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Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Frogm4n on July 21, 2003, 01:05:07 PM: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=68&ncid=68&e=2&u=/nyt/20030721/ts_nyt/reportonusapatriotactallegescivilrightsviolations

I remember someone on these boards being critical of me when i said the patriotic act was a bad idea. They claimed in no way will citizens rights be underminded. Well looks like i was right once again.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: WestyAH on July 21, 2003, 01:09:59 PM: Sie haben nichts, zu fürchten, wenn Sie nicht schuldig sind!!
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: john9001 on July 21, 2003, 01:27:23 PM: also i haven't been arrested and tortured yet and no terrorists have attacked the USA after 9-11
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: funkedup on July 21, 2003, 01:28:11 PM: It's the Patriot Act, Froggy.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Frogm4n on July 21, 2003, 01:47:12 PM: http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=US&cat=Terrorism

maybe this link works better.
so john if you were a german and the nazis didnt round you up i guess that means noithing was going on then right?

thx funked you know i aint all right in the head sometimes.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Scootter on July 21, 2003, 01:58:55 PM: Teething pains, thats all.

They will get the bugs soon enough, remember even the Constution had a few ammendments after it was writen.

I guess you have always been perfect in everything you do the first time, right.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Frogm4n on July 21, 2003, 02:08:11 PM: no its just when i was wrong i didnt violate anyones civil liberitys.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: john9001 on July 21, 2003, 02:10:22 PM: The inspector general said that from Dec. 16 through June 15, his office received 1,073 complaints "suggesting a Patriot Act-related" abuse of civil rights or civil liberties.

The report suggested that hundreds of the accusations were easily dismissed as not credible or impossible to prove. But of the remainder, 272 were determined to fall within the inspector general's jurisdiction, with 34 raising "credible Patriot Act violations on their face."

i find your reference to America="nazis" offensive.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Scootter on July 21, 2003, 02:11:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
no its just when i was wrong i didnt violate anyones civil liberitys.

Now I bet you have or would like to.;)
Title: What's that noise?
Post by: gofaster on July 21, 2003, 02:13:24 PM: (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/Blakhwk1-ani.gif)
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Frogm4n on July 21, 2003, 02:14:39 PM: i find our lack of topless beaches offensive.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: john9001 on July 21, 2003, 02:18:21 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
i find our lack of topless beaches offensive.

i have to agree with frogman on that. free the breasts.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Rude on July 21, 2003, 02:46:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
no its just when i was wrong i didnt violate anyones civil liberitys.

What civil liberties of yours have been violated? What can you not do now that you once could prior to the patriot act?
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: funkedup on July 21, 2003, 02:47:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
i find our lack of topless beaches offensive.

Amen. Let's all put aside our partisan squabbles and fight for the one thing that matters.
Boobies.
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: Scootter on July 21, 2003, 02:53:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by funkedup
Amen. Let's all put aside our partisan squabbles and fight for the one thing that matters.
Boobies.

Yea Boobies, now your talking ;)
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: midnight Target on July 21, 2003, 03:10:19 PM: Liberal boobies kick conservative boobies prettythang!!
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: mietla on July 21, 2003, 03:13:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Liberal boobies kick conservative boobies prettythang!!

Well, you are right on this one. For once, they're more likely to be exposed :)
Title: Patriotic act
Post by: crowMAW on July 21, 2003, 05:14:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Rude
What civil liberties of yours have been violated? What can you not do now that you once could prior to the patriot act?

I cannot be secure in my person, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures because I would be denied due process to challenge a warrant issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court as prescribed by the Patriot Act.

Some may feel this is trivial and is merely hand wringing. Personally, I do not trust politicians to do the right thing when surrendering my Constitutional rights to them. And I have seen too many abuses by law enforcement to trust that they will be more concerned with learning the truth than with convicting a suspect.

I am an avid proponent of all the rights we have been given and I want to guard them jealously...including the 2nd Amendment. But, I find it oddly curious that many of the people on this forum who would trivialize the loss of rights outlined in the Patriot Act would probably go ape toejam should the Feds try to pass a law requiring all firearms be registered and all firearm owners be licensed. They would cry "SLIPPERY SLOPE...SLIPPERY SLOPE". And some trusting sheep herded by Washington would ask a question very similar to what we have above: How would registration and licensing take away one's right to bear arms?