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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Midnight on July 09, 2003, 03:02:42 PM

Title: How About Some News?
Post by: Midnight on July 09, 2003, 03:02:42 PM
Someone at HTC has enough time to move treads to the appropriate forum... How about using that time to give us some news on AHII instead?
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: devious on July 09, 2003, 03:07:18 PM
IIRC there are TWO core developers on this project, which is scheduled for Q3, which will end by 9-31-2003.  This is not EA or Ubi Soft, it`s a good handful of people developing THE GAME.

So why don`t you just STFU and fly ?

Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: mia389 on July 09, 2003, 04:19:58 PM
News is always good. Check the TOD message board pyro puts some stuff up there sometimes. I cant wait until some screenshots start poping up though :-)
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Yeager on July 09, 2003, 07:36:23 PM
There most definately are two flocks in AH.

Flock one that loves the game and wants to remain engaged and enlightened by developement and communication of such

and

Flock two that has absolutely no desire nor obvious emotional capacity to sustain such thought above or beyond basic minimal gameplay requirements.

Unfortunately Flock Two pretty much has the run of the house
these days and the game suffers.

As for Sept 03 being the golden era of AH2 one would think the likes of Pyro, HiTech and crew could make at least a minimal effort to bring the community some minimal information regarding developement of same.  Hats off to Skuzzy for at least making token appearances, from time to time, here on this  BbS and less frequently it seems -in the game, but the content regarding the upcoming version has been non existent from anyone employed at HTC.

Just some basic fundamental token customer appreciation in the likes of an AH2 news update and/or the death of hourslong twilight and black inky darkness incognito would go a long way towards soothing leathel boredom and frustration of the game for me.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Karnak on July 09, 2003, 08:14:54 PM
The 2003 Con is coming up shortly.  I'll bet we get some good new info out of that.

Hold your horses a couple more weeks.  If nothing is forthcoming then, well, I'll be pretty frusterated too.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: SOB on July 09, 2003, 10:06:00 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that they're not sitting around on their thumbs doing nothing.  Once there's news to be had and time to post it, I'm sure that's exactly what they'll do.


SOB
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Yeager on July 09, 2003, 10:45:01 PM
Once there's news to be had and time to post it, I'm sure that's exactly what they'll do.
====
Kee-Ryst!  This aint the fediddlein Manhatten project.  AH2 is a new sim.  We havent seen or heard squat about it ....nadda, nothing.

Its a real disservice to the customers.  Especially those that have been here since Sept99.  We deserve to be brought along.

These newer dorks, the onces that havent learnt to set views or guns convergence (or dont even know what BoB is) are just too new to worry about.  Its the guys that have been dedicated customers for damned near FOUR fediddleING YEARS that are getting the raw deal and being dissed here.

Either give some inspiration to stick around for a dead 9 months or expect long time customers to get pissed and start moaning.

Granted SOB, you went out on a limb.  Im just disappointed.

Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: oboe on July 09, 2003, 10:58:12 PM
Flock 1 here.   Yeager's comments seem right on.

I'm starting to wonder if news about AH2 from the con is going to be worth anything at all.    I'm really surprised that HTC doesn't make more of an effort to keep the dedicated community informed.   Maybe there really is nothing to tell.   :(
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: SOB on July 10, 2003, 12:11:14 AM
Hehehe, go get 'em Yeager.  :)  What the hell do I know...I cancelled my acct a few months ago, but it was more due to a lack of time and funds than anything else.


SOB
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Mini D on July 10, 2003, 12:33:18 AM
I'm all for patience till the new version is released... but I do believe a little bit of news goes a long way when its been 5 months since the last real news and 8 months since the last release.

MiniD
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Cooley on July 10, 2003, 01:44:02 AM
I dont know if constant "Board Pressure" caused IEN to release WB3  too early or not,
But i think it may have helped

I would think HTC wouldnt want to make the same mistake.

Cause as soon as we get a taste of screeshots,etc etc.
they we be hounded 10x worse till we get it for open beta

Take your time HTC, add a new Aircraft or Tank here and there in the current AH to keep us happy please :D

And dont do what IEN did when they got WB3 up and runnin
* Came out too early, wasnt ready
* Discontinued any support for thier original game (2.77)
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: bigsky on July 10, 2003, 02:06:41 AM
i agree with cooley. lets not run down to screw one cow, lets walk down and screw the whole herd. leave htc alone in this matter of ah2, there not going to build it any faster with people proding them in the butt about it. i doubt the game we have now is going to have any adjustments or additions. what would be the point. it would be like fixing a house you are going to tear down. so children christmas is not till december 25 and htc decides when that is, so shut up and deal with it.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Fariz on July 10, 2003, 03:32:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
Kee-Ryst!  This aint the fediddlein Manhatten project.  AH2 is a new sim.  We havent seen or heard squat about it ....nadda, nothing.


