Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lazs2 on July 06, 2003, 10:49:52 AM
-
Was enjoying a pretty decent fur a few days ago when I heard that by one of the guys at our field (over and over)... the guy was allmost hysterical and practically begging for someone to "do something"..
The area was a coastal field with a close enemy CV' off shore... they were sending in planes at about the rate of 5 for every four of ours.. really good odds in my opinion... sometimes it would get lopsided a little worse then swing back the other way..
I thought it was a turkey shoot.... lot's of targets trying to get in and either hit hngers or low level vultch. I kept telling the guy to shut up and take off instead of milling around on the runway and that it was a great furball... sheesh... you could land 4 kill sorties with a little sa or..if you lost concentration, die allmost immediately.
Just seemed weird to me that two people saw the same situation in such a completely different way... For me it was low alt furball paradise but for him it was nail biting hell on earth... The fact that we could possibly lose the base allmost caused him to have a siezure... the fact that I knew it couldn't last bummed me out.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
-
Ahh Yes, The "Map Worrier" every side has them, and what a pain in the arse they can be. At least they tend to burn themselves out pretty quick
^ see your from Dixon, nice place :cool:
-
ya know cooley... you have hit on it. They do tend to burn themselves out. We have all seen it.
What will happen when all these new guys get skilled a little and don't want to steamroller or "missun"?
We better be ready with some alternative gameplay.
lazs
-
you don't get it lazs, the reason you had your "turkey shoot" was because the planes from the CV were trying to take the base*. if they did not try to take the base you would have had no "fun".
the very people you make fun of (strat)(base takers)(land grabbers) were the same people responsible for your "fun".
*you did say they were bombing the hangers.
BTW lazs, i'm glad we have pilots like you to defend our bases. ( we on the same side)
-
lol laz your right it is weird but its human nature and cant be avoided.
john9001 does have a point though laz! hes right about them trying for the base being the reason they were there.No base capture, no reason to be there for the majority.
There aresome who like just to fight but this sort of thing would only sustain interest for a smaller playerbase.With strat and mindless furball :) you can have both in the same area just like you describe.Some in that furball were trying to furball while others were trying to hit the base.take away the opertunity to blow stuff up and half your furball dissapears.
-
"O Lord, for what we are about to receive we thank you!" prays Mose Harper just before a slaughter.
Ever see that scene in The Searchers, movie by John Ford starring John Wayne?
Had a guy screaming on Bish channel the other night about an inbound raid on Base XXX! Help! Help! We gotta DO something!
I quoted him that line from The Searchers and pointed out it meant we're in for some fun.
Turns out nobody in Bishland remembered the scene... or the movie!
What's the world coming to? ;)
-
Lazs if you want to understand the feling of the other player ... try flying with the left hand ... (or the right if you are leftie)
You will soon notice how for the average to begining player it's frustrating
as you said :
f you lost concentration, die allmost immediately.
But mutli-bogey tracking is not a natural skill ... it's learned I'm starting to be able to manage properly 3 cons at once and I've started 3 years ago...
-
You also get newbie players that are alarmist.
They just see a bunch of enemy planes and start screaming that the sky is falling.
They simply don't have the experience to realize that the situation Lasz described in fun...not terror :D
Of course until newbies as such learn to fly well it will continue to be terror for them anyway.
-
Do these guys that endure such anxiety over realestate know about map reset ?
Someday they will realize that AH MA is one of those games that you can not win, or maybe they won't .
-
Toad I watched that movie just last week.I had never seen it before.Good flick for the time it was made,enjoyed it a lot.
"I quoted him that line from The Searchers and pointed out it meant we're in for some fun.
Turns out nobody in Bishland remembered the scene... or the movie!
What's the world coming to?"
Well they are bish you see.:D
Does Lazs remind you of Mose?;) Btw I am a member of the "Lazs school of thought" as far as this game goes.
Frodo
-
Originally posted by john9001
you don't get it lazs, the reason you had your "turkey shoot" was because the planes from the CV were trying to take the base*. if they did not try to take the base you would have had no "fun".
the very people you make fun of (strat)(base takers)(land grabbers) were the same people responsible for your "fun".
Indeed. There's no need to create or go looking for artificial/"manufactured" fights; Start attacking a base, and the action finds you!
Lazs, why the apostrophe in "butt's"??? :confused:
-
Oh... I beg to differ. I do believe that I get it. I have said many times that if the fields were closer it would bring the strat and furballers together.
How? well.... I'm not very good but I do mix it up. I don't care about field cature but ai like to shoot the red planes. To any strat guy watdching it looks like I am "defending the field" or.... attacking the field... john said that he was glad I was "defending the field".... I was doing no such thing... just killing red guys. I was having a blast.
