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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on July 22, 2003, 08:21:49 AM
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Winners of Autoweeks "America's Best" (http://autos.msn.com/advice/photogallery.aspx?contentid=4021994)
Disregard that BMW represents 31% of the winners.
Pre-emptive:
"Oh, of course, Autoweek is paid off by advertisers and manufacturers in the form of the highest bid!"
(http://www.blizzforums.com/images/smilies/poking.gif)Funked. :)
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I miss Joe Isuzu
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I miss Joe Isuzu
Great commercials, and from what I heard at the time, very effective marketing.
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Wasnt Joe izusu that fast talking kidder of a saleman. He was funny, buy a car from him, his gain, your loss. What a concept.
:D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Winners of Autoweeks "America's Best" (http://autos.msn.com/advice/photogallery.aspx?contentid=4021994)
Disregard that BMW represents 31% of the winners.
Pre-emptive:
"Oh, of course, Autoweek is paid off by advertisers and manufacturers in the form of the highest bid!"
(http://www.blizzforums.com/images/smilies/poking.gif)Funked. :)
Where's the "Best Sports Car For Less Than $28,000" category?
The only fun vehicle on that list that I can afford is the F-150 truck.
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so... I guess there really are no new cars that are any fun.
lazs
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"America's" best orginates from a factory in Bavaria? :D
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Originally posted by Dowding
"America's" best orginates from a factory in Bavaria? :D
Yep. blame our unions. :(
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Yep. blame our unions. :(
yeah, why they won't work for minimum wage and live 50 to a hut is beyond me:p
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Why blame the unions? German automotive workers are highly paid and have very strong unions, yet they make the best cars in the world and are highly profitable.
I'd say bad management and unsuccessful design/market realisation has something to with it.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'd say bad management and unsuccessful design/market realisation has something to with it.
Trust me, they're not as highly paid as our auto workers are...maybe in benefits..but not in cash. And yes, I'll give you the bad management and bad marketing to go with it.
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I thought you believed Europe was a socialist mecca? Free health care and highly paid. :D
I'd like to see a comparison of US and German auto workers - I've no idea what will be there but it might be an eye-opener.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I thought you believed Europe was a socialist mecca? Free health care and highly paid. :D
I'd like to see a comparison of US and German auto workers - I've no idea what will be there but it might be an eye-opener.
I see your memory is bad at a young age, my deepest sympathies as Alzheimers sets in soon, my deepest sympathies as Alzheimers sets in soon, (I said it twice in case you forget)
I said Europe is a socialist mecca, free health care, education (both personal/parental responsibilities IMO) and HIGH TAXES.
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Taxation is not neccessarily an issue here - disposable income is. If German auto workers get paid more than Yank ones, their disposable income might be the same despite the higher taxes. And they get free health care etc. But like I said, I don't know what the true figures are.
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Apparently price was not a consideration in these rankings.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Apparently price was not a consideration in these rankings.
Never is, when you're simply discussing "Best".
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I disagree.
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Originally posted by funkedup
I disagree.
I know. :) It isn't a "Best Bang for your buck, rice burning,POS that will turbo burn out your engine by 100,000 miles" contest.
Most of these cars listed will probably be touring the country 40 years from now in a classics car tour.
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Actually... looks like price was the primary consideration. Somehow most expensive translated to "the best".
And they definately missed the boat on the Coupe... G35 gets my vote there hands down.
And a Porsche as the best SUV? Yeppers... this is hard nose fact finding reporting at its best.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I know. :) It isn't a "Best Bang for your buck, rice burning,POS that will turbo burn out your engine by 100,000 miles" contest.
Most of these cars listed will probably be touring the country 40 years from now in a classics car tour.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Most of these cars listed will probably be touring the country 40 years from now in a classics car tour.
All but 4 that I can see.
Or are you trying to say that BMW has stopped the trend of turning into worthless POSs after 10 years? Gonna have to disagree with that sentiment.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
All but 4 that I can see.
Or are you trying to say that BMW has stopped the trend of turning into worthless POSs after 10 years? Gonna have to disagree with that sentiment.
MiniD
You are isolated in Oregon, aren't you!
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cliped from BMW web site.....
