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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 04, 2003, 07:19:14 PM
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So ... you are not Frenchy enought? You get shot down a couple of time and you already give up a couple of days into the contest?
Well ... all I can say is that IT IS MY CONTEST ... and I do whatever I want :D ... and in my book perseverance may be as valuable as ubber flying skills. :p
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I predict the winner of the Frenchy award will be someone who has alot of free time on their hands and doesn't mind using speed. ;)
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Let me see if I read this right....
So if I die multiple horrible deaths at the hands of gangbangers and land only one or two, I could still be in the running?
I'm in :D
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Yep Nomde, sounds like a typical tour for me. :p
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So I must truly be the front runner then seeing as I have died to Frenchy over and over and over. :D
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I'd say that a guy like Bustr, who will still do his best and go for the 100 kills despite a huge nb of deaths ... someone with such a good competitive spirit, should not go un-noticed :cool:
So ... some of you should really not give up:)
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Frenchy it sounds like you have a runner-up prize in store :eek: ...god bless the poor soul that wins that! ;)
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Who is this Frenchy and why am I attracted to him?
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Ze iz ze accent Stringer.
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it's his jug your attracted too .... like p-38's ... they're just downright sexy :D
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Well Frenchy, if you count me getting discoed 2 times when flying the P47 because once I went to talk on squad channel I got booted, than I dunno dude. Right now I have 15 kills and 5 deaths.
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Reach 100 kills then we can talk :)
for now I have like 15 kills
1 death due to a 1 on 1 with Wilburz
2 death to 88mm
1 disco
1 or 2 death to three guys diving on me from 20k ignoring the 15 friendly chasing them. (the kill the D25s doing the contest shyndrome)
hehehe see? You are not doing that bad:p
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who has the highest k/d ratio right now?>
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Last I heard ManeTMP had over 100 kills with only 1 death. Guys like him (and there are plenty) are the reason I wouldn't/didn't even try...
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It really gives the non veteran's no chance what so ever...I'm using my dad's name blueice right now and I'm doing alright, I have I think 30 kills and 6 deaths - 3 which should not be accounted for. I think when Frenchy said it's his award, I'm sure he'll take something like that into consideration.
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Just checked ManeTMP's score - now is 110 Kills with only 1 death.
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I wont win it, but think the contest is a cool idea.
to be killed is as frenchy said a thing that happens and alot (for me) but its fun to try a plane i hardly flown before.
I will fly the jug this tour as a primary ride (fu4-4 somthimes)
I have never flown only 1 aircraft for a whole tour, because I never able to make up my mind for what plane :)
this tour its a little more easy.
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I'm waiting for a Ki-61 contest.
I tried the P-47D25 but decided it was just too much of a pig for my style.
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Originally posted by HeLLcAt
Just checked ManeTMP's score - now is 110 Kills with only 1 death.
7 days into the contest and its already too late for me to have a chance.
Ok, back to the Ki-61 and F4U-1 then. :D
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Trola has definitly the right attitude.
Gofaster, 10bears ... definitly not the right attitude:D
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Originally posted by HeLLcAt
Just checked ManeTMP's score - now is 110 Kills with only 1 death.
so he can cherry pick in the masses.....:o
une pute de l'aire.....:D
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Trola has definitly the right attitude.
Gofaster, 10bears ... definitly not the right attitude:D
great idea
maybe HTC takes idea and runs with it ...
a different plane for special tours, say every fourth or 6th month, just to keep MA interesting :)
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I'm already seeing a number of benifits from flying this "Pig" that will translate back to every other plane in AH.
Because I no longer have the arrogent Lavochkin, Pony, or Spit mindset, I'm paying a lot more attention to everything I do. Please accept this comment as a knock only on myself. I'm seeing now just how lousy I am at flying those planes.
I think this is a Frenchy Sneeky on all of us who have agreed to fly the D-25. Like he said to me a week ago. I will be an overall better pilot for this experience. I probebly won't win this contest, but a bunch of you who are non-Knights are gonna see me on your tails before the contest is over.
