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Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Dlamb on July 21, 2003, 09:56:17 PM
In Atlanta?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: WestyAH on July 21, 2003, 09:59:38 PM
If you're hosting!

It costs a princely sum to put on though. Better expand that paper route fast!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Hajo on July 21, 2003, 10:10:02 PM
Westy..........only you....LOLOL   :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: nopoop on July 21, 2003, 10:10:55 PM
Texas
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ChuBBs on July 21, 2003, 10:16:15 PM
Harrisburg. PA!!!!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Octavius on July 21, 2003, 10:28:07 PM
Vegas NV!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: SOB on July 21, 2003, 10:29:38 PM
Grapevine, TX!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Estes on July 21, 2003, 10:34:26 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
Grapevine, TX!


Yeah
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mathman on July 21, 2003, 10:38:44 PM
Grapevine, TX
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 21, 2003, 10:57:40 PM
Should have one in San Diego.  In the summer time, no other place in the country has weather as fine.  And there's a crap load of things to do for the Con goer.  There's the San Diego Aerospace Museum in Balboa Park and at Gillespie Field, as well as a C.A.F. museum at Gillespie Field.  There's also a Marine aviation museum, "The Flying Leathernecks Museum" at Miramar MCAS.  There's miles and miles of great beaches, crap load of golf courses and Tijuana is only a 5 minute drive to the south.  Best place to have a convention.


Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Reschke on July 21, 2003, 11:15:59 PM
Why not have it in Pensacola... miles of beaches and I have a friend who lives down there and is willing to give up part of the house to let me stay for free. :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: cobia38 on July 21, 2003, 11:28:43 PM
Yes FLORIDA,bring CON to FLORIDA :D
  free one way gator tours for all spitt/niki/la7 pilots:p
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Goose101 on July 21, 2003, 11:34:11 PM
Maybe Memphis :D  I could host... ;)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: guttboy on July 21, 2003, 11:59:51 PM
VEGAS or ALBUQUERQUE
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: SunKing on July 22, 2003, 12:50:55 AM
South Lake Tahoe!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: B17Skull12 on July 22, 2003, 01:04:43 AM
south lake tahoe is very good pretty, cool, tree's, fishing sound so good and in ca but san diego is ok but still i live about 100 miles north or even better than san deigo or tahoe is bring it to mammoth :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 22, 2003, 01:25:42 AM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
south lake tahoe is very good pretty, cool, tree's, fishing...



Hehehe, also forgot to mention the best bass fishing you can find anywhere in the country is here in San Diego.  



Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: funkedup on July 22, 2003, 02:06:15 AM
Grapevine owns.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: maik on July 22, 2003, 02:44:44 AM
all for Grapevine too.

Or How about Berlin, Germany :p
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Steve on July 22, 2003, 03:03:08 AM
Always wanted to visit San Diego
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: fffreeze220 on July 22, 2003, 03:16:25 AM
Bremen, Germany ? :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Estes on July 22, 2003, 03:17:52 AM
Well if we are getting really picky then.....
Amarillo Texas. :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: BNM on July 22, 2003, 03:28:57 AM
Grapevine or Amarillo either one is fine with me... ;)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 22, 2003, 07:03:04 AM
NOT INDY ( Till my wife lets me do it again ! )

Jordi

One THEORY I heard was to alternate between TX and other cities each year.

Now is there a GROUP in TX that wants to run it so the HTC crew can come and enjoy it and not have to WORK the CON itself ?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Curval on July 22, 2003, 07:40:51 AM
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Originally posted by Reschke
I have a friend who lives down there and is willing to give up part of the house to let me stay for free. :D


Me too.  ;)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 22, 2003, 09:08:30 AM
Texas....where it belongs:)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Zanth on July 22, 2003, 09:18:52 AM
Orlando - lots of things to do.  People can take the family for a week or two of vacation (some of which can be con).
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ALF on July 22, 2003, 09:53:51 AM
Yeah...Orlando!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 22, 2003, 10:02:20 AM
If it is done in TX ( or elsewhere ) - I think a group of players should STEP UP and VOLUNTEER TO RUN AND HOST it ( Like I did in Indy ) this will allow the crew at HTC come and actually ENJOY themselves instead of WORKING to pull the CON off.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gofaster on July 22, 2003, 10:06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Zanth
Orlando - lots of things to do.  People can take the family for a week or two of vacation (some of which can be con).


Orlando would be my choice.

(a) plenty of hotels capable of hosting conventions
(b) http://www.warbirdmuseum.com/
(c) http://www.fantasyofflight.com
(d) http://www.airmuseum.org/content/
(e) http://www.vacwarbirds.org/
(f) http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/

and for the others there's Walt Disney World, Sea World, Universal Studios, Discovery Cove, 3 outlet malls, and gobs of "second tier" tourist attractions along International Drive, such as "Ripley's Believe It or Not" and theme stores and restaurants.  

