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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SixxGunn on July 19, 2003, 07:38:09 PM
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After reading this.
Good Laugh (http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22608/)
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Punt
"I now see Wild Bill in a chute with his Colt 45 firing wildly at a RV8 on the horizon. "
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Ozark
332nd Flying Mongrels
:D :D :D
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Dear freakin lord, how many BB's are y'all subscribed to?
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"Thanks for all your support. I thought I should clear up much of the misinformation that seem to be coming from folks who don’t want us to succeed!
We will fool them all and they will be standing around with egg on their faces! It will be great fun!
Wild Bill Stealey
CEO IENT
Aviator "
We will fool them all.Kinda brings to mind the guy in Iraq saying "There are no Infidels at Saddam Airport." As a M1A2 rolled by in the background.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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if thats the try to save Warbirds? :rolleyes:
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Dea, where'd ya hear that from? I couldnt find him saying that anywhere.
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I read that one 2 days ago.
Quickly added 2 + 2 did the math, = 4.
Said to myself, Hmmm that rings true.
Best of luck in court HTC.
Warbirds players, that should be the final blow. How can you continue to support someone who would do that?
Have you no honor? No integrity?
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http://bbs.warbirdsiii.com/showthread.php?threadid=3985&highlight=patent
Right from the horses mouth.
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This is very serious... not even remotely a laughing matter... unless its a brief chuckle and an "I expect no less from Bill Stealy".
MiniD
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http://bbs.warbirdsiii.com/showthread.php?threadid=3985&highlight=patent
Right from the horses mouth.
That thread is 11 months old. It’s not relevant to the events that occurred in the last 4 days.
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Originally posted by Ozark
That thread is 11 months old. It’s not relevant to the events that occurred in the last 4 days.
It is probably quite relevant. I heard about the lawsuit 2 months ago. Knowing how long it takes to put together something like this...I would say it is very relevant.
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Originally posted by Ozark
That thread is 11 months old. It’s not relevant to the events that occurred in the last 4 days.
Not relevant? That thread is where he begins to discuss his plans to do the very thing he did this week.
MiniD
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Oops, I stand corrected. I just looked at the date of the thread.
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"I just don’t want you to be left out when our stock is worth 10-20 times what it is today in a relatively short period! .... I am looking at a P-51 that I want to buy next year! Maybe you could get yourself one too! "
And it just gets better!
If you order before midnight the Wild Shill will also toss in a pair of Merlin engines for spares. At nooOOOO extra charge!
But wait. That's not all!
For acting NOW he'll throw in a bonified, certainteed lapel pin, for you and each of your fiends, that reads "Hell yeah. I'd buy just about anything from the WildShill! He's the man." Bravely tell the world just how smart YOU are.
Order today!
*IMO also that topic is mighty relevant to his actions today. Although I think WildShill is banking on this long shot I don't think he'll win. His sad history in business has shown he doesn't know what he's doing and as usual he's barking up the wrong tree. He's wasting time and resources on the quick but low yield plan instead of just putting the focus on what works. HTC has shown the way. NewsCorp/EA and iEN have proven what NOT to do.
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Just remember...
All your bases belong to Bill.
Drex
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Wild Bill looks like a drowning man reaching for that life-preserver just out of reach.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Warbirds players, that should be the final blow. How can you continue to support someone who would do that?
Have you no honor? No integrity?
The silence is deafening.
MiniD
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well I dont mean to be rude or anything but ............HTC get yer guns out and start blazing! F*CK these pile of parasites! IeN couldnt programme their way out of a virtual paper bag and they seem to be almost incompitant when it comes to running an online business that had every potential of becoming as successfull as any other online sim.
They screw up and decide to try to take others down with them?
HELL I say go to court, fight the handsomehunked basts and make them pay YOU damages.
I'll sign a petition of customers who will back you up on your superb service HTC. If you want us to all band together and give our veiws as to why IEN are failing whilst your game goes from strentgh to strentgh I will and im sure many others would too.
Customer care/service. say no more. IEN dont give a sh*t about their customers. and thats why it failed.
HT I can understand why you have a short fuse if you have to deal with ungratefull parasites like IEN.
:rolleyes:
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You know , fellow AHers' we could make a differnce . If this does indeed look like its going to court then we could email IEN support and show them our disgust. We could then threaten to remove all support for any programme IEN are involved with. A flood of angry Emails does work , believe me.
