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Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: swoopy on July 02, 2003, 02:07:37 PM
12th and 13th July

heres the plane list so far

Flying Legends Air Show - Aircraft Participants
Saturday 12 and Sunday 13 July
Hurricane x 3
Corsair x 3
Spitfire x 12    ------ 12 eeek:)
Gladiator
Bristol Fighter x 2
Firefly
Yak 3 x 2
BBMF Dakota, Spitfire & Hurricane
Blenheim
P-51 Mustang x 7
LA9 Lavochkin
B-17 Flying Fortress, Sally B
A-26
Junkers 52
Me 108
B-25 Mitchell
Jungmeister
TF-51 Mustang
P-40 Kitty Hawk
P-47 Thunderbolt
Bearcat
Hellcat
Wildcat
Tigercat
1930's Nimrod

cya there peeps :)
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Tarmac on July 02, 2003, 02:10:21 PM
Was there last year.  Freakin amazing.  You guys on that side of the pond sure know how to put on an airshow.  And how to run an air museum, too.  

Still trying to get all my pictures from that airshow scanned :D
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 02, 2003, 02:32:54 PM
Probably definitely going. It was amazing to see the Yaks flying a couple of years ago - but that flying La-9 will be awesome.

Tarmac, they are building an all new American Air Museum hangar there to replace the current one - it's supposed to be much bigger. Which is saying something, considering the current one has a B52 and a B17 in it :):

(http://www.iwm.org.uk/duxford/american/images/aamlayout.gif)
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Tarmac on July 02, 2003, 02:49:03 PM
A new one besides the current tapered-hangar thingie with the glass memorial panes around it?

Where will it go?

When I was there, it looked like they were remodelling the current one by replacing the main glass face.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 02, 2003, 02:55:34 PM
Strange. I'm sure I saw plans for an extended building at some point, but I can't find any info about it on their website.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Tarmac on July 02, 2003, 03:12:00 PM
I remember the current building being hyped as "new" in the brochures when I was there.  Could have been old brochures, or it could have been recently built.  It's been there a couple of years... I remember one of my friends describing it to me 3 or 4 years ago.  

But it'd be nice if they'd make it a bit bigger, so you could walk between the planes and really look at them.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Hortlund on July 02, 2003, 03:20:06 PM
From just looking at Dowdings picture.

1 - ?
2 - ?
3 - ?
4 - B24
5 - P51
6 - C47
7 - B17
8 - P47
9 - ?
10 - B29
11 - A20
12 - SR71
13 - B52
14 - U2
16 - UH1
17 - F4
18 - F14
19 - A10
20 - wtf?


Soo...what did I miss?
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 02, 2003, 03:24:48 PM
Very good! No. 20 was pretty impossible if you haven't been there and don't know anything about field ambulances. :D

1.   Spad S-13 (r, s)
 2.   Boeing Stearman PT-17 (s)
 3.   North American AT-6D Texan (s)
 4.   Consolidated B-24M Liberator
 5.   North American P-51D Mustang (r)
 6.   Douglas C-47 Skytrain (s)
 7.   Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress
 8.   Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
 9.   Grumman TBM-3 Avenger (s)
10.  Boeing B-29A Superfortress
11.  North American B-25J Mitchell (s)
12.  Lockheed SR-71A Blackbird
13.  Boeing B-52D Stratofortress
14.  Lockheed U2-C (s)
15.  North American F-100D Super Sabre (s)
16.  Bell UH-1 Huey
17.  McDonnell Douglas F-4J Phantom II
18.  General Dynamics F-111E
19.  Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II (s)
20.  Dodge T214-WC54 Ambulance
21.  Ford M718 MUTT Ambulance
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Tarmac on July 02, 2003, 03:48:06 PM
Trying to find a good picture of the glass memorial at the American Air Museum... anyone see one?
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 02, 2003, 03:52:25 PM
No. But my bro (Swoopy) and I will probably be going and we will have a digital camera - I'll take a few snaps.

