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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mitsu on May 11, 2001, 04:18:00 PM
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I really love IL-2!
I really want to see its screen shot NOW!!!!!
NATE? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-Mitsu
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I second that, Mits!
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(http://www.bluebyte.net/il2-e/products/graphics/shots/il2_295.jpg)
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You are very, Very, VERY dirty, DA98.
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-Karnak
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Originally posted by Karnak:
You are very, Very, VERY dirty, DA98.
Oh karnak , you dont know how much!! TOO MUCH!!
He is a RoadRuner. I mean, not not the cartoon character...er...well he understands me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Punt for NATEDOG!!!
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I hope they model the armor right on it. One tough bird to kill, and the ultimate HO plane.
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semperfi
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Everything dead in 30 minutes or less or the next one's free.
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[This message has been edited by texace (edited 05-12-2001).]
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/il-2.jpg (http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/il-2.jpg)
Check it out!!!
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CANT OPEN PAGE YOU MESSING WITH MY HEAD ????/ (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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DRILL
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Mitsu!!!!!
Are you playing? I hope you not trolling this! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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[This message has been edited by Midnight (edited 05-12-2001).]
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Originally posted by texace:
I hope they model the armor right on it. One tough bird to kill, and the ultimate HO plane.
Actually, it only had a very tough armour in the cockpit/engine area. The pilot was sitting in an armoured "bathtub". As an interesting sidenote, the rear gunner didn't have a similar armour protection in the early models.
So, if you want to shoot into the cockpit for a "fast" kill, you have to come in high and shoot through the canopy. Shooting from the behind or below will be useless, as the cockpit and engine are well protected.
However, the control surfaces and wing roots should be pretty "soft". Cannon armed planes shouldn't have much troubles shooting IL-2's down. Planes with only heavy machine guns (13mm/0.50cal) should aim to the wingroot or go for a "head shot". (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I agree on the HO part. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Camo
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The image came from from IL-2.
http://www.bluebyte.net/il2-e/products/graphics/shots/il2_295.jpg (http://www.bluebyte.net/il2-e/products/graphics/shots/il2_295.jpg)
Oleg has posted some nice shots of a Me-162.
http://www.bluebyte.net/forum/eng/m.asp?bid=41&tid=86975 (http://www.bluebyte.net/forum/eng/m.asp?bid=41&tid=86975)
Events.
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LOL. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by events:
The image came from from IL-2.
http://www.bluebyte.net/il2-e/products/graphics/shots/il2_295.jpg (http://www.bluebyte.net/il2-e/products/graphics/shots/il2_295.jpg)
Oleg has posted some nice shots of a Me-162.
http://www.bluebyte.net/forum/eng/m.asp?bid=41&tid=86975 (http://www.bluebyte.net/forum/eng/m.asp?bid=41&tid=86975)
Events.
Thats actually a He-162 (http://forum.edome.net/murobbs/images/smilies/love.gif)
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Mitsu the email addy in your UBB profile bounces, can you mail me please? jihad_ah@yahoo.com
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Jihad,
Oops! my e-mail address on profile was wrong.
I fixed it.
send mail to mitsu@ah.wakwak.com
Thanks,
Mitsu
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Camo- I don't think thats quite right. While your correct the bathtub only covered the pilot and engine (and the gunner on all M3 models were open) the plane by no means was an easy mark for Cannon shells. The fueselage was given the same leak proofed fuel tank system the La5 recieved and the struts for the wings were heavily reinforced and had protective tubes around control lines.
This is how they still made it home with square meters of material missing from the wing where 20mm shells had peeled the wing covering almost right off without destroying the wing. Shrapnel from cannon shells couldn't do fatal damage as easily and MG bullets were almost useless unless they managed to hit the pilot or penetrate the "bathtub".
IIRC the Finnish pilots had many notes on how to deal with this plane, most insisting the only good shot was to concentrate fire into the wing root to cause strucural failure (The wing was very heavy, I imagine enough damage and it just came right off) or to come in from above and fire through the top of the canopy.
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Sorrow - please read my post again. I agree with you 100%. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Seems like my post wasn't clear enough. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Camo
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According to Erich Hartmann's bio he (Hartmann) would attack IL-2s from a low 6 position and concentrate his fire on the oil-cooler. According to him that was the most vulnerable part of the plane and (for a good shot and from a very close distance) the best way to quickly down a Sturmovik.
In this bio the Sturmovik is also credited with being the toughest bird on the eastern front. Some german pilots claimed that they saw their 20mmm shells bouncing off IL-2s.
BTW: The new release date for IL-2 is November 2001 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Sascha
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Jagdgeschwader 77 "Herz As!"
[This message has been edited by Sascha JG 77 (edited 05-14-2001).]
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Here's what a finnish WW2 veteran told about shooting down IL-2's in a recent interview:
One year after finishing the course (Air Combat School), he had a Mannerheim cross on his chest. In three weeks, he had shot down 16 IL-2's in his Messerschmitt. Sturmoviks were ground attack airplanes which shot both forward and back, since they had a rear gunner.
He told me that on top of the engine, there was a spot: if you hit there, the plane would go down for sure. The wing root was another good place to shoot.
Coming soon to a Finnish WW2 history website near you! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Camo
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He is a RoadRuner. I mean, not not the cartoon character...er...well he understands me
JUAS JUAS JUAS... que alguien pare a este tioooo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Chooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooofff!!!
la Orca
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Originally posted by Mitsu:
I really love IL-2!
I really want to see its screen shot NOW!!!!!
NATE? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-Mitsu
(http://www.tilt.clara.net/niemen/IL2m3.jpg)
This one (if I can make this UBB work) actually made it home!
Tilt
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PUNT...
NATEDOG, are you still alive? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Please Come Back!!!