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Title: auto patents
Post by: MrCoffee on July 08, 2003, 04:05:17 PM
If you are into automobiles like me, an interesting thing to read up on are the patents owned by the various automakers and subsidiaries. Its very interesting and even surprising to know who invented all that stuff and still owns the patents. Sorta like looking at the evolutionary tree of automobiles.

:)
Title: auto patents
Post by: MrCoffee on July 08, 2003, 04:10:03 PM
Example, theres Mitsubishi inventions in Porches and Bosch stuff in just about every Japaneses car these days though it may say Nippon Denso. Then theirs Italian Weber Marelli patents, etc.. etc... etc...
Title: auto patents
Post by: MrCoffee on July 08, 2003, 04:37:44 PM
All or most for cylinder engines over 2.0 liter today has a lineage from a Mitsubishi. Ok, Im going to find some coffe and a game of ping pong. Later.

:D

All of your patents are belong to them!
Title: auto patents
Post by: funkedup on July 08, 2003, 04:41:50 PM
U R A NERD!

I gotta admit I spent some time looking up some friends' patents.  The uspto site is very nice.

Here's one that just about every non-US auto manufacturer jumped on when it expired:  variable valve timing (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,673,557.WKU.&OS=PN/5,673,557&RS=PN/5,673,557).
Title: auto patents
Post by: Sikboy on July 08, 2003, 04:55:39 PM
Do you happen to be an IP Lawyer?


-Sik
Title: auto patents
Post by: funkedup on July 08, 2003, 04:58:27 PM
Here's one that brings back bad memories.  It's part of a certain very large black airplane.  Safelock (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=7&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=lang&s2=sundstrand&OS=lang+AND+sundstrand&RS=lang+AND+sundstrand).
Title: auto patents
Post by: Dowding on July 08, 2003, 05:10:00 PM
Are any people on here Patents agents or attorneys?
Title: auto patents
Post by: Sikboy on July 09, 2003, 09:38:29 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Are any people on here Patents agents or attorneys?


Hold that thought for about 4 years.

-Sik
Title: auto patents
Post by: Dowding on July 09, 2003, 11:23:51 AM
Are you training to be one? I've got an interview with a Patents Agency next week to be a Trainee Patents Attorney.

Got any tips?

I don't rate my chances - I graduated three years ago and don't have a PHd, but it was from a good university in Applied Physics with a year spent doing original research into conductive polymers.

They've asked me to prepare a description of the operation of a staple remover for the interview. :)
Title: auto patents
Post by: Sikboy on July 09, 2003, 11:29:44 AM
I don't intend to get into Patents really, I'd rather stick to copyright and trademark (not having a technical background hurts me a bit for patent law).  But I'm just starting law school this fall, so I'll know more in about 2 years lol.

-Sik
Title: auto patents
Post by: Dowding on July 09, 2003, 11:33:29 AM
Well, good luck :). I remember you mentioning law before, but not patents. Do you have a company paying for the degree?
Title: auto patents
Post by: Sikboy on July 09, 2003, 11:40:17 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Well, good luck :). I remember you mentioning law before, but not patents. Do you have a company paying for the degree?


Not unless I start one :eek:  I get SOME tuition assistance from my company, but only $7,500 a year (out of a $38,000 annual bill lol)

-Sik
Title: auto patents
Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 03:42:17 PM
MrC, ball's in your court, post some interesting patents.  :)
Title: auto patents
Post by: LoneStarBuckeye on July 09, 2003, 04:07:16 PM
Dowding:

I'm in the U.S. (I think you're in the UK), but I'd be happy to help you if I can.  Drop me an e-mail if you have any particular (or even general) questions, and I'll take my best shot at answering them.

- JNOV
Title: auto patents
Post by: Dowding on July 09, 2003, 04:09:33 PM
Sik - that's a huge cost. But I guess it gives you an incentive, if you needed one, to complete the course. A friend of mine works as a barrister in London - it emphasized to me how lucrative a profession it is. I'm sure a few MacDonald's scalding coffee cases will make it all worthwhile. :D

LoneStarBuckeye - Brilliant mate, really appreciate it. I'll drop you a line! :)
Title: auto patents
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 04:29:41 PM
The counterbalance design used in Porsches watercooled 4 bangers (924/944/968) was developed by Mitsubishi.

It was cheaper to simply use it and pay - forget what it was... 2 bucks a car or something - than to sink money into R&D for a new design.