I was part of a huge email campaign to try to get the major coffee companies to change their policies toward the payments of coffee farmers.
The company had so many complaints and threats of boycotting their products that they sat up and listened. Threaten to piss and moan does nothing, threaten to remove MONEY and they fold up like a seaside deckchair. :)
wait for HTC to give the word, in case theres no truth to this roumor but if HTC does say its ok then we can do it.
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Clarification
To my knowledge, Wild Bill of Warbirds is not today, nor has he ever been, a member of the Shillelagh Squadron.
Please do not confuse his actions with those of the Shillelagh Squadron.
The only things we steal are enemy bases that have been abandoned and are sitting derelict on the periphery of the main battle front lines, so really, if the bases are just sitting there abandoned, are we truly stealing anything or simply claiming salvage rights?
Originally posted by WestyAH
"I just don’t want you to be left out when our stock is worth 10-20 times what it is today in a relatively short period! .... I am looking at a P-51 that I want to buy next year! Maybe you could get yourself one too! "
And it just gets better!
If you order before midnight the Wild Shill will also toss in a pair of Merlin engines for spares. At nooOOOO extra charge!
But wait. That's not all!
For acting NOW he'll throw in a bonified, certainteed lapel pin, for you and each of your fiends, that reads "Hell yeah. I'd buy just about anything from the WildShill! He's the man." Bravely tell the world just how smart YOU are.
Order today!
*IMO also that topic is mighty relevant to his actions today. Although I think WildShill is banking on this long shot I don't think he'll win. His sad history in business has shown he doesn't know what he's doing and as usual he's barking up the wrong tree. He's wasting time and resources on the quick but low yield plan instead of just putting the focus on what works. HTC has shown the way. NewsCorp/EA and iEN have proven what NOT to do.
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Sorry bout that GF. But "Wild Snowjob" or "Wild Conman" just didn't rythme :(
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that post sort of has all the Ear marks of a company selling off its stock, just to balance the buget and line someones pockets.
(lets see can someone say... martha "bill" stewart ???)
that 1/4 iEN had a profit of 10k ...the next 1/4 they lost 100k and its getting worse... the current price of iEN is .02 cents per share .
(hmmm looks worthless to me ) when it was around 1.25 awhile back.... i wont say at what time. but all the peices sort of fit together ... and give me the impression of a sinking ship.
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we go to war?
(http://www.raf303.org/ramzey/bonds.jpg)
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Heh. Well it will certainly make warbird's players popular where ever they go.
At least the ones who stay after this.
Wab
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Originally posted by WestyAH
Sorry bout that GF. But "Wild Snowjob" or "Wild Conman" just didn't rythme :(
Good thing GF got here first, I was affraid we would have to retain Wildblowjob's lawyers and sue you for libel.
:p
-Sik
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As of today it is selling for:
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Stock Activity
Last Price 0.02
52 Week High 0.15
52 Week Low 0.03
Volume 900
Average Daily Volume (13wk) NA
50 Day Moving Average NA
200 Day Moving Average NA
Volatility (beta) NA
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Location of Information on IENT stock. (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/msnbc/profile.asp?Symbol=IENT)
Kinda hard to make money on a cheap stock like that that doesn't move in the last 200 days. I seriously doubt the validity of someone saying they made $20,000 off a $500 investment with this company.
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http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/earthlink-net/quote-news.asp?symb=ient&sid=163711&time=12&freq=2&maval=60&lf=1&type=256&mocktick=1&country=US&doChartIV=0&style=1358&size=2
Yea 20k from $500 is a big lie. This is just not possable, take a look.
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as the plot thickens... I notice from this link http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1061915/000115752302001447/a4290695.txt
that iEN is also sueing the air force and I Quote from this form
"On September 24, 2002 the Company filed an administrative claim for patent
infringement before the Air Force pursuant to Title 10 United States Code,
Section 2386 in compliance with 48 CFR Subpart 227.70, Infringement Claims,
Licenses, and Assignments. The Company is the holder of United States Patent no.
6,042,477 - a method of and system for minimizing the effects of time
latency...on interconnected computers. The Company uses its technology to manage
the effects of time latency across the internet for its massively multi-player
flight simulators. The Company believes that the actions of the Air Force
infringe the above named patent. The Company desires to license the above
referenced patent to the Air Force or to be compensated for past infringement." unquote.
what this looks like to me that ien owns the rights to pat.6,042,477 I dont know if they had eclusive rights, or what that agreement was w/ HTC, but if ien did not finish paying for the rights to this then all agreements should be nul and void.
