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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JBA on July 23, 2003, 09:40:19 AM
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Source: Commerce Dept. William D. Nordhaus
Direct cost of war, Cost, as a % of annual GDP
in billions of 2002 dollars
Revolutionary War $2.2 63%
War of 1812 $1.1 13%
Mexican War $1.6 3%
Civil War $6.1 104%
Spanish-Amer. War $9.6 3%
World War I $190.6 24%
World War II $2,896.30 130%
Korean War $335.9 15%
Vietnam War $494.3 12%
Gulf War I $76.1 1%
Gulf War II* $51.9 0.5%*
*Cost so far. Pentagon estimates ongoing cost of 3.9 billion per month
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What's Europe/Asia have to do with those figures?
(BTW it's too expensive)
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The cost of WWII. Was it to "expensive" to free these people from tyranny. What is the cost of Freedom?
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The difference is that WW2 was sold as a war of liberation from the start. Iraq was not - it was about WMD not freedom.
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So then, you're saying that our going to war in WWII would not have been just if the "advertised" reason for going into that war would have turned out to be false?
SOB
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Looks like the most cost-effective enemies are the Mexicans, the Spaniards and the Iraqis.
Liberate Mexico!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Looks like the most cost-effective enemies are the Mexicans, the Spaniards and the Iraqis.
Liberate Mexico!
So one down and two to go then?
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Firstly, I was under the impression the US was attacked and had war declared upon her. Secondly, a false casus belli is not a casus belli at all, is it?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Liberate Mexico!
and return California, Arizona, Navada, New Mexico, and Colorado to Mexico :D
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From what you wrote, I took it to mean that if the initial justification for the war is false, then the entire war is unjust. Was I reading it wrong? I would say that just because the initial cause for a war was false, that doesn't mean that it can't net positive result. I personally couldn't give a flying poop if they find WMD in Iraq, removing Sadaam from power was a just cause in my eyes.
SOB
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From what you wrote, I took it to mean that if the initial justification for the war is false, then the entire war is unjust. Was I reading it wrong?
The ins and outs of a just war scenario don't really interest me. I'm more concerned with the manipulation of information to gain approval for committing my country's resources and servicemen's lives in a cause of dubious value.
I would say that just because the initial cause for a war was false, that doesn't mean that it can't net positive result.
I don't disagree.
I personally couldn't give a flying poop if they find WMD in Iraq, removing Sadaam from power was a just cause in my eyes.
So if, hypothetically, they lied that would not bother you? If so, what other lies would you tolerate - do you have a line in the sand on this issue?
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In the end, I think (as I said), having Sadaam out of power is a good thing, which justifies the war to me. Whether the current administration in the White House lied about the WMD or not is a separate issue in my book. On that front, it's not black and white, and I doubt I'll ever have enough information at my disposal to make an educated judgement about whether or not the president was trying to decieve anyone.
SOB
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Just so I can start saving,
How much is it going to cost for WW III?
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Originally posted by Scootter
Just so I can start saving,
How much is it going to cost for WW III?
I don't think there's anyone paying the bills afterwards.
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Originally posted by JBA
Source: Commerce Dept. William D. Nordhaus
Direct cost of war, Cost, as a % of annual GDP
in billions of 2002 dollars
Revolutionary War $2.2 63%
War of 1812 $1.1 13%
Mexican War $1.6 3%
Civil War $6.1 104%
Spanish-Amer. War $9.6 3%
World War I $190.6 24%
World War II $2,896.30 130%
Korean War $335.9 15%
Vietnam War $494.3 12%
Gulf War I $76.1 1%
Gulf War II* $51.9 0.5%*
*Cost so far. Pentagon estimates ongoing cost of 3.9 billion per month
The US wasn't the only country to fight for the liberation or Europe and Asia in WWI & WWII, or the Korean and Gulf Wars either for that matter.