Trying to decide whether take my dad and surprise him with gold passes to the display.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: midnight Target on July 02, 2003, 04:22:33 PM
12  Spits!!

The Bish will be there?
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: qts on July 02, 2003, 06:10:37 PM
I hope to be there on the Sunday.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Animal on July 02, 2003, 06:13:17 PM
No P-38? LOL WHAT A CRAPPY AIRSHOW
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: midnight Target on July 02, 2003, 06:36:38 PM
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1930's Nimrod


This is the July picture on my Ghosts Calendar. I'm wondering what a Nimrod means to you all in GB, cause I would hate to be called a Nimrod here in the States.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: swoopy on July 03, 2003, 12:42:29 AM
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Originally posted by Animal
No P-38? LOL WHAT A CRAPPY AIRSHOW


we burned them all cause they weighed less than a duck


and when they are all in the air at the same time at the end of the show is amazing:eek:
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Tarmac on July 03, 2003, 03:19:36 AM
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Originally posted by swoopy
and when they are all in the air at the same time at the end of the show is amazing:eek:


But they have to call it a "balbo," which is the dumbest word ever.  


She turned me into a newt!:D
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: mjolnir on July 03, 2003, 04:33:51 AM
Swoopy, Dowding, Athena and I'll be looking for you guys.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Naso on July 03, 2003, 04:54:35 AM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
But they have to call it a "balbo," which is the dumbest word ever.  
 


Balbo is a name.

Italo Balbo.

The founder of Italian Air Force as a separate force from the Army.

He organized massive ocean crossing cruises with formation of many (20-30) S.55 idro planes.

They used to start the trip with a massive formation passage over the crowd.

Here the reason for "Balbo" name.

Here is some link (in english)

http://www.pilotfriend.com/century-of-flight/Aviation%20history/pathfinders/Italo%20Balboa.htm

http://www.aviationboom.com/pioneers/italo_balbo.shtml

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0805857.html

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Savoia/Aero62.htm
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 03, 2003, 05:03:09 AM
We should be going on the saturday, mjolnir. It depends whether our dad can swap shifts and get the day off - we want to surprise him with a gold pass. :)
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: gatso on July 03, 2003, 05:05:41 AM
<-- going if the weather is good and something doesn't come up between now and then.

Gatso
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: midnight Target on July 03, 2003, 09:30:27 AM
So?

What the heck is a Nimrod?
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: funkedup on July 03, 2003, 09:34:19 AM
IT R TEH U!
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 03, 2003, 10:00:54 AM
Nimrod was a biblical character, the creator of Babel.

The RAF currently has a plane called the Nimrod in its inventory. It is used in the maritime reconaissance role; there were plans to develop a variant that was to be used in the C3 role, but the RAF bought the E3 AWACS system. I dug this up.

"NIMROD MR2

The Nimrod was designed to replace the aging Shackleton maritime reconnaissance aircraft of Strike Command. The design of the aircraft began in June 1964 with government authority to peoceed being given a year later. The aircraft first entered service in 1969.

Based substantially on the basic airframe of the Hawker Siddley (De Havilland) Comet 4C, the Nimrod was a new build production aircraft with a shorter, modified pressure fuselage. The addition of a 52 foot long weapons and operational eqipment bay under the main fuselage gives the aircraft its unique shape and its claim to have the b iggest bomb bay in NATO. Nimrod is powered by 4 Rolls Royce Spey turbofan engines with enlarged air intakes to allow for greater mass flow.

This revolutionary design for a maritime patrol aircraft was to combine the advantages of a high altitude and fast transit speed with a low wing loading and good low level maoeuvrability.

the aircraft's main role, in peacetime, is Search and Rescue and the RAF maintains an aircraft and crew on 24hr standby 365 days a year. In its more aggressive role, Nimrod is renowned worldwide for its Anti-Submarine Warfare capabilities, surface surveillance and anti shipping roles and can carry a variety of stores including the Stingray torpedo, the Harpoon anti-ship missile and the Sidewinder infra-red missile for self defence. The aircraft can also carry its own chaff/flare suite for decoying incoming missiles. Nimrod has seen service all over the world and played a pivotal role in the Falklands War, The Gulf War and the imposition of UN Sanctions in the Adriatic.

