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Amazing story. I even got a little choked up near the end. Worth the read.
======From the St. Petersburg Times========
A message from Roger
Standing on Clearwater's Pier 60, a little boy put a note in a bottle: "To whoever finds this, please write me a letter and let me know." Nineteen years went by. Roger, we got your note.
By LANE DeGREGORY, Times Staff Writer
© St. Petersburg Times
published July 10, 2003
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In 1984, 7-year-old Roger J. Clay slipped a note in a Pepsi bottle and plopped it in the gulf. A St. Petersburg man found it in the canal behind his home on July Fourth.
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ST. PETERSBURG - At first, he thought it was trash.
The bottle was bobbing in a canal behind Don Smith's house in Venetian Isles, drifting toward his dock. He saw it on the Fourth of July, while he was playing with his grandchildren. He grabbed a fishing net and scooped the bottle out of the murky water.
One side was fuzzy with algae. The other was clear. Black electrical tape was wound tightly around the top. The rusty cap said "Pepsi" in an obsolete logo.
Inside, there was a note.
The paper was folded, scorched sepia by the sun. It had been ripped from a school writing tablet, the kind with dotted blue lines. Smith pulled it out and smoothed it on a table.
"To whoever finds this letter please write me a letter and let me know," the note said in shaky pencil. "Roger J. Clay, 890 Linwood Ave., Fairfield Ohio, 45014."
Don and his wife, Carol, know the place. They are from Cincinnati, about 25 miles from Fairfield. Their son Sean works in Fairfield. "What are the odds?" Don asked.
Then he saw the date. On the bottom right corner, the paper said: 12/27/84.
That bottle had been in the water for almost 19 years.
Don's daughter-in-law is a teacher. By the handwriting, she said, whoever wrote the note was probably 7 or 8 years old. Roger J. Clay would be 26 or 27 now.
"Wouldn't it be great if we could find him and let him know we found his bottle?" Carol said.
"I'll try," said Don. "But 19 years is a long, long time."
That night, after the fireworks, Don got on the Internet. He didn't find Roger J. Clay. He found this:
"Roger K. Clay, 890 Linwood Ave., Fairfield, Ohio."
A few more clicks and Don found public records showing Roger K. was 49. "Must be the kid's father," Don told his wife. "And it looks like he still lives at the same house. What are the odds?"
Don tried to find a phone number, but had no luck.
So he wrote a letter: "I found your son's message in a bottle behind my house in St. Petersburg, Florida," he wrote. "I just thought you would want to know."
He mailed the letter the next morning, Saturday.
On Monday, he called the St. Petersburg Times.
Don and Carol Smith are 56 and retired. Don owned a Cincinnati business that manufactured trailers to haul mobile television studios. Carol was a Realtor. "I couldn't believe it. Could a bottle really last that long out there? In Tampa Bay?" Don asked. "Geez, 19 years!"
Back at work, we tried to find out more about the boy who wrote the message. Caryn Baird, a Times researcher, tapped into electronic databases, tracked all sorts of records. But she couldn't come up with a Roger J. Clay.
Then she scanned Social Security files. There he was.
"He's dead," she said.
There had been an article in the paper.
Nine days after his 21st birthday, Roger J. Clay was driving home on his new Suzuki. "His motorcycle went left of center and collided head-on with a pickup," the Columbus Dispatch reported. "Police are still trying to determine why Clay's motorcycle went left of center."
It happened on July 10, 1998. Five years ago today.
I called Don Smith and read him the news.
He coughed. Or choked. Or something. "Oh my God. Oh my God. I knew it," he said. "That's terrible. I can't explain it. Oh my God. I just had this feeling something had happened to that kid." Now Don was even more determined to find Roger's parents. "Imagine what that message would mean to them," he said.
So Caryn found a new address and a phone number for Roger's dad. Then she found a number for someone she thought might be his mom, at a different address. I gave the numbers to Don.
A half-hour later, he called me back.
"You're not going to believe this," he said.
Roger's dad wasn't home. So Don had called the other number, the one for Lisa M. Ferguson, who used to be married to Roger K. Clay. A woman had answered. No, Lisa wasn't home. "I'm Lisa's sister," the woman said. "Can I help?"
Don explained why he was calling.
