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Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Sandman on July 03, 2003, 11:17:48 AM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=46230
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: funkedup on July 03, 2003, 11:51:51 AM
Holy Crap.
Forsberg, Sakic, Hejduk, Blake, Tanguay, and now Selänne and Kariya?
If Aebischer plays even average in net, they will win another cup or two.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Dune on July 03, 2003, 12:51:19 PM
Egads.  Well, they'd damn well better win the Cup with that team.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Soda on July 03, 2003, 01:23:07 PM
At least now the teams who were fighting to get into the playoffs might get in.  Instead of losing to the Ducks and the Avs, now you only get blown away by the Av's 10-0 and probably beat the Ducks.  That 2 points won and 2 lost vs losing all 4.

Just wait, Joseph will be in Colorado next.  I can see it now "Hey Cujo, we signed Hasek again so you are the backup now.  You of course could wave your no-trade clause and we could send you to the Av's... yeah, they have more offense than half the league combined".

Too bad for the Ducks fans though... Stanley Cup finals one year, nobody you can even recognize the next.  The league should be embarassed for letting, actually promoting, the pilfering of a team like the Ducks by the Av's.

-Soda
The Assassins.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Wlfgng on July 03, 2003, 01:25:22 PM
hate to agree.. but I have to.

we NEED parity in the league NOW

(the Av's are gonna kick butt)
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: funkedup on July 03, 2003, 01:39:39 PM
Yep Sharks had a fire sale too, despite selling out every game for years.  I'd hate to see the NHL become like baseball, where the highest bidder wins.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Wlfgng on July 03, 2003, 01:46:17 PM
who'd they sell?
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: funkedup on July 03, 2003, 01:51:44 PM
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
who'd they sell?


They made a series of salary dumping trades from midseason onward.  New owners are cheap.  First they won't pay Nabby and Stuart and then they get rid of the two best players on the team for salary reasons.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Soda on July 03, 2003, 01:59:30 PM
The whole direction of the game is poor though and it might get worse.  this just proves that the "Haves" managed to scam a guy like Kariya out of the Ducks and not even have to trade for him in prospects/cash/draft picks.  Teams like the Ducks/Pens will simply become farm teams for the teams with richer markets and owners (not that it hasn't been at least a little bit this way already).  The Pens are a laughing stock anyway.

Now, the league is talking about cleaning up the game too, making it more open for the talent to shine (name the last time someone had 140 points?).  So, a guy like Sakic, Kariya, Selanne, etc comes out and might each get 120 points for the Av's.. crazy.  The Av's didn't need that, the Ducks/Sharks did.

What a shame... just imagine a team like the Wild.  They rely on a tight defensive style to contain offensive teams, a couple of talented guys to get key goals, and the hard-work of a host of cast-offs from other teams.  The league will effectively end the defensive style, make the valuable guys bait for "Have" teams to take away at will, and leave a group of hard-working but overpowered veterans for fans to watch get punished each night.

-Soda
The Assassins.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: sling322 on July 03, 2003, 02:10:18 PM
Dude I would give you Cujo for a donut after his performance in last year's playoffs.  Never did like the guy much and he has always been known for not showing up in the playoffs.  He killed the Wings last year.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Wlfgng on July 03, 2003, 02:12:09 PM
Hockey is the most fun sport to watch IMO.

salary caps next year should help a lot.
it's one thing they could learn from the NFL.

as for hard-work, I agree Soda.  Nothing more impressive than to watch hard workin over acheivers.

I have to admit I hate it when the Av's sit back and try to use pure talent (read show-off) instead of just working hard and as a team.  when  they work hard I'm proud of them regardless.

as shown last year, top players do not a team make.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: midnight Target on July 03, 2003, 02:41:40 PM
Disney is still trying to dump the Ducks... great move:rolleyes:
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: sling322 on July 03, 2003, 04:10:47 PM
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Originally posted by TW9
I've heard Cujo for Martin Lapointe was being discussed..


I would do that deal.  I love Marty Lapointe.  He was a tough little bastage when he played with the Wings before.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Soda on July 03, 2003, 04:20:54 PM
I suspect Cujo will go to the Av's for nada, maybe a draft pick or some cash.  Remember, the Wings have to convince Cujo to remove his no-trade clause and the only way he will likely do that it to be traded to a contender.  The Av's are certainly that and I suspect Cujo could be pretty easily moved there with little fuss.  The Av's probably don't want to pick up his salary though, at least not all of it, so would probably either get some $$ from the Wings to cover part of it, or dump someone they didn't want any more just to free up a couple of bucks.

If Disney wanted to sell the Ducks they should have done it before they gutted the team.

I can't wait to see a Av's vs Penguins game.. that poor rookie Pens goalie might be shell shocked at the end of it.

-Soda
The Assassins.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Wlfgng on July 03, 2003, 05:17:57 PM
local word is that the Av's want to give Abby a chance first...

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I can't wait to see a Av's vs Penguins game.. that poor rookie Pens goalie might be shell shocked at the end of it.

that was spew material soda :)  lol    
poor pens.. (my ex gf's team so you can imagine I'm all broken up about it!)
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Soda on July 03, 2003, 05:18:49 PM
I was in Denver the night the Av's were eliminated and I can tell you that it is a BIG hockey city.  It surprised the hell out of me, I was at a conference there, but the day after they were eliminated it was the topic of every conversation the locals had.  I live in a Canadian Hockey town and Denver has hockey-mania.

Hasek is signed, he is coming back.  He's said it, the Wings have said it, and even Cujo's agent has said it.  So, that makes it imperritive to trade Cujo (he isn't exactly a fan favorite after the bad playoff last year).  So, Cujo has a no-trade clause he will have to waive, which, means he gets to basically pick where he will get traded to (or he'll not waive the clause).  So, the Rangers are out.  Not enough oxygen left in the dressing room for anyone else and they are not a contender (except for head-cases of the year).  The Bruins, I like the talent they have, but I don't think they are quite ready yet (and ownership there is kinda weird at playing hardball sometimes).  So, he'd likely veto that deal too.  But then there is the Av's, stacked with talent 3 lines deep, and basically must get a goalie of the Cujo calibre (I'm not a Cujo fan, i think he's overhyped but decent in big games).  It only makes sense that if you put that option to Cujo he'd see CUP written all over it and waive his no-trade clause.

I think it'll happen, Detroit might even pick up a part of his tab in order so that they don't end up picking up the whole 8 million/year for their backup goalie.  I mean, who wouldn't want to be the goalie in Denver this year?  Foote, Blake, etc watching the blueline.  Sakic, Forsberg, Kariya, Selanne, Hejduk, etc up front.  The worst position on the Av's team will be 4th line center... you'll get a total of 2 minutes of ice-time a night.  May as well just have "fan-appreciation" day and dress the entire 4th line from people in the crowd... none of them will see any ice time unless they need a fighter to take on someone.

-Soda
The Assassins.
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: Wlfgng on July 03, 2003, 05:33:25 PM
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I live in a Canadian Hockey town and Denver has hockey-mania.


yepp.. even way the hell up here it gets pretty intense during hockey season.

hell, some of the best amateurs in the state live here and some are women :)  (Mother Puckers have won many state titles)
Title: That sucking sound in Anaheim
Post by: SunKing on July 03, 2003, 06:04:01 PM
Looks like we Shark fans are in for it. And you bangwagon jumping Duck fans.