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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Hortlund on July 08, 2003, 06:33:16 AM

Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Hortlund on July 08, 2003, 06:33:16 AM: 2,652
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: straffo on July 08, 2003, 06:51:49 AM: hu ?

Was about to post a stupid comment when I remembered that "," can be used as a thousand separator when in my country it's a decimal separator :)

2.652 sounded weird :p
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Dowding on July 08, 2003, 06:53:00 AM: Sounds about right. Weren't the Iraqis claiming a similar number in their last few broadcasts?
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Raubvogel on July 08, 2003, 07:27:13 AM: ****, that number would be a weekend of killing for Saddam.
Title: Hort Baby!
Post by: Syzygyone on July 08, 2003, 09:24:44 AM: Source Please.
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 08, 2003, 09:59:53 AM: Number of civilians killed in the WTC on 9/11: 2,823

Number of civilians killed in the Pentagon on 9/11: 125

Number of civilians killed on UA Flight 93: 45

Number of civilians killed on UA Flight 175: 65

Number of civilians killed on AA Flight 11: 92

Number of civilians killed on AA Flight 77: 64

Number of civilians targeted by terrorists on 9/11: As many as possible.

Number of civilians targeted by the USA in Iraq: Zero.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,776451,00.html
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Erlkonig on July 08, 2003, 10:15:38 AM: Number of connections between 9/11 terrorism and Iraq: 0
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 08, 2003, 10:19:50 AM: Percent of relevance the above post has to the point made: Zero.
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Eagler on July 08, 2003, 10:24:06 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Erlkonig
Number of connections between 9/11 terrorism and Iraq: 0

glad you are so sure of that .... I'm not
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Erlkonig on July 08, 2003, 11:26:16 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Percent of relevance the above post has to the point made: Zero.

What was the point?
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 08, 2003, 11:54:00 AM: Demonizing America because of some 2,000 odd civilian casualties that were the result of US mistakes and Iraqi 'shielding' tactics is not quite in the same category as some 2,000 odd civilian deaths that were the result of direct targeting.

Lets not forget who the bad guys are.
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: UserName on July 08, 2003, 12:07:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Demonizing America because of some 2,000 odd civilian casualties that were the result of US mistakes and Iraqi 'shielding' tactics is not quite in the same category as some 2,000 odd civilian deaths that were the result of direct targeting.

Lets not forget who the bad guys are.

The US military?
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: -dead- on July 08, 2003, 12:35:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by UserName
The US military?
Well ... unless I'm reading his post wrong, I think what Saurdaukar is trying to say is that in his opinion the US military is not evil at all, they're just incompetent.
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Martlet on July 08, 2003, 12:57:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by UserName
The US military?

HAHAHA, that coming from a North Korean.

Rich!
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Yeager on July 08, 2003, 12:57:36 PM: the US military is not evil at all, they're just incompetent.
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What a idiot.
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: -dead- on July 08, 2003, 01:21:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
the US military is not evil at all, they're just incompetent.
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What a idiot.
Ahhh the plot thickens... so while Saurdaukar reckons the civilian deaths were due to incompetence, you reckon they were killed on purpose? What dark and eldritch conspiracy theory do you adhere to?
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: funkedup on July 08, 2003, 01:24:47 PM: Did it occur to you that it is possible to unintentionally kill civilians without being incompetent?
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: -dead- on July 08, 2003, 01:28:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by funkedup
Did it occur to you that it is possible to unintentionally kill civilians without being incompetent?
Shhh funked, you're frightening the fish. ;)
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Arfann on July 08, 2003, 01:33:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by funkedup
Did it occur to you that it is possible to unintentionally kill civilians without being incompetent?

Of course it is, if yer self serving CIC sticks you out there where you don't belong.
Title: Number of civilians killed during the war in Iraq
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 08, 2003, 01:58:34 PM: Jesus Christ... I go to lunch and come back to a pond filled with bobbers.

Regardless of the numbers, its the method that counts here. If you take a swipe at the guy screwing your wife and accidentally hit your grandmother because the chap grabbed her and used her as a shield, its kind of stupid to demonize the fist thrower.

But if you are screwing some guys wife and clock his kid in the teeth, youre directly targeting people that have nothing to do with the situation.

1. Civilian casualties that occur as a result of misfortune.
2. Civilian casualties that occur as a result of direct targeting.

What angers me is that #1 always seems to come to light when the US is involved - and we are then spit on, but #2 never seems to materialize, and on the rare occasion that it does, its still the US's fault in some fashion... sanctions, oil, women, money, arms sales, other assorted garbage.

UserName: Are you stating that the Unites States is responsible for the worlds problems?

Yeager: Who are you responding to?

-dead-: Thats almost insulting - Youre going to have to do much better. ;)