On a personal note , In my personal dealings with HTC (2 1/2 years) I have had nothing but the upmost greatest support from them .
(when my house burnt down and I didnt play in the main i had to unsub ... my wife called them up and explained , they not only unsubbed me they also refunded my monies from the time i stopped entering the game. 2 months worth )
I would gladly invest into a fund for them ...
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
the current price of iEN is .02 cents per share .
(hmmm looks worthless to me ) when it was around 1.25 awhile back.... i wont say at what time.
Doesn't stock get delisted when it the shares dip below $1?
Ack-Ack
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I'm not shure Ack Ack .. im not a stock expert .... (i do have a couple of small investments that make a couple of $$ now and then but thats about it)
One thing i did note is that iEN changed their nasdac name last year for some reason . I can only guess what that was about.
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
what this looks like to me that ien owns the rights to pat.6,042,477 I dont know if they had eclusive rights, or what that agreement was w/ HTC, but if ien did not finish paying for the rights to this then all agreements should be nul and void.
On a personal note , In my personal dealings with HTC (2 1/2 years) I have had nothing but the upmost greatest support from them .
(when my house burnt down and I didnt play in the main i had to unsub ... my wife called them up and explained , they not only unsubbed me they also refunded my monies from the time i stopped entering the game. 2 months worth )
I would gladly invest into a fund for them ...
Someone mentioned that HT still holds the rights to the patent and it was not part of the deal when iEN bought out ICI, which kept the patent in HT's hands. In turn, iEN bought the license to use the patent for which they only made one initial payment.
WildBill's suit against the USAAF sounds like he's banking on the fact that they USAAF might feel that it will be more costly to defend themselves against this crook than it would be to pay him off. What is even more stupid is his reported attempts to extort 5% of the profits from all online games because he says they violate "his" patent.
ack-ack
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thats sort of the idea I've got .... but it would be better to see the handwriting on the wall so to speak.
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The lawsuit filed by iEN is totally ridiculous. It's apparent even to the most dim witted idiot that IEN is failing financialy. It should be ( and I say SHOULD BE) obivious that this is a last ditch attempt by a failing company to obtain capital while inflicting damage on it's major competitor.
I joined warbirds for a short time....and like all human beings I had an opinion. My opinion was that I really didn't like it that much......opinions differ however, and are just that.... opinions. To each his own. I don't fault anyone for liking Warbirds over Aces High.......hell.....it's their money and choice. I made mine......they've made theirs'.
While subscribing to IEN.....when I did go online, there weren't very many online.....usually US primetime......evenings. It was obivious to me that the majority of the flightsim community appeared to like Aces High better......hell......there were always 150 to 300 online in the early evening eastern time. Now there are almost 400 online at that time....and often more.
Again.....this could be one of the most frivolous lawsuits that any of us have ever seen. If it is obivious to me that due to the financial woes of IEN, IEN is making a last ditch attempt to salvage what is left ....maybe...just maybe, a learned Judge would see things the same way. Hey! But who knows? This is America after all, where frivolous lawsuits are fast replacing baseball as the national past time!
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I can pay more fror subscription to supply "war"
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wild bill bout to get roped.
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
as the plot thickens... I notice from this link http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1061915/000115752302001447/a4290695.txt
that iEN is also sueing the air force and I Quote from this form
"On September 24, 2002 the Company filed an administrative claim for patent
infringement before the Air Force pursuant to Title 10 United States Code,
Section 2386 in compliance with 48 CFR Subpart 227.70, Infringement Claims,
Licenses, and Assignments. The Company is the holder of United States Patent no.
6,042,477 - a method of and system for minimizing the effects of time
latency...on interconnected computers. The Company uses its technology to manage
the effects of time latency across the internet for its massively multi-player
flight simulators.
This information comes from my brother who researched this at my behest.
Here is what I posted and asked to be cross-posted to AGWB as my account did not have posting rights:
My brother researched this information (his specialty is Intellectual
Property - patents and copyrights).
He adds that this link doe not prove or disprove owners of these patents,
just that these links are quite interesting in light of this new lawsuit
served to HiTech on 17 July 2003.
1) IENT is suing the United States Air Force for infringement on the same
patent Dale Addink is being sued for.
2) IENT lost the trademark for the name, "Warbirds".
Link below has both:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1061915/000115752302001447/a4290695.txt
Jeff
What this means is Dale Addink could be the owner of the patent. The only name listed is Dale Addink's.