Thennnnn,,I'll wave hello as you reverse me and blow my kester off--:D
-bustr-
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Tried the D25 last night, gotta say those 8 .50s make it an ezy mode plane... :D
Bagged 8 kills and a couple of assists on my first flight in it, even had to set the views after take off. :)
It is a nice ride though, dives great, holds it's energy well, like an overweight, ugly pony really. I might just have to keep flying it this tour and see if I can make 100 kills in it. ;)
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Knew I was gonna get my butt kicked and not win this contest...:eek: But on the other hand, by the end of 7 days I started landing some of my kills. :D
Who knows after 30 days, maybe I can take off, shoot down a passing seagull or 3, and actually get home every time.:D :D :D
Frenchy is getting verryyy sneeky in his old Youth;)
-bustr-
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Someone give a beer to Bustr :D Right on Sir!
BlueMac, the jug is very treaturous. It's far from uncomon to load 100% of fuel and go home with at least 7 kills, none being a vulch. So you think "puff, too easy!".
Then, next mission, 10 minutes into the flight, just passing 10k, you have a spit coming on you escorted by a N1K1 and you are screewed.
Or, you rack up 11 kills B&Zming the furball with the discipline of a zen master, and comes with 1 LA7 forcing you to run. And that's it, next thing you know, you are on the deck, with a LA7 slowly gaining on you, with 2 spits in a far trail, waiting for the LA7 to make you turn.
It's a very easy plane as long as you have the advantage, it's a coffin as long as you lost it, as you cannot rely on a "ubber speed" nor "ubber turn".
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Frenchy, too true. I'm expecting to have difficulty keeping any sort of reasonable k/d in it :)
Couple of questions on the D25 that you might be able to help with:
1) What is the corner speed?
2) What is approx Vne (ie. compression speed)?
3) What is the best glide angle speed?
4) What are the cruise and normal power settings?
Cheers,
mako
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Originally posted by Manedew
it's his jug your attracted too .... like p-38's ... they're just downright sexy :D
Frenchy has jugs!
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Bmac,
I have no clue what is the corner speed.
The Vne is about 550 TAS, the best economy I use is 32MP/21RPM.
Best glide? 175MPH doesn't look too bad.
All those, it's what I use, probably far from the optimum. I never took the time to run zillions of tests to know what is optimum.
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I'm having a ball and learning heaps!
I managed to land 3 kills last night after taking off from a capped base with 25% fuel. I took the light weapons load out of 6 50 cals and 267rounds per gun. Got a spit, and F6, and a Zero. Spit was a tailshot too :)
Great idea Frenchy - this was just the sort of thing I needed to make me concentrate on something for a period of time :)
Soon as Wilbuz spanked me about 38 times in a row I stopped crying like a baby and started learning instead. We should have a P40E tour next I reckon.
Cheers
Palef
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Fun contest Frenchy.
I was just wondering if you were going to post stats of people who participated at the end of the tour so we can see where we stood.
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Frenchy now I understand how you beat my LA5 on the deck with your D-30 last month. Last night I just took off, climbed to 2k and a LA7 came roaring up co-alt. I turned started a dive at him and closed at 250knts, he was probebly around 300knts per LA7's. He turned and I turned. Funny thing his E carried him wide and I turned slow inside keeping on his tail. I turned on wep and 1 notch of flaps and just followed him around slowly, my nose always just turning behind him. He finally burned his E and did a flip over on his back stall, then recovered to a dive. I was right there, upped flaps nosed over, at 300d cut his tail and wing off. I did exactly that kind of stall in the LA5 when you cut my tail off too.
We were at 1k when I smoked him. I picked up enough speed to slowly climb out to 10k, take on 3 p51's jabo raidin my feild. Got 1 in a dive, then proceeded to confound the rest doing the slow and low until I just could not keep up with both takin turns at me. I still damaged one's engine but "Machine" in the other smoked me.