I would imagine Orlando would be an easier sell to a guy with a family.

And I'm a lifetime member of http://www.airmuseum.org and might be able to hook up a banquet deal there as part of the con.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gofaster on July 22, 2003, 10:08:33 AM
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Originally posted by jordi
If it is done in TX ( or elsewhere ) - I think a group of players should STEP UP and VOLUNTEER TO RUN AND HOST it ( Like I did in Indy ) this will allow the crew at HTC come and actually ENJOY themselves instead of WORKING to pull the CON off.

Jordi


Do any players actually live in Grapevine, TX?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: muckmaw on July 22, 2003, 10:12:33 AM
Vegas or Orlando.

Vegas, I leave the family home and catch hell when I get back.

Orlando, I take 'em with me.

There's only one thing in Texas for me....my in-laws, and that's a good enough reason to stay out of the lone star state.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 22, 2003, 10:17:06 AM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Do any players actually live in Grapevine, TX?


Looks like Grapevine is smack dab in the middle between Dallas and FW. So anyone living in that area could do it.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ozark on July 22, 2003, 10:23:44 AM
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Originally posted by jordi
One THEORY I heard was to alternate between TX and other cities each year.

I like that idea!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: NUKE on July 22, 2003, 10:37:26 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Should have one in San Diego.  In the summer time, no other place in the country has weather as fine.  And there's a crap load of things to do for the Con goer.  There's the San Diego Aerospace Museum in Balboa Park and at Gillespie Field, as well as a C.A.F. museum at Gillespie Field.  There's also a Marine aviation museum, "The Flying Leathernecks Museum" at Miramar MCAS.  There's miles and miles of great beaches, crap load of golf courses and Tijuana is only a 5 minute drive to the south.  Best place to have a convention.


Ack-Ack


I agree with AKAK. Hell, just Balboa Park itself is a good reason to go... that place is incredible.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: NUKE on July 22, 2003, 10:42:06 AM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Vegas or Orlando.

Vegas, I leave the family home and catch hell when I get back.

Orlando, I take 'em with me.

There's only one thing in Texas for me....my in-laws, and that's a good enough reason to stay out of the lone star state.


I just got back from Florida...ALL over that state and you don't want any part of it this time of year. I thought 115 was hot
in Arizona.

Florida was pretty constant 90-95 and about 60-90% humidity which was gawd-aweful :(

Even on the beaches, it was hot and muggy with no cool sea breezes.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 22, 2003, 10:59:56 AM
Have I suggested Texas?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: JB42 on July 22, 2003, 11:16:19 AM
I thought Indy or St. Louis would be good. They are smack dab in the middle of the country. Easy to get to by car or puddle jumper.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mini D on July 22, 2003, 11:17:44 AM
Texas
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: firbal on July 22, 2003, 11:25:15 AM
I like the idea of having it here again in Dallas. That way I don't have to take any vacation days, just show up after work.  :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: 38ruk on July 22, 2003, 12:05:41 PM
middle america so its an even hop for all hehe
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: nuchpatrick on July 22, 2003, 12:11:51 PM
One thing.. needs to not be during the middle of summer!!  More like fall when business slacks off when I can get away from the office.
Title: And OHMYGAWD
Post by: rshubert on July 22, 2003, 12:27:42 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
I agree with AKAK. Hell, just Balboa Park itself is a good reason to go... that place is incredible.


Do I have some stories I could tell you about tijuana.  It's been YEARS.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 22, 2003, 12:28:56 PM
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Originally posted by Rude
Have I suggested Texas?


Have you suggested to HOST it yourself in TX ?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Modas on July 22, 2003, 12:30:52 PM
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Originally posted by fffreeze220
Bremen, Germany ? :D


Where is that in relation to Augsburg?  I'd be up for that!!!  Got a buddy in Augsburg that I'm gonna see next year.  Hopefully for Octoberfest :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ergRTC on July 22, 2003, 12:35:48 PM
Jordi should come up and put it together in our nations capitol.   They will be opening the new Air and Space Museum at Dulles by then.  some other reasons...

1.  Great transportation
2.  Three airports withing 40 miles
3.   its nice here.

oh yeah, and it would be very convienent for me.  Besides, you could check out the memorials too.  The new wwii veterans memorial should be ready by then as well (right between the korean and vietnam memorial s on the mall).
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Airscrew on July 22, 2003, 12:48:35 PM
Corpus Christi  Texas,  

One reason,  USS Lexington
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gofaster on July 22, 2003, 01:40:16 PM
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Originally posted by MajTom
Corpus Christi  Texas,  

One reason,  USS Lexington


That's not a bad idea.  Not bad at all.

Then again, Charleston SC has the USS Yorktown with its air museum, the SS Clamagore WW2 submarine, the DD Laffey destroyer, a Coast Guard Cutter, a Vietnam support base (replica) with helicopters and a PT boat.  There's also Ft. Sumter and the CSS Hunley.