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The BMW plant near Spartanburg in South Carolina, USA, began producing BMW automobiles for the world market in 1994. Today, it manufactures the BMW X5 and the BMW Z4 Roadster.
Due to the success of these automobiles, the Spartanburg plant has had to be substantially enlarged. Its output was expanded by adding additional shifts, introducing flexible working hour models, and hiring new employees. Today, the Spartanburg plant is open six days a week, producing automobiles approximately 110 hours a week.
Circa 4,700 employees manufacture over 500 vehicles daily.
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looks like yall driveing cars built by rednecks, yeehaw
addendem...
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Worldwide assembly plants.
The BMW Group strategy of ensuring that production is tuned to market demands around the world also applies to smaller markets with worthwhile potential, in which customs regulations may, for example, complicate the import of complete automobiles. In such areas, the BMW Group manufactures automobiles from parts kits in assembly plants. This is the so-called “Completely Knocked Down” (CKD) production process.
In the CKD process, certain parts and components are packaged as kits in precisely defined assembly steps and exported for assembly in the respective countries. These kits are then supplemented with locally manufactured parts in the partner countries. Assembly takes place on location with adherence to the BMW Group's global quality standards.
Currently, the BMW Group uses CKD assembly to manufacture automobiles with partners in eight locations (Malaysia, the Philippines, Russia, Vietnam, Egypt, Thailand, Indonesia, and Mexico). In 2003, the BMW Group will begin manufacturing its BMW 3 and BMW 5 Series with a corporate partner in China.
Updated May 21, 2003
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so much for "german worker craftsmenship"
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*Insert Dueling Banjos*
You done thought you bought you a German car dincha? Squeeeeeal piggy!
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LOL rip! Is that the best you can do? Once again... you've been spending too much time on the bimmerfest forums discussing how simply awesome your car is with other beemer owners that totally agree with you.
Me... I just look at the car lots and see 1993 BMWs with $3000 written on the window.
MiniD
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Tell me how I would rather have a Porsche Cayenne off road than say... a Land Rover, or a Jeep?
silly list.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Tell me how I would rather have a Porsche Cayenne off road than say... a Land Rover, or a Jeep?
silly list.
Assuming you had disposable income? Probably Horse power?(Shrugs)
Personally, I'd rather have a Ford F350.
Mini, you trying to get booted again? Please, go into one of your rages, I enjoy them! :D
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Originally posted by funkedup
*Insert Dueling Banjos*
You done thought you bought you a German car dincha? Squeeeeeal piggy!
ROTFLOL!!!!!! Tears! Streaming!!!
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Ummm... trying to get booted? For what? disagreeing with you?
Wow.
MiniD
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lol john... but who originated and designed the cars, designed the manufacturing process and where is said company from?
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Originally posted by Mini D
Ummm... trying to get booted? For what? disagreeing with you?
Wow.
MiniD
No, I mean booted, like in banned... like your ISP no workie with the AH forums because you can't control your temper (tsk tsk) ...you have a short memory don't you?
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Originally posted by john9001
"so much for "german worker craftsmenship"
I don't think humans touch the automobile these days, its so automated,(and the fact that S.C. only produces two models of the BMW family).... but like Dowding said...German designed.
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it's easy to tell where you car was built , check the first digit of the vin number, 1=USA, 2=canada, J=japan,etc, i don't know the code for mexico or germany,but i'm sure it can be found.
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Dingolfing plant, Germany here.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
No, I mean booted, like in banned... like your ISP no workie with the AH forums because you can't control your temper (tsk tsk) ...you have a short memory don't you?
control my temper? Are you talking about in this thread rip? Because you're really starting to stretch things.
Cause if you're simply still talking about another thread... you're doing nothing to dispell the statements made there.
I still don't know why you are throwing any kind of "control your temper" statements into this thread.
MiniD
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Originally posted by funkedup
Apparently price was not a consideration in these rankings.
Yeah, I keep looking for a "America's Best" for less than $28,000 but it ain't happening. Unless I want a minivan or F150. I wonder what the lap time would be in one of those.
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Woohoo my car is made at teh Dingofling plant.
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my Honda Accord was built in good ol Ohio, USA and it didn't cost $28,000.
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Im not even going to get into this one.