"Oh my God!" the woman gasped. "Lisa is away," she said. Every year this time, she goes away. "She can't stand to be in Ohio around the anniversary of the accident."
She gave Don a cell phone number.
"Lisa is down in Florida," her sister said. "In Seminole."
Lisa had just come back from the pool when her cell phone rang. She and her husband, Al, were cooling off in their hotel room.
When Don told Lisa he had found a bottle, she started screaming. She knew the rest. She remembers that note. She remembers the day her son wrote it.
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They were in Clearwater, celebrating Christmas with her sister. Roger was 7. His dad took him fishing on Pier 60. Roger wrote the note and took tape from the tackle box and sealed the note in the bottle and tossed it off the pier. Lisa remembers telling him he was littering.
Roger was a happy, active kid. He liked to pretend to climb the walls like Spider-Man. He liked shooting squirrels with his dad. He raced dirt bikes. He fished. And he dropped a Pepsi bottle in the water even though his mother disapproved.
Now, 19 years later, a stranger had called and given her back her son.
"Here I am, trying to escape Roger's death, and he reaches out and gives me this message, this gift," she said.
Lisa told Don she wanted to see him. She wanted to hold that bottle. She wanted to touch that note, trace Roger's childish letters with her finger.
Don wanted to see Lisa, too. He wanted to learn about Roger.
They agreed to meet for dinner at 7:30 Tuesday night.
How does it happen? Can a message really float around in a bottle for 19 years and surface so close to where it started?
"I'm not at all surprised," said Robert Weisberg. He is a professor in the College of Marine Science at the University of South Florida, St. Petersburg. He makes models of currents, tracks tides and studies how objects travel in water.
"There would be no problem at all getting a bottle from Clearwater's Pier 60 to Tampa Bay. Water does move," he said. "There are currents out there that are driven by wind. There are tides. It certainly is reasonable for something like that to stay in circulation around this area."
The bottle could have gotten hung up in a mangrove somewhere and stayed there for 15 years, Weisberg said. It could have moved around a bit, floated down to Sanibel Island and come back up into the bay again. It could have circulated up the gulf toward the Panhandle, then gone to Texas and come back under the Sunshine Skyway bridge. "Once something drifts offshore, there's no telling," he said.
Vembu Subramanian, who works in USF's office of Coastal Ocean Monitoring and Prediction Systems, said the bottle could have traveled thousands of paths from Clearwater to Venetian Isles. "There could have been boats moving it. It could have bounced through all those little islands. Who knows what kinds of influences could have impacted its path all those years?"
All day Tuesday, Roger J. Clay's mother couldn't stop smiling. And crying. And smiling.
She called her daughter in Ohio. She called her brothers and sisters. She called Roger's dad, who cried so hard he had to hang up.
"I had forgotten all about that bottle. It's kind of hard to put into words, all the emotions that brings back," Roger K. Clay told me from Ohio. "I told Lisa, it was like he was trying to remind us he was still with us."
Lisa told Roger's dad she would get to see the bottle that night. She and Al got to the restaurant early. At 7:40 p.m., a man with blue eyes and salt-and-pepper hair walked up, holding a bubble-wrapped bottle. Lisa smothered him, weeping, without even introducing herself. Don hugged her back. Hard. Then they stood there, in the lobby of the restaurant, holding on and sobbing into each other's shoulders. Their spouses stood by, dabbing at their eyes.
"Isn't this unreal?" Carol Smith asked.
"He's still touching lives," Al Ferguson said. "He was an amazing kid."
Over Diet Cokes and iced teas, salads and flaky rolls, the two couples talked about Roger. How he loved to play practical jokes, rig buckets of water above his sister's bedroom door, string fishing line across the hallway. How he lettered in football three years in high school. How he played varsity baseball. How the girls all loved him. He loved country music, they said, and fishing and deer hunting.
"He was buried in his blue jeans."
Ever since he was a kid, Roger had wanted a motorcycle. He begged his mom, then - after his parents got divorced - he started in on his stepdad. They kept saying no. Too dangerous.
So the day he turned 21, Roger bought a brand new Suzuki GSX-R750W. He drove it to his mom's house, where he still lived. She turned white. He grinned.