And buxom Southern debutante college girls from the College of Charleston walking around in their Summer clothes.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 22, 2003, 01:43:26 PM
The 98 AW CON was in San Fran and we visited a WWII Carrier - it was neat.

The 2002 AW CON was supposed to be in SC in Charleston - but with the demise of AW it never took place.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: DrDea on July 22, 2003, 02:41:37 PM
Washington DC   Main reason?  Air and space museum.Well that and Im about 90 mins away  ;)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ergRTC on July 22, 2003, 02:43:07 PM
hagerstown is a beautiful place.  Just drove through there on the way back from the indi con.  


worst mcdonalds service ....  ever.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: DrDea on July 22, 2003, 02:45:21 PM
Yea tell me about it.Thats why I go to  burger King :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Lone Wolf on July 22, 2003, 03:18:14 PM
Hmmm...Houston ain't bad.  Has NASA, hub for several airlines, lots to eat/drink/dance/whatever (lots of real sheep), Lone Star Flight Museum, what may be the best airshow in the nation (when it don't get rained out).
Downside-heat (we have one day of winter when it gets below 60-heat and humidity) and humidity-you swim to your car after wrork.  INS has a strong pres..pere..there a lot of 'em down here so some individuals (ya know like Chief, Coach, Egger)Might not be allowed in ;>
-now whos the sucker to run it
LW
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Shiva on July 22, 2003, 03:31:37 PM
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Originally posted by MajTom
Corpus Christi  Texas,  

One reason,  USS Lexington


How about an alternative with better weather?

The Secretary of the Navy has announced that the USS Midway will be donated to the San Diego Aircraft Carrier Museum. Expected to arrive in October 2003 in time for Fleet Week, to be moored at Navy Pier in the Embarcadero, with the grand opening tentatively scheduled for late spring of 2004.

(http://www.midway.org/proj/9-Museum_Entrance.gif)

For more information about the project, go to  http://www.midway.org/ (http://www.midway.org/)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: 2stony on July 22, 2003, 03:33:32 PM
How about the Museum of Flight in Seattle. The new fighter wing opens on June 6, 2004. This collection is the old Champlin one from Mesa, but the planes will be surrounded by a pilot's lounge, a carrier deck and a WWI trench with two planes dogfighting overhead. The new exhibits will be outstanding and there will be two additional "full motion" simulators in addition to the two already in operation. Ripsnort has flown these, so he can give you his evaluation. The simulators can be set up to dogfight each other also. There are plenty of facilities for a convention right at the museum, so it would be a good place to hold it.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ccvi on July 22, 2003, 03:34:47 PM
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Originally posted by Modas
Where is that in relation to Augsburg?  I'd be up for that!!!  Got a buddy in Augsburg that I'm gonna see next year.  Hopefully for Octoberfest :D


Somewhat opposite end of Germany. estimated 400 miles (without looking at map, but my geography sucks).
Title: Re: And OHMYGAWD
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 22, 2003, 04:10:09 PM
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Originally posted by rshubert
Do I have some stories I could tell you about tijuana.  It's been YEARS.




Anyone that's been to TJ has has some stories to tell...


Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 22, 2003, 04:15:51 PM
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Originally posted by Shiva
How about an alternative with better weather?

The Secretary of the Navy has announced that the USS Midway will be donated to the San Diego Aircraft Carrier Museum. Expected to arrive in October 2003 in time for Fleet Week, to be moored at Navy Pier in the Embarcadero, with the grand opening tentatively scheduled for late spring of 2004.

(http://www.midway.org/proj/9-Museum_Entrance.gif)

For more information about the project, go to  http://www.midway.org/ (http://www.midway.org/)



There's also public tours of the active carriers that are moored at North Island.

Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: rod367th on July 22, 2003, 04:22:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Should have one in San Diego.  In the summer time, no other place in the country has weather as fine.  And there's a crap load of things to do for the Con goer.  There's the San Diego Aerospace Museum in Balboa Park and at Gillespie Field, as well as a C.A.F. museum at Gillespie Field.  There's also a Marine aviation museum, "The Flying Leathernecks Museum" at Miramar MCAS.  There's miles and miles of great beaches, crap load of golf courses and Tijuana is only a 5 minute drive to the south.  Best place to have a convention.


Ack-Ack




 It makes to much sense akak San diego is to perfect for con. I would in heart beat & could bring wife and the kids, Let wife and kids go to san diego wild animal park. Or 500 other family things to do. weather is always nice. and as for ww2 birds at least 10 still flying warbirds r at international airport in hangers. I'm sure we could get into them. Also If I remember right the new dogfighter company is opening a san diego office this year.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 22, 2003, 04:43:56 PM
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Originally posted by rod367th
It makes to much sense akak San diego is to perfect for con. I would in heart beat & could bring wife and the kids, Let wife and kids go to san diego wild animal park. Or 500 other family things to do. weather is always nice. and as for ww2 birds at least 10 still flying warbirds r at international airport in hangers. I'm sure we could get into them. Also If I remember right the new dogfighter company is opening a san diego office this year.



