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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: brzwhalr on May 10, 2001, 06:04:00 PM
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Last night while I was online I was surprised to find that some of the enemy pilots I encountered expected me to let them go if they ran out of fuel. One pilot attacked me in his 109 while I was in a pony. He had all the cards, altitude and speed. I avoided his attacks for a few minutes and then he tried to disengage. I followed and he then started to glide as he had run out of fuel. Not wanting to miss out on the kill I had been working for, I took his wing off with a quick burst.
This is where I come to the point: I sent him a <S> on ch 1 for the way in which he had carried out his attacks. I was also going to explain that I was sorry he ran out of fuel. Instead of acknowledging my <S>, this particular pilot ignored me until I asked him specifically whether he had seen my <S>. He then replied with something to the effect of "I was out of fuel and ditching, why should I <S> a vulcher?".
My position is this: When you are in combat or over enemy territory, fuel management is a vital part of getting back to base. You don't do this well, I'm going to use this to my advantage. Why should an enemy pilot let you off the hook because you haven't kept up your SA?
I won the fight because I had a better knowledge of my fuel state. Remember, the 109 attacked me so he obviously didn't look at his fuel gauge. So, to the 109 pilot pffffft <raspberry>. To everyone else, please reply with your thoughts below.
P.S. I understand the 109 pilot was probably peeved that I shot him down but still no need to be impolite... after all, 'tis only a game. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Lol!
Good kill! Good kill!
SA INCLUDES your fuel state. I guess some people don't realize that. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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brzwhalr,
I'd say your opponent <bleeped> up his maneuvering and you nailed him for it. Just because his mistake was in fuel management doesn't make it any more sacrosanct than if you mess up on managing your e-state.
I call "Good kill".
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Fuel management is same as E-managment and ammo conservation, this guy made a mistake.
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Lotta guys travel light on gas so they get an advantage when manuevering... IOW... His low gas was helping him to kill you. His low gas then should *not* grant him some kind of 'time-out' pass when it's all gone.
Seems to me though that he only complained about this when badgered about returning the salute.
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Yeppers!
Running out of fuel...ammo...E....SA...its all the same. I do appreciate it sometimes when someone runs off after a good battle and says the reason was they were bingo fuel or ammo. This should only be done after a succeful disengage maneuver, that was its a <S> and a explination of why the fun ended, and not a plea for mercy.
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Originally posted by Nash:
Seems to me though that he only complained about this when badgered about returning the salute.
Not badgered, two <S>'s passed out and one question if he was watching channel 1. It's one thing to explain why you don't want to <S>, another to call the guy who just handed you your hide a vulcher. I thought it was a straight forward kill and was surprised when he responded as above. That's the reason for the post...
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I too do not let no-fuel gliders go home. Why should I? I fly the P-51D and it has great fuel economy where as in other places it is maybe lacking a little. If you want to fly the tight-turning, cannon shooting, gas guzzling planes, that is your choice. cannons and maneuverabilty are your weapons. Speed and fuel endurance are 2 of mine (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Some people also fly with minimal fuel to increase the performance (ie 50% to make their planes real light).
If he died dead-stick then thats tough luck, he shoulda planned better.
What you shoulda done is put ONE ping into him, let him ditch, then you get the kill anway and it woulda pissed him off even more (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Screw the guys, it is his own dumb fault.
I always look after my fuel. And if do i forget about it, that is my F***G fault too.
It is so easy, some people see only themselves as perfect!
In dutch we say "hij heeft een bord voor z'n kop".
Translated: "he has a plank in front of his head"
Typical handsomehunk behavior.
I.e. when i get shot down in a very annoying way, i still say "nice kill"or something like that, even though i hate his gutts for it.
This is called respect!!
See ya all,
JG5FaBi.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
Fuel management is same as E-managment and ammo conservation, this guy made a mistake.
And this is coming from a guy that tried vulching me on the runway!!! And I am on his team (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Good Kill.
I do let the guys that are landing on a runway get off usually...
usually (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I don't think 109 pilots in the Battle of Britain called their British adversaries "vulcher". I mean, those guys knew they had only 20~30 minutes up in the English skies. They were keen on their fuel, and they had to be. Maybe so should we.
Fuel and ammo - every drop and penny counts
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too bad he didnt whine on channel one where we could all see him.
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I think the moral of this story should be: <S> your opponent and don't worry if he saw it, has Ch1 squelched or likes you. Just fly your game and let the other guy fly his.
In RL the victor didn't worry if the corpse in the dead plane returned his salute or not. He was too busy looking to save his own arse. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
If you really MUST respond to a <S> in a negative manner, just challenge the victor to a duel in the DA and take out your frustrations that way.
Mav
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A kill is a kill is a kill. Anyone that flies in the MA without accepting the risk that they may be shot down should think about logging off and flying offline.
Good kill brzwhalr
MiG
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when I run out of fuel in a fight, I just scream "crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!" and die like the idjit I am (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I expect other idjits to do the same (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Best regards,
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[This message has been edited by Saintaw (edited 05-11-2001).]