Jeff
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wild bill bout to get roped.
Hehehe.Hopefully a herd or Niks and La7's will fly up his bellybutton in protest of being a poor excuse for a human being.Sounds like this guy is grasping at straws. Were behind ya HT.Just say the word and a veritable Plethora of,oh excuse me.For you Nik jocks thats a shatload BTW,We will Spew mail into that system threating boycott.Should wake a few people up.:eek:
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Link to Trademark and Patent Office refusal for Warbirds III trademark request. (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76389086)
This is only a summary but it is the final response on a dead issue now. In my knowledge of the situation IENT can not request that this trademark be used again. They do not hold another trademark for their games since they are all showing final refusal except for the original one which is an abandoned trademark back in 1997. It was abandoned because they failed to respond to office action (meaning a letter they were sent after applying for it).
ICI trademark application (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=75020373)
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I'm no master accountant, but that company is on the quick road out of business. The net income is plumeting while expenses are rising, and functional debt is well beyond typical recovery.
I knew WB had been doing poorly...I just had no idea it was THAT bad.....we're going to have an influx of 50 or so new subscribers soon....
sad to see this happen, but its kinda indicative of me being here.:(
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
WildBill's suit against the USAAF sounds like he's banking on the fact that they USAAF might feel that it will be more costly to defend themselves against this crook than it would be to pay him off. What is even more stupid is his reported attempts to extort 5% of the profits from all online games because he says they violate "his" patent.
ack-ack
Ack-Ack, we haven't been the USAAF since 1947. Only one A, my friend...
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LMAO! Just as I was reading this thread, WinAMP started playing Amazing Grace on bagpipes!
After reading all the threads on this subject, I gotta agree that iEN and MildJill are destined for the scrap-yard. They can't sue just the USAF and Dale for using latency-reducing code, cause they'd have to sue everybody who writes/produces/owns a net-based game. That'd be claiming to own the whole latency-reducing idea, and would make a monopoly, which is illegal. Also, Dale OWNS the patent (as of 2k, the document date), so they can't sue on the grounds he's using/selling/charging for it. All this amounts to a temper tantrum by iEN because MildJill can't manage a company; something half the planet has known for years.
-hazed, I'm with you. I'd sign a petition towards HTC's credibility, customer service quality, the works. They don't spew any BS, they're all active on the board when time permits, and every one of 'em will answer a question both on the boards and the phone. As for counter-suing iEN/MildJill to pay for damages....eh, I wouldn't. That'd be like winning five years of free telemarketing calls. All you could really counter-sue for is worthless stock or court costs; the latter being the best route. Though the judge would probably want payment in cash based on iEN's inability to pay bills. Hell, I'll bet $5 the reason HTC sent the licensing check back is cause it would've bounced.
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I dont want to be a prophet, but this is
a typical bubble case.
The man is a born looser and he know it,
so i afraid he have deside to escape with
as many money as he can from his victims
after ofcourse the announcemend of
bankruptcy.
After, you can find him at Hawai drinking
coctails in the name of the suckers.
Its sad, how much easy some people
can become victims.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Wild Bill looks like a drowning man reaching for that life-preserver just out of reach.
Ack-Ack
I'd be happy to toss the f@cker an anchor.
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I have one ??? here .... How can someone sue the U.S. DOD (the usaf) in this case for a patent infringement ???
I have alway been under the impression that the DOD can use anything they want . (if they pay the maker of the patent then its a courticy type payment ect.).
I'm not shure if im correct in this so i has hoping one of you brainiacs could clear this up for me . Thx
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9:54am 04/04/01 IEntertainment gets Nasdaq delisting notice - CBS MarketWatch.com
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United States Patent 6,042,477
Addink March 28, 2000
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Method of and system for minimizing the effects of time latency in multiplayer electronic games played on interconnected computers
Abstract
A method of minimizing the effects of time latency in multiplayer electronic games played over a network including a plurality of computers. Each computer is associated with a game object and each computer includes an internal clock. Each computer periodically transmits a packet containing a packet time and time dependent attribute information for its associated game object. The receiving computer uses the packet time to render the game object in the game environment based on the time the packet was sent.
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Inventors: Addink; Dale H. (1701 W. Northwest Hwy. Suite 220, Grapevine, TX 76051)
Appl. No.: 764127
Filed: December 12, 1996
This is how the patent was filed in 1996!