The San Diego Aerospace Museum and the local CAF unit both have hangers at Gillespie Field in the East County that they use to store some of their flyable planes.  The CAF museum also has a recently rebuilt P-82.  Both hangers are open to the public 7 days a week.  There's also an air-combat company at Palomar airport.

Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: nopoop on July 22, 2003, 07:10:23 PM
My lady said she'd love to go to Texas.

So I put her on the plane..

I want to go to Texas too, but I'm going to wait for the con..
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Steve on July 22, 2003, 07:13:39 PM
AKAK, I can stay at your place?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ramesis on July 22, 2003, 07:13:43 PM
Give Me Atlanta/Mobile/Pensacola or give Me death LOL
Oh well I tried :)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Reschke on July 22, 2003, 08:44:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ramesis
Give Me Atlanta/Mobile/Pensacola or give Me death LOL
Oh well I tried :)


Heck Ramesis we should probably push for it to happen in Birmingham then. Its a little far from Pensacola and Mobile buts its in my backyard and you are not far from here. Maybe we could con Jordi into getting it setup again and let us host it...;) Other than that I wouldn't mind seeing it happen in Texas again say in the late fall of 2004.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Bullethead on July 22, 2003, 10:11:14 PM
Grapevine, Texas
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 22, 2003, 10:45:50 PM
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Originally posted by Bullethead
Grapevine, Texas


You going to HOST it - or make Hitech do it ?

Jordi
Title: Re: Re: And OHMYGAWD
Post by: -Concho- on July 22, 2003, 11:02:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Anyone that's been to TJ has has some stories to tell...


Ack-Ack


that little dude with the whistle and the tequilla...   whew
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ozark on July 22, 2003, 11:55:10 PM
Here’s a trip down memory lane.
The 332nd Flying Mongrels at Con 2002. (http://www.arff.info/Con2002.htm)
Title: Why I Like Grapevine
Post by: Bullethead on July 23, 2003, 12:11:31 AM
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Originally posted by jordi
You going to HOST it - or make Hitech do it ?

Jordi


Hell no I ain't hosting.  I want to enjoy the Con :D.  You busted your bellybutton for this past Con and while I greatly appreciate your efforts, it didn't look like fun to me.  Besides, I don't even live there ;).

But I really like the Grapevine location, because (off the top of my head):
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 23, 2003, 12:20:44 AM
All good points.

Now do you know anyone ELSE who lives close by that can host it ?   :)


Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ozark on July 23, 2003, 12:37:06 AM
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Now do you know anyone ELSE who lives close by that can host it ?

I've noticed this statement has been repeated several times in this thread. Is this a hint that HTC will no longer host Cons?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mini D on July 23, 2003, 12:40:20 AM
Jordi... thanks for hosting the 2003 con.  It really was apreciated.  What you are doing in this thread is diminishing that contribution greatly.

MiniD
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Animal on July 23, 2003, 12:49:35 AM
But MiniD, are you willing to HOST it if he STFU?

Because he was WILLING to HOST it so that HTC can ENJOY themselves.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mini D on July 23, 2003, 12:52:22 AM
Maybe if HTC hosts it in Texas they might show up.  They always have in the past.

The hosting in Indiana was apreciated.  I don't mean to slight anyone for the hard work they put into it.

And I don't like the chip that was placed on someone's shoulder as a result of it.

Once again... thanks for the effor Jordi.  Just please don't think it makes you some kind of official criticizer of everyone that wants it back in Texas.

MiniD
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Raubvogel on July 23, 2003, 05:29:20 AM
Grapevine would be cool.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Animal on July 23, 2003, 05:44:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Raubvogel
Grapevine would be cool.


Are you willing to HOST it so that HTC can ENJOY themselves?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Creamo on July 23, 2003, 06:20:55 AM
When is the next AW Con anyway?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Pei on July 23, 2003, 06:51:51 AM
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Originally posted by funkedup
Grapevine owns.


Hear, Hear, brother funked!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 23, 2003, 07:05:49 AM
There just might be a person or group or Squad in the Dallas / Grapevine area ( or another city ) that is willing to step up and put a proposal together to Hitech to Run and Host the next CON.

I have ZERO CLue what Hitech is going to do next. He could dcide the Indy CON was a total failure and never have an outside person run and host a con again. He could decide that it would be nice to have someone else do it every so often so they can spend more time on real work for the game.

If no one decides to try to host it then they will have to run and host it themselves.

And that is perfectly fine by me.

I am hoping that someone looks at the Indy CON and says - Hey - I can do that - I could even do BETTER than the Indy CON.

