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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: funkedup on July 13, 2003, 09:38:57 PM
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Purps
"Landing" fields to capture them.
$2/hr keeping the tards out.
:)
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No La-7's.
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No one whining about $14.95 per month tards.
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i miss the tracers. the tracers in AH are "vapor" instead of "liquids"
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I miss.... oh, wait....
I don't miss anything.... I'm still there! :p
Hiya funked!
BB
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he lives in K S S R now:D
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What I miss about WB:
- Instant resets without the arena going haywire so you'd get vulched by your erstwhile ack during takeoff. That was always a good laugh.
- Radar with just 2 arrows.
- Those huge dead-6 blindspots behind the headrest which, combined with the relative lack of radar, made for many excellent swoops :D.
- Uber P39s cruising at nearly 400 knots, leaving long trails of radio flames in their wake.
- Those puffs and trails of smoke that looked like big astericks :)
- KILLME
- The dueling arena that spawned you at 15k every time you died. Great for squad rumbles using the same field, just 1 big vertical meatgrinder ;).
- No killshooter (miss that from DOS AW also)
- Runway craters that would wreck your gear.
- B25H
- As has been said before, no Lamer7s.
- As has been said before, no $15/month slackers.
What I don't miss about WB:
- 4 countries
- Ki84
- Autogunners
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1.11r2
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Things I miss
2.77
Flying with the "Bastards"
Shooting down bobn
Sunday nights in the TA
S3s
KILLME, I never did get a chance to kill him
Things I dont miss
RPS
Axis VS Allies
Warbirds III
That IEN launcher or whatever it was called. What a freaking POS that was.
KI84s
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I miss your mom!
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Things I would miss if I didnt have to cancle my account because of piss poor management:
1.) Axis v. Allies
2.) Sorry... the community seemed more mature.
3.) Multi-colored AAA (calibre)
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I miss the P-38F and the whines when each revision came on how the P-47 was made either uber or crappy again and flying with the MOL when I was a member.
Ack-Ack
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It was my first. I loved it so much that my wife and I struggled through this one (she saw the CC bills). Will agree the community (on the whole) seemed much more mature. KILLME was cool, although I never saw him:). Friends I had made there are missed. I made new friends here, and they have turned out pretty decent ones at that.
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Well, the community was smaller, and therefore you recognized almost everyone flying, i guess i miss that...
And Milis score pages off-course....
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Not a fediddlein thing.....
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I do miss the Ki.84, though I'd say I did better in the Ki.61 there as well. But our Ki.61 is much better than WBs.
I miss approaching a base that had been attacked and the first thing you saw was the black columns of smoke rising in the distance. Here you see the whole base first, and then when the smoke finally appears, it's appearance is short and fat.
I miss the A6M3, Ki.43, P-39, and the P-39F.
I miss the long, long wait between updates....er, nevermind. ;)
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landing a field to capture it.
not much else.
lazs
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OMSG's radio transmissions. :D
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I don't miss one single thing about Warbirds the game. Well maybe just one and that would be the different colored tracers but now in AH I just fly with tracers off.
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A long time ago I enjoyed the fact that the purkles had a high percentage of Pony dweebs, the goldies had a high percentage of "Men of Leather" and the frogs had quite alot of blue planes.
Being able to adjust the color of your tracers worked well. My gunnery sucks here. It sucked there too but it was "better" because of that feature.
But that was along time ago.
No killshooter (miss that from DOS AW also)
Runway craters that would wreck your gear.
WB always had killshooter on in the Main until recently ( Bad idea IMO ) Runway craters were bad because the spawn point was bombed. Gaming the game. For all the "strat" guys it was SOP.
What I miss from WBIII is absolutely nothing. Green jello terrain, mushy FM's that change weekly and a permant murkyness. It's like August in SF everyday of the year. The "realist" vocal majority there ensures the eventual demise of the game.
Some good people there, it's a shame their passion is slowly dying with the game.
Cept for that BB bastage...
Whassssup BB ?? Good to see ya droppin in.
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i tried the offline version. the 6x .50 cals are modeled there like 4x cannons while shooting fighters.
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I dont know what game you where playing Ike but the 50s sucked in the one I played. IMO they are much more effective in AH, they kill like they should.
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Have to agree 50's much better in AH.
Miss RPS, Historical Cockpits, B-25 C and H, B-24, Ju-52, '38f and Ki-84
and the Purp- Red Rivalry was so intense, no one ever switched sides, we truly hated each other, there would be some guys you'd want to whoop on if you went to the Con :D j/k
< Edit > V yes, there is some vulchin,
but attack group probably closed field quickly,
so nobody can roll, so Vulchin is usually brief
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do people vulch in WB?