If you really want to stall fight folks, take the Jug, it can be done, scares heck outta ya, but is worth it when you smoke the con. Man this is getting Fun Frenchy...I feel an Al Bundy coming on here---->>>>> tee hee hee<<<<<----:D :D :D
Heck by the end of this month I might be able to take on a large flock of geese and make pate'.;)
-bustr-
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after some hours in the p47 it seems that i in 50-70 % of my kills I dont see my targets (deflection shots) but it works well.
that plane sure has a nice ammo load.
Only thing is that I spend a lot of ammo hitting nothing aswell :)
Is this a common thing for you p47 jocks ? with that i mean deflection shots.
I might be "too carful" not following anyone in a turn but snap shot alot instead.
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I think this contest is a great idea. Unfortunately for me though I'm on vacation a good part of this month so I will not be able to reach the 100 kill plateau. Still, I will compete just for fun! I actually managed 9 kills with no deaths before I left town on July 2nd.
Wtg Manetmp, and good luck to all!
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leftfoot in a Jug is a beautiful thing to fight against. I caught him low and slow once tangling with a fellow Knight. Was just gonna watch, but he kept turning the tables on the poor Knight. So I'd jump in for the easy kill... nope. He'd do something freaky with that Jug and I'd overshoot and whiff on the shot (was Yak-9T. I can't aim that damned 37mm.) I think I eventually landed a vodka bottle on him, or someone else got him. Sheesh, that was a long time ago. At least 4 or 5 months. That one just stuck in my head tho as it was one of the few times I saw a Jug flown extraordinarily well.
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Frenchy,,,I upped last night with 25% fuel. Wow,,,Jug handeled like a big Spit. Turned well, climbed faster and when it was up to speed, handeled like a Ferrari. Surprised the heck outta another Jug D-25. It never stood a chance. Wow was that cool. Sad though, you got such a short time up with that little fuel.:cool:
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Taking off with 25% of fuel is "gaming the game". You cannot pretend being a jug pilot if you just have 25% onboard on the take off roll:D
It's like turnfighting in B17s, off course it can be done, but it's "not the point".
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On Deflection shooting:
Few tips that might help you get better shots....
set views to look around nose to forward, left and right (7 & 9). & Set forward view (8 keypad) to look over nose.
This will help some but setting up the shot is the real trick...
don't 'chase' an enemy aircraft ... try postioning yourself to come in from 5 or 7 OC not 6 o'clock, fly a parellel path and just "slide" in as distance closes...... con will ethir turn towards or away from you .. most will turn into you as it cuts the angle better.... a faster plane like an la7 may try to turn away and run;I'm assumeing one has E in this situation and would be able to run him down.
at this point set your path to where you'll think he'll be when your at d300 or so ...
do not chase him ... guess where he's going to be
262 is the best practise for this, you have to setup shots to hit anything ... but setup corectly no amount of manuvering can save em' - even lobbing taters
-also... try approaching an enemy and not turn with them imediately- so they're easier to track over your wing ..... then turn with them as you make your shot so you only lose sight for a moment when you shoot.
---i always take tons of fuel in jug ;) - flew with a dt in d30 once ... long sortie got 3 kills was running low on fuel so straffe acks and town a bit.... then the cons start upping like mad, is vulch at first but then turns into low level melee, anyway with 600 rnds between two banks and about 25% fuel still picked up 8-9 more kills and flew her home ..... You stay out long enf you get to 25% anyway :D Love how long the jug can stay out....
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Very good advise mane! thanks,
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I just had a 2 week trial that expiered today and i must say... ive been a jug o' holic for the last few years but this has been fun
Frenchy :)
ive never had so bad k/d (4/1) in it as now and i did not make over a 100 kills (80) but it has given me the lust back to sign up again, so ill do that in august/september when my vaication is up.
This time i did not use my good old B@Z tactics,.. i got most of my kills doing dogfights and it has given me even more respect and admiration for the jugs. :)
Thx Frenchy, even tho i stole a few kills from ya at A5 the other day
When i sign up again ill reveive the cloud surfers or i may apply for the 56th and see if they will have me.
Anyway.. was a fun 14 days and i hope it will stay that way when i sign up, the break did me a world o good