No one knows WHAT will happen until someone ask and finds out one way or another.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mini D on July 23, 2003, 07:42:42 AM
Ummm... the point is: there isn't a need for you to ramrod that down someone's throat every time they say "grapevine".

You've said your piece... we get it.  Get on with life... the Indiana con is over.

MiniD
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: DrDea on July 23, 2003, 08:14:28 AM
Actually he didnt just say that about Texas.He said it about a few other cities too.How about reading a little better before ya go jumping on someones back?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ergRTC on July 23, 2003, 08:16:14 AM
minid you are being obstinate for no apparent reason.

I am thinking grapevine is best too, it has a central location, and I have a better chance of backing over a member of the bush family if we are down there.


I think the player base from the south is much larger than other areas in the US, so you might as well make it as easy as possible for the largest number of players.  


And all of bulletheads points as well.  Except maybe the porn, and the gallon jugs of beer.  I prefer easy to lift bottles or cans.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: WestyAH on July 23, 2003, 09:09:25 AM
"Now do you know anyone ELSE who lives close by that can host it ? "


  Hey!!   Arlo lives in Texas!!

 (in true "Commisioner Gordon" style, Westy trundles to the outside balconey, switches on the high intensity light and immediately the sillouette of an I-16 is emblazoned on the low lying clouds calling to the red "muleta" wearing crusader)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gofaster on July 23, 2003, 09:30:38 AM
Quote
Originally posted by jordi
I am hoping that someone looks at the Indy CON and says - Hey - I can do that - I could even do BETTER than the Indy CON.


Hey, Jordi, how about doing a quick write-up of things that need to get done to run a con, with some advice based on your experience.

I figure:

- find a hotel.  Ok, how much capacity should it have?  Anything a con-runner should beware of in the hotel agreement?  What snafus did you get?  How many people attended the con?

- find entertainment.  So is it worth renting a bus to the airshow?  What sort of clauses should the bussing agreement have?  What problems did you encounter?  What was the level of interest in that?  How many attendees went?

- lining up speakers.  Got any names and/or addresses of people that had expressed interest in giving presentations at the Indy con but couldn't make it for some reason?  Got any email addresses for WW2 veteran associations?

- dinner.  What should a con-runner look for in finding a caterer?

- miscellaneous.  How much time did you spend on average per week in returning calls, lining up stuff, verifying registration, counting money, etc. ?  How big of a hassle would it be, and can one person do it all or should a con-runner recruit some assistance?

I'm thinking if I did it in Orlando, most of the hotel convention stuff would be kind of standard, since its such a touristy/business convention type town.  The downside is I live an hour or so away so most of my legwork would be by phone and email.  Would it be better to do it my town or find someone in Orlando to do it?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mini D on July 23, 2003, 10:32:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DrDea
Actually he didnt just say that about Texas.He said it about a few other cities too.How about reading a little better before ya go jumping on someones back?
LOL! find one before lecturing me Jr.
Quote
minid you are being obstinate for no apparent reason.
You almost make it sound as if I came in saying the exact same thing 4 different times.

MiniD
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 23, 2003, 10:34:45 AM
Quote
Originally posted by jordi
Have you suggested to HOST it yourself in TX ?


Why would I do that?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 23, 2003, 10:37:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by jordi
You going to HOST it - or make Hitech do it ?

Jordi


So you host a Con and now we all have to do the same? You sound like an ex-smoker.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Raubvogel on July 23, 2003, 10:39:59 AM
Yeah, but have you offered to HOST it?!!!!!!????
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 23, 2003, 10:40:18 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Animal
Are you willing to HOST it so that HTC can ENJOY themselves?


Is that our obligation? They own and operate a business for profit...their con is part of doing business. Some of you guys are silly.

I know Dale and Co. work hard at these cons....I would suspect any help from players would be welcomed....but for you and Jordi to imply that the player base is somehow obligated is laughable.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 23, 2003, 10:43:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Raubvogel
Yeah, but have you offered to HOST it?!!!!!!????


Me Ruab?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Raubvogel on July 23, 2003, 10:48:22 AM
Rude said "me"! He's going to HOST it!!!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 23, 2003, 10:55:52 AM
Stop that!!!

:)

My point is that for me personally, I wanna play, not work. I already work....the con is decompression for me.

Now if someone wants to step up like Jordi did, I think thats great...however, it's not a liscense to dictate that others are obligated to do the same.

The Best Con ever was Boa's effort in 98....maybe you guys should call him:)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Raubvogel on July 23, 2003, 11:03:53 AM
I totally agree.

I don't think anyone would want to attend a Con coordinated by the FDBs.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: WestyAH on July 23, 2003, 11:03:56 AM
"The Best Con ever was Boa's effort in 98....maybe you guys should call him"

 The story is that they could never find him after he fell from the balconey down into the bushes below.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 23, 2003, 11:14:43 AM
My point is that 3 things will happen for next years CON.

