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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dago on July 17, 2003, 07:31:39 PM
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PM Blair spoke today to the US Congress, it was carried on TV.
Tony Blair is one of the best speakers I have ever heard, and is one of the best things that has ever come out of England since the Beetles and Baby Spice.
dago
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Yeah, too bad he's a liar. Must come from hanging around Dubya as much as he has.
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Erlkonig, can you prove that saddam never tried to buy yellowcake from africa?
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John ... I think GScholz wants you.
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Hey ... I agree. There is no reason to be jealous, especially given the fact I'm not the one trying to pants him. It just looks like you have the extreme hots for the fellow and I figured I'd give the `ol boy a check six call, just in case you happened to get the drop on him. :D
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Tony Blair is a good public speaker. Too bad he relies on spin more than substance.
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Originally posted by Dago
PM Blair spoke today to the US Congress, it was carried on TV.
Tony Blair is one of the best speakers I have ever heard, and is one of the best things that has ever come out of England since the Beetles and Baby Spice.
dago
You guys think he's wonderful, we all think he's a lying two faced pos - don't believe a word he says.......
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So did he say anything relevant?
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Of cource he did.
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Can you narrow it down for me?
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There is no more dangerous theory in international politics than that we need to balance the power of America with other competitive powers; different poles around which nations gather.
Such a theory may have made sense in 19th-century Europe. It was perforce the position in the Cold War.
Today, it is an anachronism to be discarded like traditional theories of security. And it is dangerous because it is not rivalry but partnership we need; a common will and a shared purpose in the face of a common threat.
And I believe any alliance must start with America and Europe. If Europe and America are together, the others will work with us. If we split, the rest will play around, play us off and nothing but mischief will be the result of it.
Can we be sure that terrorism and weapons of mass destruction will join together? Let us say one thing: If we are wrong, we will have destroyed a threat that at its least is responsible for inhuman carnage and suffering. That is something I am confident history will forgive.
But if our critics are wrong, if we are right, as I believe with every fiber of instinct and conviction I have that we are, and we do not act, then we will have hesitated in the face of this menace when we should have given leadership. That is something history will not forgive
To be a serious partner, Europe must take on and defeat the anti-Americanism that sometimes passes for its political discourse. And what America must do is show that this is a partnership built on persuasion, not command.
Very very good speech by Mr Blair.
I think we are very fortunate to have Blair in England and Bush in the US at this point in time.
If we would have had a Chamberlain-type in England or Gore in the US on 9-11 ...I mean ...it would be BAD... maybe not "we'd probably all be on a rug on our knees facing Mecca five times a day now"-bad...but BAD.
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just a photo op, and mutual masterbation by Blair...
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Maniac
So did he say anything relevant?
you be the judge
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-748820,00.html (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-748820,00.html)
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excellent speech......
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I don't usually involve myself in conversatoins like this, but for once I feel compelled.
I listened to the speech in the car yesterday on NPR and was very impressed. Both Bush and Blair have been getting it pretty hard in their respective countries, and perhaps for some good reasons. Despite that, I was still very impressed with how straight forward they were (with the except of Bush's answer to the question about his taking personal responsibility for his State of the Union address, he dodged that one).
JoeBWan
VF-17 Jolly Rogers
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Originally posted by SLO
excellent speech......
Agreed. We need to lobby Congress to change that pesky natural-born law - Blair in 2008. You Brits might think poorly of him, but we lov'em over here.
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yeah it's funny..Brits feel much the same way about Clinton - really weird.....
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Schadenfreude, would you please take the time this morning to join the "oclub" Diplomacy game.
Thanks :)
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Agreed. We need to lobby Congress to change that pesky natural-born law - Blair in 2008. You Brits might think poorly of him, but we lov'em over here.
I'm not american....so no lobby congress for me:)
and no limey either....
but still a good speech...:D
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Originally posted by banana
Schadenfreude, would you please take the time this morning to join the "oclub" Diplomacy game.
Thanks :)
I joined the DPPD yesterday...also got a copy of diplomacy and cleared the diningroom table - g/f a bit grumpy.
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