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Title: You can run.
Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 04:11:55 PM

But you'll just die tired.
(http://www.spimotorsports.com/images/Gallery/customer/Canadian%20Police/copwrx1[1].jpg)

Title: You can run.
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 04:13:09 PM

Now I believe all those stories on http://www.importthugs.com about running from the cops.

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Post by: SOB on July 09, 2003, 04:14:40 PM

Now I like WRXs, don't get me wrong, but that is the gayest police car I've ever seen ... well, gayest next to the BigMoneyWaste cop car anyway.


SOB

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Post by: Dowding on July 09, 2003, 04:19:13 PM

They use them as Q-Cars over here. Unmarked. Very effective, apparently. But alot of the police use the Volvo 850. Yes a Volvo. Although it is the turbocharged T5 version. :)

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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 04:24:50 PM

(http://www.posterbiz.com/canada/image/categ10/C602.jpg)



My dad can beat up your dad.

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Post by: john9001 on July 09, 2003, 04:29:45 PM

police don't need fast cars, they have radios and big cars (for raming)

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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 04:33:44 PM

Yes, but of course you cant ram what you cant catch.  ;)


(http://personal.inet.fi/surf/porschenet/pics/911/bl993rea.jpg)

(Since this is going to turn into another WRX v. P-car thread, might as well skip the bull**** and get down to it.)  :D

Title: You can run.
Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 04:42:17 PM

Well I'm screwed if you are bringing out turbos, at least on pavement.  On snow or gravel you might be in trouble though.  I'll bring a winch to help you out.  :)

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Post by: swoopy on July 09, 2003, 04:56:33 PM

Quote

Originally posted by john9001
police don't need fast cars, they have radios and big cars (for raming)

Yes but other countries arnt allowed to ram

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Post by: capt. apathy on July 09, 2003, 05:10:49 PM

washington county used to have a vett to patrol hwy 26.  
I can't believe they painted it that sick looking white with green doors

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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 05:29:52 PM

Ahem... Funked, that 993TT is AWD.  Gravel shmavel.  

Be that as it may, RWD 911's were rallying before Mr. Subaru decided he liked cars.  ;)

Title: You can run.
Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 05:47:43 PM

Yeah it's AWD, but it's optimized for pavement unlike the more sophisticated system in the WRX STi.  Also Porsches run a bit low for gravel.  WRX has much more suspension travel and ground clearance.  :D

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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 05:49:18 PM

So its kind of like a squashed SUV?  ;)

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Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 05:50:15 PM

And it's Mr. Nakajima.
Yes that Nakajima.  :)

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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 05:51:12 PM

Funked, youre a NIKI DWEEB!?!?!

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Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 05:59:01 PM

Well they do sell an SUV (Forester) with basically the same chassis.

Title: You can run.
Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 05:59:33 PM

Hayate dweeb.  :)

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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2003, 06:21:38 PM

Quote

Originally posted by SOB
Now I like WRXs, don't get me wrong, but that is the gayest police car I've ever seen ... well, gayest next to the BigMoneyWaste cop car anyway.


SOB

Can't be any gayer than a Mini!

(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ripsnort60/minimini.jpg)

Title: more blathering
Post by: funkedup on July 09, 2003, 06:25:12 PM

PS I think the Porsche AWD system is actually pretty advanced, was just talking out of my bellybutton before.

Why the WRX is somewhat optimized for rough roads:

When they first started building the WRX, WRC was contested by Group A cars.  In Group A, if you wanted to race with an AWD turbo car with a 2.0 l motor, you had to build 10,000 of them.  So cars like the WRX and Mistubishi Lancer Evo and Lancia Delta Integrale and Cosworth Escort and Mazda 323GTX came into being.  You couldn't change the bodywork or suspension geometry or any major dimension of the car, so the street cars were laid out with a configuration that would work pretty well in the WRC.  

Since then they have added a new class (WRC cars) which is run in addition to Group A.  WRC cars are allowed much greater changes from the stock homolgated cars bring them up to rally spec.  So you see cars like the Peugeot 206 (which is a FWD 1.6 l normally aspirated dog in road-going form) which get to add in a full race 2.0 l turbo motor and AWD drivetrain and optimized suspension which makes them able to compete with the Group A cars.  Same for the Hyundai Accent or the Citroen Xsara or the Ford Focus.  The manufacturers no longer have to build high performance homologation specials in order to be competitive in WRC.

But Mitsubishi and Subaru have stuck with their old platforms, because the road cars have been sales successes, and were still competitive in WRC.  Also the cars retained their homologation for lower FIA classes (Group N) where they are dominant.  Group N is great, because the cars have to be very close to stock and there are hundreds (thousands?) of entrants, which means there are tons of racing parts available for us ricers which will bolt right on to a stock car.