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
do people vulch in WB?
Absolutely not!
Warbirders are much more honorable than that! They'd even let you land if you were wounded and had some kills--after every kill, one gets a salute from the defeated enemy and the skies are not cloudy all day.
h
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no ANSQR radar.
and Spectre
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Originally posted by Horn
Absolutely not!
Warbirders are much more honorable than that! They'd even let you land if you were wounded and had some kills--after every kill, one gets a salute from the defeated enemy and the skies are not cloudy all day.
h
LOL!
Ack-Ack
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nopoop said:
WB always had killshooter on in the Main until recently ( Bad idea IMO )
Hmm, could be you're right. I seem to recall fragging squaddies there at one time, though, when we were all going for the same vulch ;). But maybe I'm confusing that with DOS AW. Anyway, :mad: I HATE KILLSHOOTER :mad: and I miss games that did not have it :)
Runway craters were bad because the spawn point was bombed. Gaming the game. For all the "strat" guys it was SOP.
Hell, it was SOP for me. I could never get the hang of jabo ord in WB so I always bombed runway ends and intersections. Those things were big enough for me to hit :D
I never had a problem with runway cratering. They do it in real life and I came to WB from AW where you didn't pork fields, you closed them by dropping bombs on the runway. There were no craters in AW even 1 bomb short of the number needed to close the field, so I thought having craters in WB was added realism.
Of course, if craters DID do damage in AH, then airfield attacks would be by formations of B17s dropping 72x100# bombs to shut the place down, allowing easy capture of relatively intact fields. Except for the craters, there'd be relatively little porkage. OTOH, craters would let CAs defend themselves from kamikazes better.
I dunno, it's probably not a good idea for AH. But it still bugs me that craters on the runway have no effect. It just ain't realistic.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Purps
"Landing" fields to capture them.
$2/hr keeping the tards out.
I miss those too. That $2/hour was money well spent. But landing fields to capture them got silly, because a single B17 could close and capture a small field.
Some things I miss - The crappy connections, and having to fly in the early morning just to get a decent connection (ISP bandwidth). That meant I ran into, and flew side by side with Lazs, as it would be about 10pm PST.
- firing 70% of P47 ammo into a zeke with no result, then watching it warp up my screen with a fuel leak.
- KillMe - I won a KillMe shirt once. KillMe was always one of the trainers, but they didn't like it if you told everyone who it was. I had an irate email from =varg= about that...
- Daily ordnance requirement tweaks, FM nudges, bullet radius tweaks, and anything to do with "hardness". Gawd, how did I ever put up with that crap? What bollocks - may it never happen to AH.
- 2.6 - that was the release in which I would line up a ju52 in my 12, pull the trigger back and hold it there with a rubber band wrapped around it, go to make a cup of coffee, and by the time I got back the con might just have started smoking. Seriously, I only ever got 4 kills in the entire month that the 2.6 POS was there.
- Some guy called Glunz who used to rag on me in the AGW BBS.
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Funny, after almost 4 years I recently tried both WB 2.7 & warbirds 3.
My first, last, & main comment was.
DAMM we have it good in AH.
Lord I forgot how much this sucked.
Thank GOD I left WB in the dust long ago to fly AH.
Read AGW occaisionally, you will find it full of major problems, big huge nasty bugs that no one appears to be fixing.
Complaints about Customer service, billing after you close your acct, etc.
Read the AH boards, all you find is a bunch of trivial whines & trolls.
There is nothing serious to talk about because the problems have all been long since dealt with.
Sorry I have no intent to offend anyone.
I also look back on warbirds with fond memories.
But I'll live in the Current AH thank you very much.
HTC
BTW for those of you who think that makes me a fan boi, Gee ya got ONE thing right anyway.
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Ghosth - were you Elvene in WB? If so, did you have a son who was about 6 at the time of the WB2000 con? What a cute little chap he was... :)
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what i miss is that there are no unrealistic hit sprites in WB III. BTW, i can hit targets 1.0 away with Fw-190A-8.
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I never said I missed WB 2.77 or WB 3. None of the things I miss are part of WB anymore. Last good version of WB was 2.5. Once HT and Pyro et al left the company it went downhill fast.
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I think Funked should quit WB's immediately!!! :)
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Having only recently left Warbirds, here's what I miss:
1. A pistol when I'm hitting the silk. At least I could take out some aggression by shooting at the guy who shot me down, even if I only ever killed someone with it ONCE in three years of trying.