Not very correct. It is some information, FAQ, some interviews, some posts (for example we know they change the flight model and quite a lot about how they change it).

I am also unsatisfied with the lack of information. But I think that if they had something presentable they would show it already.

Probably graphix part of engine still is not in a good shape.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Maniac on July 10, 2003, 04:42:02 AM
Quote
Its a real disservice to the customers. Especially those that have been here since Sept99. We deserve to be brought along.


You deserve squat... If you are an unhappy CUSTOMER then please vote with your credit card....
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Midnight on July 10, 2003, 07:48:09 AM
I think at the very least, HTC could update the community on how things are going with development.

Perhaps just something like a news flash that says

Quote
Good News hypothetically posted by HTC
We are nearing final development of AHII and most of the major work is completed. We still have some bugs and things to work on before we are ready to release it for beta. We know everyone wants to know when, but we cannot say until we get AHII running smoothly and reliably. We also know the customer base is really chomping at the bit to see the new release, so all we can say now is hang in there, it will be worth the wait.
:)

or

Quote
Bad News hypothetically posted by HTC
Some unexpected problems in the game design have forced us to scrap a major portion of the code. The release of AHII may be pushed back because of this. We appologize to the community and know you all want to play the "new" game, but we cannot release a product that is not the quality you all deserve. Thank you for your patience and understanding whille we work on completing AHII
:(
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Mini D on July 10, 2003, 07:56:53 AM
Analogies to a hurried WB3 release?  Puhleeze!

WB3 was released about a year late.  There was nothing hurried about it... it may not have been ready, but "hurried" is the wrong word to use.  Perhaps "innevitable"?

I trust that HTC is working on AH2 and will release it somewhere around when they claimed they would.  It would just be nice if there were a little news posted with updates and perhaps a screenshot or two.

I haven't seen a "DAMMIT! WE WANT AH2 NOW! post anywhere.  How you can read "please give us some news" as to read that is beyond me.

MiniD
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: muckmaw on July 10, 2003, 10:10:02 AM
Maybe there is a major problem with the progess, and they are afraid to say so, because they fear a mass defection of those simply keeping their accounts open to see how AH2 turns out.

My fear is if there was anything good to report, they would have already.

How long does it take you to type the following sentence:

"AH2 is approximately 50% completed."

Or

"AH2 is on schedule for the announced release date".

No one is rushing them. I'm still enjoying AH, and eagerly await AH2, but I'm not rushing. A simple one sentence remark would be a nice gesture from HTC
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Hawklore on July 10, 2003, 10:24:18 AM
No News=Good News


And if your going to the convention just be lucky you are.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: SlapShot on July 10, 2003, 10:30:11 AM
Its 1 week to the CON ... If there is nothing divulged during or after the CON, then let the moaning begin. Until then, I would suggest a little more patience.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Eagler on July 10, 2003, 10:38:28 AM
HTC is way too busy meeting with Microsoft, dicussing a selling price, to spend time coding another game for you spoiled brats to cry about in 6 months...
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: T0J0 on July 10, 2003, 11:18:52 AM
Maybe everyone is approaching this the wrong way...Bribery may be the solution?! Try sending several pizza's to the HTC office
 and see if that gets some insider information.
 Or a good bottle of Scotch might loosen up the info...

I don't think the whining is getting anyone anywhere....

0J0T
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: laz on July 10, 2003, 11:22:30 AM
Heres some news, I can wipe my own ass. Be happy for that to hold you over for a few weeks. ;)
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: laz on July 10, 2003, 11:50:40 AM
I don't know what to say...:(   thanks :p
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Shiva on July 10, 2003, 01:26:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
Analogies to a hurried WB3 release?  Puhleeze!

WB3 was released about a year late.  There was nothing hurried about it... it may not have been ready, but "hurried" is the wrong word to use.  Perhaps "innevitable"?


If it was released before the developers fixed enough bugs to make it a functional, stable software package, then it was rushed out the door, regardless of whether or not it was released after its projected release date. The reasons for doing it are legion, running from greed ("We're past our release date, still paying developer salaries, and we're not getting any ROI on our development expenditure") to callousness ("It's still beta quality; release it anyway. We're Microsoft; they'll buy it, and 5,000,000 people paying to beta-test the software will find the bugs faster than 5,000 regular beta testers").
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: myelo on July 10, 2003, 01:28:41 PM
Haven't you been reading your weekly email updates? You know the ones that HTC sends to their preferred customers?
Title: HiTech, let us know....
Post by: lasse on July 10, 2003, 01:31:25 PM
It has been a wery long wait for AH2, I know you have a lot on your mind, but I believe that you really should give us something about AH2.

