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Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: lasse on July 14, 2003, 04:58:30 PM

Ordered a new computer today, so I guess I wont have any problems with AH II hardware demands ;)

(I do know, it is the man, NOT the machine who get the kills);)

My order:
Chieftec Dragon Medium Tower black

MSI 865PE NEO2-FIS2R motherboard S478/800
 I865PE,SATA,ATX,LAN,Dual-DDR, Firewire

Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz Boxed PC800
 Socket PGA478, 512kB "Northwood"

TwinMOS PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Dual Pack
 Kit w/two matched PC3200 CL2.5 DDRs

Sony 3,5" 1,44MB black
 

Maxtor S-ATA/150 120GB 7200RPM 8MB
 DiamondMax Plus 9, 8 MB cache
 
NEC DVD-Rom IDE 16x/48x black
(DV-5900c)

NEC DVD IDE ND-1100A black
 DVD+R/+RW 4X/2,4X/16X/10X/40X/12X

Gainward GeForce FX 5900 128MB DDR 2.2ns
 AGP, "Ultra/1200XP GS", Retail

Creative Soundblaster Audigy Player

:D

Lasse

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on July 14, 2003, 05:37:02 PM

Sounds good! Also, make sure you have a big enough power supply. I'd go with a 550W if I were you.

Camo

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: Sandman on July 14, 2003, 06:08:59 PM

P4's need that much power?

Title: Re: Preparing for AH II
Post by: hazed- on July 14, 2003, 06:24:05 PM

Quote

Originally posted by lasse


Maxtor S-ATA/150 120GB 7200RPM 8MB
 DiamondMax Plus 9, 8 MB cache
 
:D

Lasse

thats the new ata standard? how much do these cost? and how much faster are they ?

I know ata 133 is suposedly 133mb/sec transfer but as you probably know the HD's with this dont actually always run at the full 133mb/sec.

is the S-ATA different?

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: Tarmac on July 14, 2003, 06:49:53 PM

SATA has nice small cables, no more of those massive IDE ribbon cables.  

Supposedly faster, but I dunno how much is just hype.  Haven't been following hardware reviews lately.

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: Pfunk on July 14, 2003, 08:31:04 PM

s-ata is marginally faster that ata100/133 actually ata 133 is a marketing ploy an is no faster than ata100.  you wont actually "see" a difference b/t s-ata and ide, it is only faster on paper.

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: trolla on July 15, 2003, 03:37:26 AM

you also get serial ata WD raptor disks now with 10000rpm.
But the size is only 37gb for the time being but if you raid (2 disks) them in raid 0 you get 1 pretty fast 80gb disk.
they dont noise either I have heard them, one friend of mine have them.

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: BGBMAW on July 15, 2003, 05:45:36 AM

price???

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: boxboy28 on July 16, 2003, 12:05:43 PM

SATA is supposed to run at 150mb/sec transfer

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: LePaul on July 16, 2003, 12:19:28 PM

Go SCSI  :p

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: Skuzzy on July 16, 2003, 01:27:17 PM

SATA is all well and good,  but the ultimate performance disk sub-system will be SCSI based.

The actual data transfer rate for SATA will be the speed at which data can be read/written from/to the hard disk.  The 150Mb/s limit is in no danger of being violated anytime soon.

Besides, there is not a SATA drive down in the sub-4ms average access time yet, nor is there a 15K rpm drive either.

The overhead for SATA, system wise, will be higher than a good SSCSI system as well, given the way SATA is implemented today.

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: trolla on July 16, 2003, 01:32:27 PM

when you say that skuzzy you mean server based systems :)

I hope, caus3e the new sata from western is close to killing the old scsi systems ritght ? :) (for beer drininkn idiots like me)

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: Skuzzy on July 16, 2003, 01:46:47 PM

The WD SATA 10K drive is an OK drive, but the SCSI drives available today still maul that drive.

10K SCSI drives have been around for about 4 years,..maybe 5.  The 15K drives have been around for ove a year now.   None of the SATA drives come close to the seek performance of the high end SCSI drives.  The latest Cheetah drives are averaging 3.4ms average seek.
Anytime you decrease the seek times, you substantially increase the performance of a desktop.

Of course, you will pay for that level of performance and reliability.

Title: Preparing for AH II
Post by: minus on July 16, 2003, 05:11:31 PM

whatever AH2 goin be i not scared, now runing CPU vapochill and ATI on waterchil, the actual AH i do not play yet, < MY PC to fast for it >:D