But his bike kept breaking down. The fuel hose kept popping off, killing the engine. Roger took the bike back to the dealership four times the first week. Five years ago today, he picked it up after it was supposed to be fixed again. He and two friends headed down the highway. Roger's fuel hose dropped off a few miles from home. The engine cut out and he crossed the center line.
"It's not natural," Lisa said. Under the table, she cradled Roger's Pepsi bottle in her lap. "You're not supposed to have to bury your baby."
Lisa slipped her wallet from her purse and pulled out a photo. Roger's high school graduation portrait. He was wearing a blue oxford and jeans.
"What a nice-looking kid," Don said. "What a shame."
"He was studying to be an FBI agent," Lisa said. "He was going to school during the day and working third shift. Everyone loved him. More than 400 people came to his funeral."
A few weeks after the funeral, she said, a notice came in the mail. Suzuki was recalling its GSX-R750W line because of a fault in the fuel system. Lisa called a lawyer. She spent five years suing Suzuki. Finally, in February, she settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
"The money will never bring back Roger," she told her dinner companions. "But you all have."
"I dread this time of year every year. It's the worst. But now I have something wonderful to think about," Lisa said. She reached across the table, grabbed Don and Carol's hands. "You all have given me so much to be happy about. You have given me this message from Roger. He's still playing tricks on me."
When dinner was over, the two couples walked out into the dark. "Why don't you all come visit us in Ohio?" Lisa asked the Smiths. She plans to put the bottle on her mantel, and wants them to see it.
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Good story!
Here's one not so good, but a gentle childhood memory:
When I was like 9, I took 3 helium balloons and made a paper basket and taped a note in the bottom of the basket with the message "This is an air stream test done by "so and so" If you find this basket, please send me the basket and note back to "Address here" and a reward will be sent."
2 weeks later, in a small town in South Eastern Wisconsin, it was mailed back by some kids who found it in a field. (it originated in Forest Lake, Minnesota). I sent a $1 reward! (hey, in 1969, a buck went along way!) We (dad and I) estimated the balloon traveled 450 miles before it lost its helium.
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was this before or after you were molested. was just wondering if this was done to supress memorys.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
was this before or after you were molested. was just wondering if this was done to supress memorys.
Well, Ask your mother...she *was* pretty good.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Well, Ask your mother...she *was* pretty good.
Holy Crap, that was a frikking stroke of come back genius.
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i know when ive been zinged!
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Originally posted by Furious
Holy Crap, that was a frikking stroke of come back genius.
Considering the level of initial attack, I imagine Rip was being considerate enough to avoid sending a retort over Frogboy's head.
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*lip smack* :D
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Geez Rip....is there anything you havent done? Every thread in here when someone tells a story you always have to come up with something to top them.
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topping dead people is one of my goals in life as well. i have a 4 car carpeted garage with american flags stabled to every inch of my fake wood paneling in it.
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Yes Froggy, we know of your aspirations, but as I've told you before, please KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! What you propose is illegal and quite disgusting. So again I ask you...keep your "topping" fantasies to yourself.
SOB
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your right SOB if i keep letting things slip out they will figure out why i keep applying for med school
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Frog, Ive never been exposed to someone before who thinks they are so clever and yet so wrong all at the same time.
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Then you obviously need some recordings of yourself when you were a teenager. :D
SOB
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actually ive met far more people far more diluted then myself. of course if you interacted with actually people you would come to find this out for yourself as well.
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well ...
the message in the bottle story was kinda neat .
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Here's one not so good, but a gentle childhood memory:
lol, when you said "not so good" I expected the basket to come back with a dead animal in it (or otherwise defiled).
-Sik
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Originally posted by sling322
Geez Rip....is there anything you havent done? Every thread in here when someone tells a story you always have to come up with something to top them.
Maybe you missed the first part of my post:
Here's one not so good, but a gentle childhood memory:
Or maybe its the Texas school system that allows you to cheat on your English tests....:p
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
actually ive met far more people far more diluted then myself. of course if you interacted with actually people you would come to find this out for yourself as well.
Wow - thats fantastic Frogger. That makes Rip's 'your mom' retort look like the stuff of legends.
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The mesage in a bottle story was neat.. Him dieing wasn't.
I launched a few when I was about the same age as him, a couple when I was a little older. My bike license is happening in "2 weeks" time. I just hope I don't end up in the same state.