Even if there is something wrong, a problem that has made any progress stuck for a while, anything !!

Any news is good news at this stage, I see lots of " I am tired of AH/Waiting for AH2" types of posts.

I believe this is simply because the lack of any news at all.

So please, throw us a bone, we really need it because we are starving here ;-)

Lasse (The hungry one)
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Tarmac on July 10, 2003, 02:01:36 PM
Con in 1 week (Bah can't say 2 weeks)

He can't go the whole time without dropping some kind of hint.  ;)
Title: News from HTC
Post by: Swoop on July 10, 2003, 02:28:43 PM
Since the announcement of AH2 we've had.......

1)  A screenshot of the new hanger.  Which....while nice and all, shows us absolutely bugger all aside from a slightly different layout.  The overall graphics engine and terrain hasn't changed at all in the pic posted so doesn't satisfy the hunger for more details.

2)  A discussion about remodelling of the flight model.  Well yeah, this was great.  However, nothing concrete has come out of it.  Ok, we know that HT is modelling more lift areas to the wings but that's about it.



In fact that is it.



Now when people first read the announcement saying "3rd quarter" there was a lotta whining which was silenced by people like me saying that they'll be screenshots and news and new stuff to mull over and a BETA TEST that'll keep us all busy and interested while we're waiting for 3rd quarter to roll around.

Ahem.

It's 3rd quarter HT.  We've had 1 screenshot and a little bit of info about wings.

There's threads all over asking for more info, more threads saying we're starting to get bored and even some threads saying people are cancelling accounts and wont come back until AH2 is out.  Now sure, only you know the figures but surely this is an indication that all is not well with the customer base.

throw us a bone![/B]

Please.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)

P.S.  yeah yeah, a whine has been recorded and all that crap.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 10, 2003, 02:30:40 PM
This is what happens when you take away boobs.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Dowding on July 10, 2003, 02:31:05 PM
Where is that screenshot? Missed that one.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Tarmac on July 10, 2003, 02:32:04 PM
Can we consolidate all of these "throw us a bone" threads into one big one, rather than getting 3 of them every day?
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 10, 2003, 02:34:20 PM
Tarmac, that would make more sense.  Unfortunately that would distribute one thread's worth of attention amongst three people.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: gofaster on July 10, 2003, 02:37:34 PM
Waiting for AH2 is why I started to fly the clown-tailed Ki-61.  I needed a new challenge.

Now that I have a positive K/D in the Ki, maybe I should try my hand at level bombing.

Or the P-40B.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Tumor on July 10, 2003, 02:40:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
This is what happens when you take away boobs.


Who had thier boobs taken away?  This is catastrophic!  Where'd the boobs get taken away too?  Can the boobs be replaced?.. or remodeled?
Title: Hey HiTech
Post by: Tumor on July 10, 2003, 02:41:33 PM
PWETTY PWEEEEZ?
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Grimm on July 10, 2003, 02:52:00 PM
Perk them...

hmmm...  Perked Boobs...  Is that a good thing or a bad?

;)
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Tarmac on July 10, 2003, 02:53:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Tarmac, that would make more sense.  Unfortunately that would distribute one thread's worth of attention amongst three people.


Maybe they could type in all caps?
Title: Hey! HT's busy!
Post by: Arlo on July 10, 2003, 02:54:29 PM
He's got a deadline to make, ya know! Ahem ....

Play! Play! Leave `im alone! :D
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Tarmac on July 10, 2003, 03:01:26 PM
Waiiiit a minute..... :confused:

Skuzzy, you been up to something here?  :)

ed: Sweet, yes you have .
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Skuzzy on July 10, 2003, 03:03:50 PM
Merged several threads about the same thing into one thread.
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Tumor on July 11, 2003, 03:47:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Merged several threads about the same thing into one thread.


Boobies or News?
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: JimBear on July 11, 2003, 08:07:09 AM
The only things newsworthy posted here lately are Boobies  ;)
Title: Hey HiTech, any news?
Post by: Shiva on July 11, 2003, 08:24:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JimBear
The only things newsworthy posted here lately are Boobies  ;)


Well, then, here you go... two nice boobies, a yellow polka-dot bikini -- what more could you ask for?  :D

(http://yerf.com/thomjuli/bikiboob.jpg)