Mose? I take that as a compliment.
lazs
-
"But mutli-bogey tracking is not a natural skill ... it's learned I'm starting to be able to manage properly 3 cons at once and I've started 3 years ago..."
Spot on ... For some its natural, for most its learned !!! ... standing on the sidelines fretting and wringing one's hands, only prolongs the learning curve.
The guy was obviously afraid of getting killed ... this always cracks me up !!! Oh my cod I'm gonna die ... wait ... I am back in the tower and I can pick a brand new plane and get back in the fight ? Cool !!!
-
Lazs ... Moses ? I dont' think so. 40 years wandering around in a desert and finding no fights ? I don't think so !!! :D
-
Originally posted by Suave
Do these guys that endure such anxiety over realestate know about map reset ?
Someday they will realize that AH MA is one of those games that you can not win, or maybe they won't .
Getting a base is a win. Getting to the target and taking out the strat is a win. Shooting down another plane is a win. Sinking a CV is a win. Defending a base successfully is a win. Getting a reset is a win.
No, there are plenty of "wins". Your mistake is that you think a "win" must correspond to an "ending".
Furballing is an endless game, but don't you feel like a winner when you land kills? But wait--the other guys can come back to "life" and try again.
Strat is an endless game, too, and I feel like a winner when I acheive my (admittedly transient) goals.
And thank goodness it never ends, even when we win.
-
"They just see a bunch of enemy planes and start screaming that the sky is falling. "
I wish HTC would model brown icons to reflect these players that have literally begun sh&tting thier pants while screaming through thier keyboards or like little girls on VOX during times like that.
Westy
-
Yeah, just like the special olympics, everybody is a winner. Even those hysterical over realestate, they're extra special winners .
-
Originally posted by Suave
Yeah, just like the special olympics, everybody is a winner. Even those hysterical over realestate, they're extra special winners .
Just having the balls to overcome an obstacle and compete in the special olympics makes those kids winners in my book.
-
Half of them don't have balls at all, they're female .
-
One of my favorite things to do in AH is up a spit 5 with 25% fuel when the hordes are innin, really gets the blood pumping, and good for a fun couple minutes til tail disapears :)
Except for last night as Fester and Kappa routinely shot us down by themselves at A31, 2 planes capping a field with at least 10 uppin was amazing to me .. and D*** frustrating lol
NwBie
-
funny nwbie I remember the reverse side.....
kappa and friends coming in 1 by 1 in spits and diein 1 by 1:D
then kappa whining on ch.1...now that was funny:eek:
-
Mose was the coolest character in the movie.Crazy like a fox!:D
-
slap... they are talking about mose in the movie the searchers.
lazs
-
geezlaz ..corn and rice must be growing slow...go play on I-80
i would think by now you willl here whines allover ....butdam you still so "excited" about someone panting about saving a base...lolol...
Dont worry...MAW will be there soon..some furballingthe other few will be killing the CV----by level bomers:p
btw..FU for saying there are only 4 MAW worth a dam..again FU till u apologize
-
there are only about 4 maw worth a damn but i could be wrong... could only be three since we got the best one allready.
drink up... and take care of that hand. Someday the maw may be required (tasked) to go out and buy joysticks and you may need that hand.
lazs
-
Hate to burst your bubble, Lazs, but even BGB with the bad hand outranked your "Uber-convert" last tour in fighter stats.
If that's the best and brightest, your world must be pretty dimly lit.
-
I've watched em both and ouch is better.
lazs
-
Not according to the ranks.
-
C'mon Muck...you know as well as I do that ranking has very little to do with skill.
-
I don't know. Evertime someone makes a post here, Lazs gets busy checking stats.
Look, Ouch is a great stick and a great guy. No question about it.
What else would you use to judge a pilots skill?
Look at my fighter stats. I suck. No skill at fighters. Look at IceMAW's Fighter stats. Fighter Skills.
If stats are good enough for Lazs, they're good enough for me.
-
Whatever makes ya happy:)
-
Originally posted by Rude
C'mon Muck...you know as well as I do that ranking has very little to do with skill.
*bubble bursting*
AWWwww CRAP!!
and I thought I was doin pretty good this tour...thanks a lot RUDE!!!
-
Originally posted by AcId
*bubble bursting*
AWWwww CRAP!!
and I thought I was doin pretty good this tour...thanks a lot RUDE!!!
I'm sorry....let me try this again...
Ranking is a many splendid thing;)
-
Originally posted by Rude
I'm sorry....let me try this again...