The WRC class cars are starting to kick some butt though.  Subaru made a slight change with the GDA Impreza (you'll notice the WRC fenders are a little wider than the road car), but Mitsubishi stuck with the Group A car.  They both did well at first, but the WRC class cars have come on strong, and Subaru and Mitsubishi have only won a couple of rallies since 2001.   I think they both might have to come up with a smaller car to run with Peugeot and Citroen and Ford who are basically stuffing full race chassis into very small econo-hatches.

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Post by: SOB on July 09, 2003, 07:07:48 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Can't be any gayer than a Mini!

(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ripsnort60/minimini.jpg)

Hmmm...good point!  :D


SOB

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Post by: Mini D on July 09, 2003, 07:20:10 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Can't be any gayer than a Mini!

(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ripsnort60/minimini.jpg)

In Italy, that's a big car.

MiniD

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Post by: midnight Target on July 09, 2003, 07:28:44 PM

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
(http://www.posterbiz.com/canada/image/categ10/C602.jpg)



My dad can beat up your dad.

Your Dad is kinda cute!

Title: You can run.
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 09, 2003, 07:41:34 PM

Aye... I asked if he'd be interested in posing with an FDB shirt and said no.

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Post by: RightF00T on July 09, 2003, 10:59:05 PM

NC uses Camaro's.  You see the front end pull up at stoplight and rev engine up for kicks  then notice the NC Department of Motor Vehicles seal on the side.  Funny to see the make-one-wrong-move-and-you're-mine face on the cops. :D

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Post by: gofaster on July 10, 2003, 09:14:20 AM

Quote

Originally posted by SOB
Now I like WRXs, don't get me wrong, but that is the gayest police car I've ever seen.

Its the rainbow stripe on the door that gives it away.

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Post by: funkedup on July 10, 2003, 12:24:37 PM

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Originally posted by gofaster
Its the rainbow stripe on the door that gives it away.

That is a pretty gay stripe now that you point it out.  I think it might be part of the same police force as the cop in the Village People.

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Post by: Wlfgng on July 10, 2003, 12:58:01 PM

those little cars (wrx's, etc) don't stand a chance up here...
hell, they can barely roll over a rock in the road.

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Post by: narsus on July 10, 2003, 01:20:44 PM

funked totally agree with your analysis of wrc, the focus, citreon, puegot, and now skoda all are these little crappy cars in real life.

Now Subaru and Mitsu make performance cars that we can drive, that goes a long way in my book.

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Post by: Dowding on July 10, 2003, 02:03:49 PM

The Ford Focus RS is a superb car that rivals the Impreza et al on the road. Us mere mortals can buy them too.

Skodas have come a long way since VW took them over. I wouldn't have one though. :)

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Post by: Monk on July 11, 2003, 08:49:26 AM

I test drove the new RS, nice car.

I'll stay with my old humble rally car.;)

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Post by: Sandman on July 11, 2003, 10:09:21 AM

None are complete without these (http://www.bumpernuts.com/) .

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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 11, 2003, 10:36:05 AM

My grandfather was right... someone HAS thought of everything.

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Post by: loser on July 11, 2003, 01:54:43 PM

Bah funked, I'd be more afraid of this:

(http://policecanada.ca/GRC122.jpg)

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Post by: Suave on July 11, 2003, 02:12:00 PM

Mall cops ?

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Post by: BEVO on July 11, 2003, 02:22:11 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Can't be any gayer than a Mini!

(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ripsnort60/minimini.jpg)

I agree, but RIP, aren't the mini's made by your beloved BMW?

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Post by: Naso on July 12, 2003, 09:56:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mini D
In Italy, that's a big car.
(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ripsnort60/minimini.jpg)

MiniD

in Italy, THIS is a big car!!

[SIZE=8] Catch it, if you can!![/SIZE]

(http://www.fantasycars.com/F501.jpg)

(http://www.fantasycars.com/F505.jpg)

:D :p

;)

Gotcha!

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Post by: midnight Target on July 12, 2003, 10:01:15 AM

National Lampoons Vacation... Christy Brinkley in a Ferrari.... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...



(http://tomsquotes.amhosting.net/movies/vacation/ferrari.jpg)

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Post by: cpxxx on July 12, 2003, 02:01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mini D
In Italy, that's a big car.

MiniD

Oh yeah:

(http://policecanada.ca/carabinieri07.jpg)

Title: You can run.
Post by: cpxxx on July 12, 2003, 02:03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Mini D
In Italy, that's a big car.

MiniD

Well maybe:

(http://policecanada.ca/suzzara01.jpg)