2. Configurable tracer color. I could set the tracer to be a different color than the hit flash. Aided visibility.
3. Landing a field capture by yourself. Lotsa fun.
4. Godzilla island.
5. Remember in the very early beta days, when it was Confirmed Kill, and you could telnet into the game server and type commands, chat with people, and so forth? Sometimes I would just love a way to text-chat with folks who are flying when I am at work WITHOUT firing up the entire AH front end.
-Llama
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I miss the purps and JPC.
I don't miss the horrible connects. (That used to plague WB after the NC move. Don't know 'bout now)
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I only miss the newness felt after first arriving from awdos....CK with that foggy terrain was wild after awdos's enviroment.
The first year was cool....glad Dale split. I tend to follow that putz wherever he goes.
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I miss WarBirds' muted dark grim overall aspect where the sun never shown and no monitor could brighten. NOT!
The eternally blind 6 view was almost as bleak.
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Ghost or is a different guy in WB Beet1e, we both started in the EZ Targets originally. F4U fan now with the 444th. Computer guru and a real nice guy. I think he is one of the hosts in the hardware forum now. And he was at the 2000 con. Didn't have his son though. Hamfst had his son with him. Hamfst is dabbling over here now and his son flys Hammys call sign.
Good people.
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I miss landing a field to capture.
I miss walking in the 75mm's from the nose of my B-25H onto an enemy base.
I miss some of the more memorable characters from Warbirds, whether you loved'em or hated'em....dood, scop, eman, lazs, stiglr, LLBM, Vila, snak, Vert, gigg, many others whom I can't remember.
I miss flying Stukas on jet day.
I miss flying naked.
*sigh*
Long Live v1.11r2!
-baxl-
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Originally posted by Stringer
I think Funked should quit WB's immediately!!! :)
I think I will sign up for an account, just so I can quit.
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Heya poopster :)
yeah, stickin' my head in, just to see.
Think I'm gonna install AH for offline training for my kids, since WB's don't do 1v1 anymore.
No account though. Waiting to see AH2. AH1 just doesn't float my boat for some reason.
Ike - they completely porked offline damage as part of the overall effort to try to prevent the fr**h*sting of WBIII like what happened to WB2.77. Same reason 1v1 disappeared. The .50s don't hit like that online, but they do well enough. I don't have any problem killin' with them over there.
Bizket! Howya doin? u awfully quiet on mail list!
Man is it tempting to try to argue some of the stuff above, but ya know what? To each his own. Looks like y'all miss 1.11 or 2.5 more than anything else. *shrug* I love it over there, even with the lower numbers of late. Have fun here guys!
BB
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Someone should start a "What I miss about AH circa 2000", thread .
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Yeager would be your man for that.
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HI banana,
I am here now....
I also miss the people of warbirds also. I do enjoy AH alot but I must admit although I have made some great new friends the majority of people here act like DORKS... heheh flame suit on.
gigg
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Beetle,
Neg bro, I've always been Ghost or a varient.Was Ghostt for most of my warbirds time. There have been lots of ghost's of one spelling or another through the years.
No son here. :(
Spent most of my brand W time hanging out in the HA. If my squadies weren't on you could find me with the 27th Sentai dudes.
I had issues with Hotseat but I never wished anything bad to happen to Brand W.
Sorry to hear they have been going through some hard times over there.
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Miss this stuff:
- The 3 kinds of p38
- The engine sound that changed pitch with your speed (just really added to the immersion factor)
- Pretty Airplane graphics
- Otto (would prefer option of fully player crewed bomber though)
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Don't miss one bit:
- RPS
- Poor quality terrain and sky graphics. (it is like flying in a watercolor painting - everything is blurry and dark)
PS( I don't like the clutter in AH/AH2 either, looks ugly to me - but AH terrains are plenty fine looking with that off. Please retain the "clutter" switch)
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Nope, I'm that "Ghost", Scrambl. But if it was CON 2000, you are probably thinking of Hamfst's son (9 at the time IIRC), since Frank wasn't there. (Edit -> He was at Con 2002 which may be where the confusion came from.)
Was Elvene originally, but I got tired of getting shot down - followed by apologies...
"Sorry, didn't mean that honey!"
(Apparently, everyone thought Elvene was some form of Evelyn).
Then when some guy named Eleven started flying even I couldn't keep it straight - I'd look down in the buffer and go "OMFG! How did I die!?!?!" and for a crazy couple of seconds sit there waiting for lag to catch up to me before realizing. :)
So I became -Ghost in Warbirds, am -Ghost on AGW, still Elvene on the IEN boards, am Ghastly in WWIIOL (every version of Ghost I could think of was taken...) I hang out in the H&S forum on AGW, beta-test for the WarBirds team, and fly with Bmbm's 56th FG in WWIIOL, and am hanging out with what's left of the Barbary Corsairs in another up and coming "soon", "two weeks" sim. (The last year or so has been kinda rough squadron-wise in WB's - I think I'm the last guy standing in WB's.)