Ranking is a many splendid thing;)
CRAP!!! I was just starting to feel better about myself in this game. :D
G
-
Originally posted by lazs2
slap... they are talking about mose in the movie the searchers.
lazs
DOH !!! ... I need to get out more :eek:
-
Originally posted by lazs2
I've watched em both and ouch is better.
lazs
Come on ... If anything ... give Ouch a break. He doesn't deserve, nor need to get in the middle of y'alls SNOTBALL fight.
They are BOTH very good sticks ... leave it at that.
-
I think I could take em both....with only one hand too.
-
Originally posted by Rude
I think I could take em both....with only one hand too.
Bah ... When I was fightin' you last week, I had my left rudder pedal foot tied to the base of my chair and I still kicked your butt. Those guys would smoke you ... ;)
-
Originally posted by muckmaw
Hate to burst your bubble, Lazs, but even BGB with the bad hand outranked your "Uber-convert" last tour in fighter stats.
You can't seriously believe that means anything like what you're suggesting it means. Right?
-- Todd/Leviathn
-
I'll take a ok or crappy pilot that is a team player, helpfull and courtious any day over a skilled stunninghunk.
Ouch is a good stick and as far as I am concerned still a friend of the MAW and me. He flew with us for a long time but decided he wanted to do his own thing so he left. Lazs on the other hand well I wont go there I made my point once before.
-
Originally posted by SlapShot
Bah ... When I was fightin' you last week, I had my left rudder pedal foot tied to the base of my chair and I still kicked your butt. Those guys would smoke you ... ;)
Ya couldn't just let me enjoy the moment...nnnoooo...not you. You had bring that up....well thanks alot man.
:)
-
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
You can't seriously believe that means anything like what you're suggesting it means. Right?
-- Todd/Leviathn
Whispers to Lev ... "No he doesn't ... its a jab vs. jab thingy"
-
muck... you are of course wrong on the stats. Our converts stats are...
K/d about 2.5
K/s about 1.5
K/h about 9.0
hit % about 8.6
your guys are....
K/d about 2.0 (0.5 so far this tour)
K/s about 1.2 (0.4 so far this tour)
K/h about 7.7 (1.9 so far this tour)
hit % about 8.5 (3.4 so far this tour)
these are rounded off and reflect the few tours previous to the current one.
soooo.... as you can see... our guy smokes your guy in every category.... He is mixing it up more in every sortie and surviving better. and... contrary to what you say... now that your guy is wounded he doesn't seem to even be able to stay aloft.
gee... I sure hope he doesn't take thew 30 minute drive to my house and hurt me now tho... he seems like such a tough guy on the BB ya know. Even so... I'm not gonna salute.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
-
ice... sorry... refresh my memory?
lazs
-
Through trial and error Curly has found a method of level bombing that once again makes it possible for us to take a single formation of B17's and pretty consistently take down three fighter hangers. Two or three flights can almost certainly take down any field. Better get the CAP up. BOMBS AWAY!
-
Originally posted by lazs2
muck... you are of course wrong on the stats. Our converts stats are...
K/d about 2.5
K/s about 1.5
K/h about 9.0
hit % about 8.6
your guys are....
K/d about 2.0 (0.5 so far this tour)
K/s about 1.2 (0.4 so far this tour)
K/h about 7.7 (1.9 so far this tour)
hit % about 8.5 (3.4 so far this tour)
these are rounded off and reflect the few tours previous to the current one.
soooo.... as you can see... our guy smokes your guy in every category.... He is mixing it up more in every sortie and surviving better. and... contrary to what you say... now that your guy is wounded he doesn't seem to even be able to stay aloft.
gee... I sure hope he doesn't take thew 30 minute drive to my house and hurt me now tho... he seems like such a tough guy on the BB ya know. Even so... I'm not gonna salute.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
You know what Lazs, Slapshot is right. This is a silly snotball contest that you always thrive on, so I will take my leave of it, save this.
BGBMAW Tour 41 (Busted Hand) Fighter Rank #179
lazs Tour 41 (with only a mildly sore plam) Fighter Rank #278
Shall we break it down, oh lover of stats?
Kills Per Death...BGB:2.02...Lazs:2.378++++Adv. Lazs
Kills Per Sortie...BGB:1.28....Lazs:1.13++++Adv. BGB
Kills Per Hour.....BGB:7.77...Lazs:8.676++++Adv Lazs
Hit Percentage...BGB:8.58...lazs:7.146++++Adv BGB
Points................BGB:63,458...Lazs:30,438+++Adv BGB
So in essence, your only as skilled as a one handed California Hippie!
