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Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: midnight Target on July 17, 2003, 12:08:28 PM
9 Dead 45 injured (http://www.msnbc.com/news/939947.asp?0dm=C11ON)

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Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Ike 2K# on July 17, 2003, 12:16:48 PM
no wonder there's a traffic between Arizona Ave and Sunset BLVD while im in an MTA bus.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Eagler on July 17, 2003, 12:17:41 PM
when r u to old to drive? this koot certainly was ...

THe rocket scientists at the DMV in Indiana issued my wife's 92 year old grand dad a license even though he couldn't hear a train if it blew its whistle right next to him and the fact he'd forget where he was going 5 minutes after leaving the house..

The DMV needs to take some sort of responsiblity when they ARM these old geezers with a rolling WMD.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Sandman on July 17, 2003, 12:22:08 PM
I listened to the reports yesterday afternoon as it happened. I think that the DMV needs to seriously consider driving tests for advanced senior citizens.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Mini D on July 17, 2003, 12:22:11 PM
Its not an easy line to draw.   We just had a similar problem with my grandfather with a much less tragic ending.  He was lost for 36 hours before the police found him.  He'd been driving all over trying to remember how to get home.

We've pulled his keys and are working with the DMV to get his license pulled.  We also visit him frequently to keep him company and also make sure he's not trying to drive.  Its not an easy thing to do to tell someone you've always respected that you now have to treat him like a kid.

But... scenes like this are tragic reminders of what happens when people don't step forward when the signs first appear.

MiniD
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Ripsnort on July 17, 2003, 12:23:55 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I listened to the reports yesterday afternoon as it happened. I think that the DMV needs to seriously consider driving tests for advanced senior citizens.


Don't bring that up with AARP, touchy subject ;).  Thats why we don't have them today.

My grandmother was almost legally blind, yet when they issued her DL they still passed her on vision testing...we finally had to "ground her" because she was getting dangerous.

We need to re-test everyone periodically over a certain age, IMO.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: funkedup on July 17, 2003, 12:27:08 PM
pre-emptive:  http://www.holidayinn.com
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Stringer on July 17, 2003, 12:27:20 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
when r u to old to drive? this koot certainly was ...

THe rocket scientists at the DMV in Indiana issued my wife's 92 year old grand dad a license even though he couldn't hear a train if it blew its whistle right next to him and the fact he'd forget where he was going 5 minutes after leaving the house..

The DMV needs to take some sort of responsiblity when they ARM these old geezers with a rolling WMD.


Or you can do that personal responsibility thing and take the keys and work with the DMV as MiniD stated.

That's what we did with my father.  It wasn't easy, but we did it.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Sandman on July 17, 2003, 12:27:32 PM
It's simple and the tests are already being conducted today on teenagers. If an experienced driver can't pass that same test, they've no business on the road.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: gofaster on July 17, 2003, 12:29:32 PM
When you're a baby, your only restriction to your freedom is how far your feet will take you (and the reach of your parent's arm).

When you're a kid, your only restriction to your freedom is how far your bicycle will take you (and the fear of what your parents will do to you if you go too far).

When you're a teenager, your only restriction is the gas in your fuel tank (and the fear of what your parents will do to you if you're late getting home).

When you're a college student, your only restriction is how much money you have for gas (and the fear of what your parents will do when you fail that next exam).

When you're an adult, your only restriction is how much time you have to travel (and the fear of what your boss will do to you if you're late for work).

When you're retired, your only restriction is how well you can manage a car.

When you're too old to manage a car, your only restriction is how far your feet will take you, which isn't very far because by then you remember how nice it was to have a car.

For most people, a car = freedom, and that's a hard thing to surrender.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Ripsnort on July 17, 2003, 12:30:54 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
pre-emptive:  http://www.holidayinn.com


ROTFLOL!
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Eagler on July 17, 2003, 01:27:27 PM
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Originally posted by Stringer
Or you can do that personal responsibility thing and take the keys and work with the DMV as MiniD stated.

That's what we did with my father.  It wasn't easy, but we did it.


they did when the DMV didn't
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: icemaw on July 17, 2003, 02:01:39 PM
Live not far from there saw it on TV its was truly horrific.
A mile of terror and destruction bodys every where. Saw this one poor guy laying in the triage area with both legs broken and twisted in such a way I just had to turn away.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: LePaul on July 17, 2003, 02:13:45 PM
I'm just in awe from seeing the length of the carnage from a helicopter camera.  Its one thing to OPPS stomp the gas, but he went a loooong ways.

Nice post, gofaster
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Mickey1992 on July 17, 2003, 02:25:13 PM
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030717/capt.1058401065.market_accident_la106.jpg)

Like LePaul said.  I had no idea how far this man traveled until I saw an aerial view.  No wonder police are questioning if this was criminal.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: medicboy on July 17, 2003, 02:28:05 PM
Did you see how they parked the ambulances near the staging area, half of them were blocked in!!!!  looks like the staging area IC made some huge mistakes.
Title: Horror in Santa Monica
Post by: Scootter on July 17, 2003, 05:10:41 PM
FAA pulls an ATP off line at 60 regardless of condition.