Gatso
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nice story and all, but how does losing a fuel line make you swerve over the center of a road? :confused:
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It's kind of a nice story, in that the families put so much meaning into it and took a certain amount of comfort out of the whole thing...
But I don't get it. Can someone explain to me what is so neat about it? Guy puts message in bottle to be found. Message in bottle gets found. I was waiting for some kind of twist, but nothing interesting happens. What's the big deal here?
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Originally posted by loser
nice story and all, but how does losing a fuel line make you swerve over the center of a road? :confused:
I imagine if the fuel cutoff was violent enough the rear wheel would lock up - could send you in any direction.
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Neat story, interesting thing to see Venetian Isles in here as that is were I grew up. I lived at 2022 Illinois Ave from 3rd grade to 6th then moved one street (canal) over to 1974 Hawaii Ave untill 10th grade when we moved to the state of Indiana. Great times and this story brought them back.
By the way we lived in Indiana for one year, the winter of 1978 (worst blizzard you ever saw) then back to Florida where we stayed entrenched eversense.
By the way is it that time of the month for some of you, I mean chill guys.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I imagine if the fuel cutoff was violent enough the rear wheel would lock up - could send you in any direction.
Nope, don't buy it. No motor just runs out of gas if the fuel line is cut/blocked. Sputter sputter, then blah maybe. Pull the clutch and ride it out. Besides bikes go straight with the back wheel locked up.
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Originally posted by Nash
It's kind of a nice story, in that the families put so much meaning into it and took a certain amount of comfort out of the whole thing...
But I don't get it. Can someone explain to me what is so neat about it? Guy puts message in bottle to be found. Message in bottle gets found. I was waiting for some kind of twist, but nothing interesting happens. What's the big deal here?
the "neat" part for me was the fact he kinda spoke to them from the grave
sorta like discovering a roll of film getting it developed and seeing pictures of a loved one who is no longer here
or seeing a video of that person you hadn't see before and hearing his voice again ...
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Originally posted by loser
nice story and all, but how does losing a fuel line make you swerve over the center of a road? :confused:
Do you ride? Are you familiar with what direction a motorcycles wants to go when you brake (or lose power) in a corner? It tries to straighten right out or drift wide at the least.
Seems like kind of a lame story. Rip's was much better. I'm glad he posted it. Afterall... someone gets a buck in Rip's story. Someone died in the other one.
MiniD
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He had only been riding for nine days. Thats not much experience at all.
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For me the kicker was the history. Like Eagler said, finding a roll of film with the image of a deceased loved on it (which isn't too far from a true story of a man who went searching for his brother who had been reported missing while climbing a glacier - he found his brother's body and the body of the climbing companion, along with his brother's camera).
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The only thing I can figure, pertaining to the bike veering left...is the fuel selector on all the Ninjas and FZRs I've had are on the left. If the engine sputters out, just normal reaction is to either sit up and/or lean left to check the fuel selector is "ON" or, if low on gas, switch it to "Reserve". (under the tank)
My (uneducated) guess is engine sputtered, leaned left to check the fuel was on, or move it to reserve..OR glance at the fuel hose...got distracted, veered left (from leaning that way) and thus the accident. Again, just a guess
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Originally posted by Mini D
Do you ride? Are you familiar with what direction a motorcycles wants to go when you brake (or lose power) in a corner? It tries to straighten right out or drift wide at the least.
Seems like kind of a lame story. Rip's was much better. I'm glad he posted it. Afterall... someone gets a buck in Rip's story. Someone died in the other one.
MiniD
come over here right NOW and clean off this monitor!!!!
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I imagine if the fuel cutoff was violent enough the rear wheel would lock up - could send you in any direction.
Wouldn't happen that way. You'd get no response from the throttle, obviously, but your engine wouldn't seize and lock the rear wheel just because there was no longer any fuel flowing.
Anyway, this kid wanted a motorcycle and the first one he ever rode was a GSX-R750??? I rode bikes for years and it wasn't until I was 26 and held my motorcycle license for 10 years that I bought my dream bike: the gixer. Too bad about the kid dying.
I'd have to agree with LePaul's assessment. The kid probably leaned over to see what happened (although how much could he see with the farings in the way), and having such limited experience riding, swerved without noticing.