:D
BTW, I took Ouch out of this because it was unfair to bring him up in our little pissing match, even though I was not going to use his name. Hence, I used the BGB vs. Lazs West Coast Rumble Stats.
Now scurry off and find some stats to counter me. And then I'll do the same until we're both old and gray...oh, wait...until I'm old and gray.
I've proved my point, and I'm done with you for today. You'll just have to play with beetle.
-
Originally posted by AKIron
Through trial and error Curly has found a method of level bombing that once again makes it possible for us to take a single formation of B17's and pretty consistently take down three fighter hangers. Two or three flights can almost certainly take down any field. Better get the CAP up. BOMBS AWAY!
I simply must have this secret formula.
Must activate AK Mole...
Mooooooolllleee
Mollie mollie mollie
-
laz..lolol please i will not hurt you..infact i am a member to the karting club in dixon..i just want ur adress..im going to give the HS kids some TP to do you r house:D
but seriusly..u are kidding yourself to claim the best of the MAW left..lololo
there are only about 4 maw worth a damn but i could be wrong... could only be three since we got the best one allready.
hahahah classic..can u name the names or what..scared??
My hand has been broken since june1st so i dont know wht my stats say..
But i will kik the majorities prettythang here ftr vs ftr....so go on in ur DreaM
-
oo tht s BS muck..i aint no stinkn hippie....and u aint no old man..lolol
i have now 4 kills with my left hand ftr vs ftr...poor souls..
i stalled out in typ (porking is all i can do now)..right in front of nmy...god this suks..o yaa i cant give chek'6's...use vox..or level bom w/ 1c hand i just discovered....
Dam im going to be porky pig soon...Luz..ur luky we on same country...heheh
Dam fine weather today tho..EXCEllent Karting weather..
Luz,,,still awaiting your "premiere MAW 4"..or do you want to retract that statement??
-
Bah, I fly left handed all the time. Nuttin' to it.
-
LOL Apache I'm left handed too....but.
When I was a kid and went for my first guitar lesson the teacher handed me the guitar and I set up left handed..
She said " Ever play a guitar before ??" and I said no. She then said "Then what difference does it make ??" I couldn't argue with that.
Which explains why I can't fly worth ****e...
But I'm NAILS with a throttle...
-
lolol..
lazs..still waiting for ur "only" 3
ouch is welcome anytime with us
-
Originally posted by WestyAH
...
I wish HTC would model brown icons to reflect these players that have literally begun sh&tting thier pants while screaming through thier keyboards or like little girls on VOX during times like that.
Westy
Lol Westy :D
Where you been? Good to see you back on this board :)
-
muck... rank was not included since it is not really a stat but is "score" it has to do with how many hours you play.
I am not very good but... using last tour mght be a little bit wrong since it was the tour that I took the "challenge" and flew every plane in the set till I landed a kill and never went over 6K.. It is about half my normal stats. I think it is kinda funny that the tour you chose was obviously the worst and that I took an average of the last 3 or 4. One of us is being a little dishonest.
bgb... I never said I would name anyone.... you did. I said that there "probly" were only 4 maw worth a damn... I am actually having trouble finding 4. You guys hold up ice and bgb and neither seems to be even mediocre. Perhaps you have someone that is good that I haven't seen?
TP my house? I think the high school kids are too busy going through your pockets when you pass out but... email me. Come on by.. I have a go kart too that you might like.. A 55 Healey.
So... I was maybe wrong... there aren't 4 worth a damn that I can name... I can't even find one. well.... that's not true... stats asside... I like flying around slapshot.. he gets in and mixes it up.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BKs
-
stupid pissing contest:D
AaaaaH!!!!!!
-
If I were you slo... I would just boycott the thread.
lazs
-
I'm sorry I only used last tour Lazs. I did not know you were doing something "Special" but I simply don't have time to go back 4 tours and average out the stats and get out my slide rule.
Why don't you do it for me.
Better yet, compile all the stats for the MAW since the squad moved over, and send me the printout.
I prefer Pie charts to bar charts, and if you could make it multi-color, it would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
-
pretty easy muck... you can do it at a glance ... no need to be exact.. the trend is easy enough to see.
lazs
-
Honestly don't have time to go through stats, but I love the way you call Ice "not even mediocre".
You might want to compare his stats to yours before you make that statement.
Oh, and my dad can beat up your dad...:D
-
Originally posted by lazs2
gee... I sure hope he doesn't take thew 30 minute drive to my house and hurt me now tho... he seems like such a tough guy on the BB ya know. Even so... I'm not gonna salute.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
My GAWD, lassie...
does that chip on your shoulder weigh as much as I think it does?