1. Hitech decides to run and host it themselves like they have done in the past.

2. A group in / around Dallas offers to run and host the con for them in / around the Dallas area.

3. A group NOT in TX offers to run and host it in some other city / state.

There could be right now several groups already hatching ideas to run and host next years con.

All I am doing is pointing out that if it can be done ONCE by someone then it could be done again.

I hope someone looks at what I did and says - Geez I could do a MUCH BETTER JOB and runs with the idea.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 23, 2003, 11:17:57 AM
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Originally posted by WestyAH
"The Best Con ever was Boa's effort in 98....maybe you guys should call him"

 The story is that they could never find him after he fell from the balconey down into the bushes below.


That was my FIRST AW CON I attended.

It is all a blur now.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 23, 2003, 11:42:11 AM
I was referring to the WB's con....although it too is a blur to many who attended i'm sure:)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2003, 11:43:18 AM
Didn't Stilleto do the '98 Con in SF?


Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: funkedup on July 23, 2003, 11:44:40 AM
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Originally posted by Rude
Stop that!!!

:)

My point is that for me personally, I wanna play, not work. I already work....the con is decompression for me.

Now if someone wants to step up like Jordi did, I think thats great...however, it's not a liscense to dictate that others are obligated to do the same.

The Best Con ever was Boa's effort in 98....maybe you guys should call him:)


Boa was at the 2002 AH Con.  Sign him up.  :)
Title: Once more, with feeling!
Post by: gofaster on July 23, 2003, 12:09:36 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Hey, Jordi, how about doing a quick write-up of things that need to get done to run a con, with some advice based on your experience.

I figure:

- find a hotel.  Ok, how much capacity should it have?  Anything a con-runner should beware of in the hotel agreement?  What snafus did you get?  How many people attended the con?

- find entertainment.  So is it worth renting a bus to the airshow?  What sort of clauses should the bussing agreement have?  What problems did you encounter?  What was the level of interest in that?  How many attendees went?

- lining up speakers.  Got any names and/or addresses of people that had expressed interest in giving presentations at the Indy con but couldn't make it for some reason?  Got any email addresses for WW2 veteran associations?

- dinner.  What should a con-runner look for in finding a caterer?

- miscellaneous.  How much time did you spend on average per week in returning calls, lining up stuff, verifying registration, counting money, etc. ?  How big of a hassle would it be, and can one person do it all or should a con-runner recruit some assistance?

I'm thinking if I did it in Orlando, most of the hotel convention stuff would be kind of standard, since its such a touristy/business convention type town.  The downside is I live an hour or so away so most of my legwork would be by phone and email.  Would it be better to do it my town or find someone in Orlando to do it?


... or I could just keep reading this thread's subtle insults and imagined offenses.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: DrDea on July 23, 2003, 12:27:34 PM
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If it is done in TX ( or elsewhere ) - I think a group of players should STEP UP and VOLUNTEER TO RUN AND HOST it ( Like I did in Indy ) this will allow the crew at HTC come and actually ENJOY themselves instead of WORKING to pull the CON off.



  Call me crazy but I thought that (or elsewhere)  coulda meant somewhere besides Texas.Silly me.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: WestyAH on July 23, 2003, 12:43:39 PM
"...WB's con"


My bad.  And my heads spinning now. Too many people using too few handles for me to keep track of...

(Westy falls off balconey, lands in bsushes below..... and






 you could only WISH he was never heard from again ;) )
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 23, 2003, 01:01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Didn't Stilleto do the '98 Con in SF?


Ack-Ack


Yepper - that was him.

And I do not even DRINK and I got it wrong !

:)

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Mini D on July 23, 2003, 01:29:23 PM
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Originally posted by DrDea
Call me crazy but I thought that (or elsewhere)  coulda meant somewhere besides Texas.Silly me.
It was referring to HTC running it vs someone else.  Or elsewhere was in parentheses for a reason.  Read the first line silly.  Read every other response silly.  Really... reading comprehention is not that difficult.

Or try this: find one that mentions another location by name.

MiniD
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: DrDea on July 23, 2003, 01:48:40 PM
Now see?Your calling me silly when I said call me crazy.Reading comprehention problems seem to be contagious:eek:
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: SOB on July 23, 2003, 02:08:38 PM
Speaking of fuzzy...Boa did the WB Con in '97.  That is, unless he did the '98 con too, but I don't think he's THAT crazy...well, maybe.  :D


SOB

-edit-  Oh, and to end all of the controversy, I will host the 2004 AH Con.  It will be held in my 1 bedroom apt.  I have a broadband connection, and a cupboard with a big bottle of jack, plus Absolute & Jager Meister in the freezer.  What more could ya need?!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2003, 02:09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Rude
I was referring to the WB's con....although it too is a blur to many who attended i'm sure:)



Hehe I have some hazy memories of the '98 Con...the Vampires...the Flak Oil from in the Rogue Gryffon's hospitality suite...Mooney...fire alarm going off at 3am...trying to get 20 drunk guys together for a mission to steal the pool table from the vampires...keg in the war room...shooting down AC and Wild Bill while some local news station filmed it...and a real bad hangover...


Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 23, 2003, 02:12:58 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
SOB

-edit-  Oh, and to end all of the controversy, I will host the 2004 AH Con.  It will be held in my 1 bedroom apt.  I have a broadband connection, and a cupboard with a big bottle of jack, plus Absolute & Jager Meister in the freezer.  What more could ya need?!


There you go - the Community STEPS FORWARD !

:)

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ergRTC on July 23, 2003, 05:01:32 PM
I think we should take sob up on that.


Actually 2 things...
1st
comprehension

rather important to spell it right when you are referring to reading.

2nd

Anybody got a nice farm out in texas somewhere with plenty of room?  Wouldnt it kick bellybutton to get a t1 hooked up to it and have the convention be something of a campout?  Just imagine the potential...

bbqs 24/7
kegs up the wazzoo
tornadoes
rabid armadillos!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Silat on July 23, 2003, 06:04:16 PM
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Originally posted by jordi
If it is done in TX ( or elsewhere ) - I think a group of players should STEP UP and VOLUNTEER TO RUN AND HOST it ( Like I did in Indy ) this will allow the crew at HTC come and actually ENJOY themselves instead of WORKING to pull the CON off.

Jordi



:D  What ??????? Of course they should work to put on con for their customers. What are you thinking? :p
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2003, 06:53:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jordi
Yepper - that was him.

And I do not even DRINK and I got it wrong !

:)

Jordi



I was there.  I was the one that had the two dueling stations set up until some stunninghunk stole the network cables and somehow broke one of the NIC cards.


Ack-Ack
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Bullethead on July 23, 2003, 07:35:40 PM
jordi said:
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I am hoping that someone looks at the Indy CON and says - Hey - I can do that - I could even do BETTER than the Indy CON.


Jordi-

Please don't take my reasons for liking Grapevine better than Indy as a location as a slam on your efforts.  I had a WONDERFUL time at Indy, all because of you (and the unsung heroine, Mrs. Jordi), and I'm duly appreciative.  If Indy had a venue with the same amenities (not counting the proximity of my sister) as Grapevine, I wouldn't have a preference between them.  Travel distance really means nothing to me.

But the simple fact is, you are WAY better-suited than most of us reprobates to host a Con.  #1, you don't drink.  #2, you have a wife who's willing to help you with the enormous amount of work, and she doesn't drink, either.  The rest of us, however, are mostly sociopathic drunks somewhere between our 7th and 8th doomed shackings-up.  We can't even balance our checkbooks or remember to pay our bills, let alone handle the burden of hosting a Con.  And if we were ever drunk enough to volunteer for it anyway, it would be an unparalleled disaster, because there'd be 1 or 2 guys like you sober enough to notice ;).

Besides, I kinda enjoyed last year watching HT being snot-slinging drunk the whole time and Yankee keeping the ship afloat.  I hope HT remembered he thought she deserved a raise for her efforts :D
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: moose on July 24, 2003, 01:25:42 AM
You guys all forgot the sole reason for the Con needing to be in Texas.

THE whoopee GIRLS!

I dream of Texas-caliber girls every night. I need to get lost in Austin again!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: krazyhorse on July 24, 2003, 08:47:58 AM
hehe fun thread  HAWAII is my vote, close enuff for us in the states and canada and might even get a few of the japonese squads to come over, nice golfing beutiful beaches, pearl harbor.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 24, 2003, 09:00:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Bullethead
jordi said:


Jordi-

Please don't take my reasons for liking Grapevine better than Indy as a location as a slam on your efforts.   :D


None taken.

I think most of the points you made were spot on.

It was just a general reference to any group in TX that feels they would like to try and run and host a CON down there.

I am looking FORWARD to attending a CON and flying and having FUN and not working at it !

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gunnss on July 24, 2003, 10:56:47 AM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Do any players actually live in Grapevine, TX?


I used to but I movet to New Mexico for the Weather, Went to a AW con in Huston once, Had to wear a swim mask.

Gunns
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gunnss on July 24, 2003, 11:10:14 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ergRTC
I think we should take sob up on that.


2nd

Anybody got a nice farm out in texas somewhere with plenty of room?  Wouldnt it kick bellybutton to get a t1 hooked up to it and have the convention be something of a campout?  Just imagine the potential...

bbqs 24/7
kegs up the wazzoo
tornadoes
rabid armadillos!



Ever camp in Texas in the summer???

95 deg + temps at 95% humidity.......
I had an airconditioner for my tent...........