LEADING PARTICULARS

Overall Length 129' 1" 39.35 m
Wing Span 114' 10" 35.00 m
Height 29' 8.5" 9.08 m
Maximum Take-off Weight 177,500 lb 80,510 kg
Range (unrefuelled) in excess of 5000nm  

The Nimrod MR2 has been outstandingly successful in service for the last 25 years, but its systems are becoming increasingly obsolete. A new weapons system is needed to enable the next generation of submarines to be located. On the 25th July 1996, the UK Government announced that the RMPA (Replacement Maritime Patrol Aircraft) contract had been won by the Nimrod MRA4.

The Nimrod MRA4 will have state of the art two man flight deck using the latest generation of comercial and military technologies.

NIMROD MRA4

Principle features of the Nimrod MRA4 are:

Totally new mssion system
New BMW Rolls Royce BR710 engines
Complete new wing
New undercarriage
New general systems ( Hydraulics, Fuel, Electrics etc )
Completely new cockpit with Seven Screen Electronic Flight Instrument System"

(http://www.kinloss-raf.co.uk/gallery/inflight/images/KIN0732G07-01.jpg)

(http://www.kinloss-raf.co.uk/gallery/inflight/images/kin-03-047-output-unclass-101.jpg)

Happy now? :)
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: midnight Target on July 03, 2003, 10:20:23 AM
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Happy now?


Yea ya Nimrod.

:D
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: gatso on July 03, 2003, 10:35:58 AM
Cept thats not the one thats going to be at Flying Legends, the one owned by TFC at Duxford is  :)

Hawker Nimrod: http://www.fighter-collection.com/nimrod/
(http://www.fighter-collection.com/nimrod/img/nimrod_01.jpg)

Gatso
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: midnight Target on July 03, 2003, 10:37:40 AM
Thats the one on my Calendar.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Replicant on July 03, 2003, 10:41:35 AM
Heh, Gatso, beat me with exactly the same image! :)

As for the American Museum, they're not replacing that one, they're making Hangar 1 larger.  Hangar 1 is the one with Concorde, Lancaster, Ju52, Sunderland, Vulcan, Mossie etc., and many others in.

I'm not sure if I'm attending Flying Legends.  I had been a member of the 'Friend's of Duxford' which allow you access to inside of quite a few aircraft on display.  Within the American Hangar I managed to climb inside the B52, F111, F4 Phantom, Huey UH1, B17G and peer inside the SR71.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Athena3 on July 03, 2003, 03:27:10 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
We should be going on the saturday, mjolnir. It depends whether our dad can swap shifts and get the day off - we want to surprise him with a gold pass. :)


Cool, just look for the young American looking couple (early 20s).  We should stand out, we'll probably be the only ones wearing blue jeans. :)
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Furball on July 03, 2003, 03:41:45 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
... and its claim to have the biggest bomb bay in NATO


Didn't know that, is it bigger than a B-52's?
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: mjolnir on July 07, 2003, 07:30:04 AM
The B-52 bay isn't all that large, actually.  The B-1 has a much bigger internal capacity.  So the real question is, is the Nimrod's bay bigger than the B-1's?  For reference, the B-1b can carry up to 84 500 lb dumb bombs, or 24 2,000 lb JDAMs on rotary launchers.


By the way, Gold Passes are in hand for Saturday, look forward to meeting some of you guys there.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: mjolnir on July 11, 2003, 02:16:09 AM
Bumped as a last reminder.  Looking forward to it.
Title: Flying Legends at Duxford....
Post by: Dowding on July 11, 2003, 02:40:27 AM
Heya mate. We should be going, but not with gold passes unfortunately. Swoopy is a skin-flint. :)