-
muck... I thought you didn't have time to compare stats?
and my dad can beat up your dad. My son can beat up your son too.
lazs
-
I don't.
Did you check the numbers?
Oh, and My dog can hump your dog!:D
-
Originally posted by BGBMAW
lazs..still waiting for ur "only" 3
I don't know about lazs, but my favorite three MAWs include:
Your_MAW_MAW
I'm_not_suspicious_at_all_MAW
209_is_not_secure_idiotsMAW
-- Todd/Leviathn
-
leviathn got it.
muck..
if you dont then how do you know?
yes i did check the numbers
my dog is a cat.
lazs, oh wait... colonel lazs... yeah that's the ticket... no, wait General lazs!
Public Relations Officer For the BK's
-
I was really swamped this morning.
Our office is being transferred to Mitchel Field on Long Island, and I had a few meetings to attend. It certainly will be nice working across the street from an aviation museum. (talk about your perks.)
Just quickly looking over the numbers, I would hardly describe Ice as barely medicre.
Somehow I knew you were a cat person.
My Canary can take your cat. :D
-
Originally posted by BGBMAW
..o yaa i cant give chek'6's...use vox..or level bom w/ 1c hand i just discovered....
CHECK 6...dang get up in the air so I can give ya uncontested Check 6s. And I just might have to drive up to Dixon to see BGB whoop laz with 1 hand.
And BGB, I want a rematch on the golf game while you only have one hand...maybe some $$$kins!!!!!
Hope that hand gets better soon. Also, you interested in a cockpit?? I just bought new house & wife says no way in hell my cockpit is coming. If interested, let me know. Hey, I am going up to Tahoe to Edgewood next week to play in that Celeb golf thing, maybe stop by say hi & have drink or two. Let me know.
-
Hey BGB,
Is your hand in a cast? If so, tape a pencil to it. You should be able to give some check 6's at that point. ;)
Glove
-
big'uns... you are welcome to come to Dixon to see me any time you like. I'm sure we could find some fun stuff to do... If you or bgb wanted to kick my butt I guess that would be ok too tho.. Haven't had anyone kick my butt in a long time. bound to be interesting.
lazs
-
Hey Laz, you don't happen to golf do you? If so, we can arrange a little outting up at the coarse BigB works at. Then we can both whoop the one-handed california hippie!!!! Fun to see him hack a 3 ft putt as you yell "check 6" in the middle of his back swing.
-
Don't play golf... Guess I should learn, my cousin is a pro and was in the jr tour thing when he was a kid.
lazs
-
muck.. they are my daughters cats but I kinda like em. They don't get all slavish and devoted like dogs or girlfriends. If they need something from you they figure out how to get it without a fuss.
If you want to go take off for a few days or a week you just leave a bunch of dry food, water and cat litter and everything will be fine... with dogs... they will kill themselves eating then if they survive starve to death and **** all over the house after they have eaten all the furniture. When you get home to the cats they may or may not come out to see how you are doing but when you get home to the dogs you will see and smell a rotting corpse and a destroyed house. In that respect.... yeah... guess I'm a "cat person".
cats hunt alone and are very skilled... dogs hunt in packs and don't do worth a crap... You a dog person muck?
lazs
-
Originally posted by lazs2
They don't get all slavish and devoted like dogs or girlfriends.
So what your saying is you prefer the company of cats and men. That's fine, but this is not a "Lifestyle" bbs.
If they need something from you they figure out how to get it without a fuss.
You could learn something from the cats here.
cats hunt alone and are very skilled... dogs hunt in packs and don't do worth a crap... You a dog person muck?
lazs
Yes, I prefer Dogs to Cats, though I own neither at this time. I also don't hunt in packs. As a matter of fact, I don't hunt at all. I play a video game for my entertainment.
:D
-
Cat's are cool, have 3 of them. Low maintanence, rarely give me the time of day.
If they do, I throw heavy things at them.
Two dogs that run and hide when I fly.
They aren't dopes..
-
I think I just hit the low point of my life.
I just got an e-mail from the Labrador Retriever Rescue Shelter..Apparently my application to get a dog was rejected.
So in essence, they're saying we'd rather put the dog to sleep than give it to you.
Good Grief!:(
-
did you sign the application.....
"Maj. J. "Muck" Pizzo
Commanding Officer
VMA-223 "Bulldogs"
Marine Air Wing "
That could be the problem.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
-
Damn!
I thought the major thing would have made the adoption a lock!
Maybe if I signed it Colonel.....hmmmm