Gunns
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: ergRTC on July 24, 2003, 12:06:04 PM
ahh...  just imagine the smell of a well seasoned aher after 3 days of beer bbq and 95 degree weather.


Itll make a man of ya!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: YANKEE on July 25, 2003, 10:35:49 AM
Please see the following announcement.


http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92315



Yankee
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: WestyAH on July 25, 2003, 10:40:18 AM
Sacre bleu!


Well. Now what shall we talk about.

Where's Lasse when you need him the most? ;)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Toad on July 25, 2003, 10:41:07 AM
Greater love hath no man than he give up the early bird season to visit with Yankee and Ronnie.

I will pencil this in on my calendar... and I'll bring the Cheesy Corn!

;)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 25, 2003, 10:58:26 AM
Thanks for the update !

Now all those First Time AH CON Attendees who were at the AH CN 2003 have something to plan for !

And thanks for giving me the oppurtunity to run and host the 2003 CON.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: firbal on July 25, 2003, 11:26:18 AM
Hey, now I don't need to take time off from work. Good news and plenty of time to plan.
Title: Tejas
Post by: AmmoNM on July 25, 2003, 12:18:09 PM
By George, I may be able to make my very first con in '04. Grapevine, TX...Yeah, I could make that.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Grimm on July 25, 2003, 12:56:12 PM
Great News about the 2004 CON.

My suggestion was this... 2004 in TX,  Then 2005 away and alternate each year.    along with this was to move the date back so it wasnt in July/Aug.  

Glad to see this as a possibility.    

I hope I can work this into my 2004 vacation plans.
Title: Grapevine!
Post by: Octavius on July 25, 2003, 01:22:23 PM
Woohoo!  We're goin to Texas... Guess I gotta practice my southern drawl!
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Creamo on July 25, 2003, 01:27:39 PM
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Originally posted by jordi


And thanks for giving me the oppurtunity to run and host the 2003 CON.

Jordi


And so it ends.

Good job Jordi, not posting anymore about it will be a terrific relief for ya. Ask the AK's.

No reply needed, really.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 25, 2003, 01:32:28 PM
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Originally posted by Creamo
And so it ends.

Good job Jordi, not posting anymore about it will be a terrific relief for ya. Ask the AK's.

No reply needed, really.


Ok - I won't reply.

Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Tarmac on July 25, 2003, 07:35:59 PM
October?  Might actually be able to make it... :)
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: -Concho- on July 25, 2003, 07:49:13 PM
Sounds like a scooter ride, only 300 miles for me.
Title: Sonora...Sonora
Post by: AmmoNM on July 25, 2003, 08:13:57 PM
Thats where the caves are isn't? Cute little Hispanic girl works at the Sonic there, if that's the right Sonora.

Near where those Texas boys "plays the foosball"...
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: -Concho- on July 25, 2003, 08:54:49 PM
thats right, but you have to watch the cute little hispanic girls.  they're breeders
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: gunnss on July 26, 2003, 01:57:10 AM
Mmmmmm I vote we all got to the Bona Braza For lunch...
Brazilian BBQ,   used to eat there once a month when I lived n Grapevine.  BTW I worked at the FAA ARTC in Ft Worth for 5 years I might be able to get a small number in to look at the center, or maby a tower tour at DFW or Alliance or Meacham


Gunns
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: firbal on July 26, 2003, 09:09:32 AM
Hey, I think I can get a tour of Lockheed Martin plant here in Ft Worth. The F-16 and soon the F-35 are built here. I jus asked my supervisor about looking into arranging it. Still a long time to go. But I should have some info soon. But soon at Lockheed maybe in 2 weeks. Really. They are slow in getting stuff done here.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: snakeman on July 27, 2003, 01:40:26 PM
Did I hear my name mentioned in here somewhere? :p
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: B17Skull12 on July 27, 2003, 05:19:29 PM
how munch will the cost be? i really want to go so i have to start saving up.


Skull12
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: JB73 on July 27, 2003, 05:23:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by B17Skull12
how munch will the cost be? i really want to go so i have to start saving up.


Skull12
this years was $140 i think....

hotel and travel are your own expenses.
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: B17Skull12 on July 27, 2003, 05:35:32 PM
how long would it take to drive from san antionio to grapevine? i could just stay at my uncles house and have my dad or something drive me out and drop me off and pick me up while he spends the day with his brother


skull12
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: JB73 on July 27, 2003, 05:39:48 PM
i dunno .. i live in wisconsin lol
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: Rude on July 27, 2003, 10:16:12 PM
Have I suggested Texas?
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: jordi on July 27, 2003, 10:18:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Rude
Have I suggested Texas?


Yes you did - and so did I !

Like minds and all

:)


Jordi
Title: Convention 2004
Post by: -Concho- on July 27, 2003, 11:02:43 PM
5 or 6 hours from here skull, i'm just up the road a bit