doubt that's the sole reason for it, though. Good strategic position to have a base is a good reason, and diamonds might help too. Mostly I think it's a PR exercise partly to avoid looking like it was just about the oil in Iraq and partly to take everyone's mind off the continued fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. But I've always been a bit of a cynic.


Dead,    If I use a lot of initiative I can link my beer cooler to oil, ever play the Kevin Bacon game.

I do think you are strertching it a bit though, keep looking I'm sure you will find evil in the US in anything it does.
Title: Curval -Liberia
Post by: Eagler on July 03, 2003, 12:45:33 PM
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Originally posted by Monk
We need to stay out of there. Not good at all.


yep

there's a civilization level line we should not cross - that place ain't reached it yet