By the way, just so I know, what is the AH equivilent of "two weeks"?
Just shadowing Nopoop tonight, looking to see what trouble he's been stirring up over here, and kinda sticking the toes in the water - just in case this last "fiasco" goes the direction it looks like it might be going.
All
Ghastly
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Ghost my friend.
Good to see ya here getting your toe wet. Just damn good to see ya.
Hope to cya up.
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Ya know, when I first got "modern" and bought a 'puter, one of the first things I did was look for a flying game. I found Warbirds. I downloaded it (2.77) and played offline and through modem connect with a buddy (338MAG who plays here when he can find the time)
I thought it was great, but the price for online was more than I could get the wife to agree to. I played a lot offline, and I stunk...I think even the AI enemies were makin fun of me on the text buffer. :p But I still spent many hours playing and dying.
Then one day, I went searchin around and found AH. I can only say that after the short period of being unable to get my plane off the ground I realized that this was the game I preferred.
Now I still got WB2.77 loaded for those times when the phone lines go down, but even then I dont play it. Its just not my cup of tea.
I know there were 4 countries....how did that work out?
I know I liked the 190A8 on WB but prefer 109's in AH, they seem opposites to me depending on which game...does anyone else feel this way, or similar about 2 different planes?
Off line you got airstarts.....was this used on line?
I dont think there is anything that could get me to pay to play WB's now. I'm sure there are some guys over there who feel the same about AH. I think they are wrong ;) :D
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The two weeks is just that .. it starts the first time you enter the online arena's .
As for WB ive only played it offline and on the free weekends now an again.. it just didnt grow on me like this game has .
What i'm really glad about is there isnt all Flaming going on between the players bbs to everyone thats being adult about this !!!
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I really miss the litigious money-grubbing CEO without any love for the game or community.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I really miss the litigious money-grubbing CEO without any love for the game or community.
-- Todd/Leviathn
LOL... exactly!
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Nice to see some old WB names in here. :)
Yes, WB had a four colour set up when I joined - Purple, Green, Red & Gold. I flew Purple, and met Lazs that way (1998). All sides had the same choice of planes, so you would see Spits fighting Spits, 190s fighting 190s etc. That was considered unrealistic, so they brought out the WW2A - Axis V Allied, and only two sides. But...
... the terrain/arena was set up for a four sided game. Suddenly each side had TWO ports and TWO cities. Would destruction of one city affect those airfields closest to the other? iEN never gave us any feedback. I had to fly a plane to one of the cities and bait the acks to see whether it was theirs or ours. Again, no input from iEN.
Many of us thought that we would like the Axis V Allied set up, and we liked the WW2A for a while. But the RPS was tinkered with in a way which meant that one side always had the upper hand. And that led to side switching to be on the side with the best planes available. The RPS began by favouring the Axis. There was a brief period of balance when the Spit ix came out to counter the 190A4, but then it was Allies all the way. The Allies had heavy bombers (B17,B24) and even the B25. I would fly the B17/B24 to 25K... but the best Axis buff was the ju88, which was wheezing at 12K. Add to that the Allies had excellent jabo planes which could up from the CV (F4U/F6F) which, having dropped their (2x1000#) bombs became formidable fighters, whereas the only Axis jabo plane that could operate off the CV was a Zeke, carrying 100# bombs. The 109s were lousy for jabo, and the 190s not much better. The A8 could at least carry a 500Kg bomb.
The result? By mid war, the sideswitchers were flying Allied. I once logged on to see the Axis down to one base. Not satisfied with outclassing the Axis with superior bombers, better fighters, and much more versatile planes off the CV, the Allies would outnumber the Axis 2-1. Part of the side balancing problem occurred because not all planes that flew in WW2 were modelled in WB. So it was always a struggle to provide balance, an effort that ultimately failed.
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I really miss the litigious money-grubbing CEO without any love for the game or community.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Damn. I only entered this thread to say the exact same thing, so now I have nothing to offer. Oh well.
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I miss the added sounds like belly scrape, gun turret rotation, etc.
I also miss the limited DAR, seemed like it brought out more teamwork as someone recently killed would always give sitrep on incoming baddies from the tower.
Plus ya hadda keep your head on a swivel to keep from getting bounced.
I also miss the interface screen that could tell you your kill streak, who last kilt ya and the names of your last five kills.