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Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 04, 2003, 09:34:43 AM
Alright, I've been goin nuts tryin to figure out what's wrong, and MS won't give me any tech support! So, I came here to ask if you have any ideas..

I got this stick 3-4 months ago, has worked fine since then, and now about 3 days ago I start playing AH, hop in a field gun, then grab the stick. Suddenly i lose control of my gun and start spinnin around uncontrollably, i check AH joy settings, see it isnt responding, look in windows (control panel>gaming options) and my stick isnt even in the list, so i reboot, check the list, it's back there. Go into the game, hop into a plane and grab my stick, throttle up and i start floppin around ont he tarmac. I groan, check it again, and it's gone.

Now every time i try and use it, the stick is undetected for some odd reason, i've checked the USB ports and those are okay, i've reinstalled the software, tried running it without the software but no changes whatsoever.

Any ideas? this stick is almost brand new :(

(Edit) Win98SE
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Estes on July 04, 2003, 09:58:10 AM
What version windows?
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Mini D on July 04, 2003, 10:08:02 AM
Are you plugging the joystick directly into a USB port or are you using a 4:1 adapter and plugging it into that?

MiniD
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 04, 2003, 10:11:27 AM
Directly into USB, unplugged, replugged, unplugged rebooted replugged. made sure there was no dust in the ports..

I'm boggled :confused:
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Mini D on July 04, 2003, 10:17:34 AM
The nice thing about port splitters is that they give you a "ready" and "Connected" indicator.

It sounds like your losing the USB connection.  I have no idea why that would be happening with the port on the back of the computer.

I assume you've also tried both ports?  Also... do you have a cat (Check the cord).  And with those two ideas... I'm tapped out.

MiniD
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 04, 2003, 12:34:20 PM
I've tried both sockets, the ports themselves are okay, adn the joystick seems okay untill I move it (even then it'll work for a half a second or so).. about 5 minutes ago the 'new hardware detected' prompt came up for seemingly no reason, stick was displayed, didnt touch anything and poof, all is lost again.

*lol*  I have a cat :p  But the cords are okay..

I do remember one time the cat came barreling through (chasing invisible things) and tripped over the cord.. but that was weeks ago. (The cat's okay ;) )
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Mini D on July 04, 2003, 12:43:55 PM
Sounds like a lose connection or a grounding problem or possibly static.  Does just touching it for a few seconds cause a problem... or do you have to move it?

MiniD
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 04, 2003, 12:52:29 PM
Well I havent rebooted or gotten a connection enough to tell, but so far it seems to be me moving it. I've had it in my lap and it was alright, but then i moved the trottle a bit and down it goes.
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Mini D on July 04, 2003, 03:56:48 PM
Sounds like a freyed wire or a broken wire held together by its shielding.  Unless you're in the mood to tear the stick apart, it may be time to look for another one to replace it.

MiniD
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 05, 2003, 04:50:37 AM


Time to go break it even worse.
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 05, 2003, 05:59:04 AM
Joystick, meet wall. *BAM BAM CRUNCH!*

End of that.

Will suspend my account till i'm in some sort of financial position to buy another.
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 05, 2003, 06:22:06 AM
Ohh, any suggestions for new stick? somethin low-maintainence preferably.. Know nothin about replacing/cleaning pots.
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Ghosth on July 05, 2003, 08:17:23 AM
Been there twice Rutilant.

First time was 5 months, 2nd was 3 months.

Suspect a weak wire in the cord from stick to usb.

Or it got a crimp, etc in it causing it to short someplace.

I got extended warrenty so they replaced both of mine.

Should try taking it back where you got it.

Think all MS sticks come with 1 year warrentee.
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: Rutilant on July 05, 2003, 11:27:25 AM
Got it online, tried to send it back but, "my product ID code is not valid in this country"

So i'll just go get another one.
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: 38ruk on July 08, 2003, 03:36:07 PM
was your usb port sharing an IRQ with your nic card ,sound card or video card?
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: streetstang on July 10, 2003, 12:44:00 AM
Ok, I have the iddentical joystick, two actually and ended up buying an X45 also. The prob with the MS Prec 2 is for some reason if you keep the stick plugged in for an extended period of time, which I did, it will just lose its connection. I have no idea what the reason is for this but some have told me its due to a small amount of corrosion on the USB plug... Maybe so, in any case, getting back to my story. I was past my warrenty on the first one and could not wait to get the "Broken" one fixed so I just went out and bought another one. Now, all was well and everything was working GREAT then all of the sudden about two weeks later, the dam thing just stopped working again; THE NEW ONE... So I said let me try the old one and maybe it will work. Plugged the dam thing in and BINGO!!! It worked just fine.
     I went through all the same things you did, calling MS and all the basic software checks ect. Nothing fixed the prob and nothing was wrong with any one of those issues. If there is any good advise I can give you it would be that when you walk away from the game be it for a night or day or just an hour, unplug the stick and set it to the side. Once you are ready to play again just plug it back in. I can say I havent had this same problem with my X45 but it sure did help me with the MS Prec. 2.
   I hope some of this helps you. Trust me its not your stick, your cable, connection, software or anythign of the sort. Its just some weird quwark that is fixed just my simply unplugging the stick and not leaving it plugged in for an extended period of time.
<<>> Jeffer
Title: Sidewinder Precision2 Issues..
Post by: gatso on July 10, 2003, 06:49:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ghosth
Think all MS sticks come with 1 year warrentee.


3Y, at least my PP2 did.

Gatso