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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Echo1 on October 23, 2000, 11:00:00 PM
I am a current member of Gamestorm and play AirWarrior III online. I was wondering if anyone could give me some information on Aces High. Our squadron is looking for a change to a more detailed and stable connection platform. We recently are experiencing multiple problems with AWIII and would appreciate any information on this online WWII game.

Thank you for your time
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: SOB on October 23, 2000, 11:02:00 PM
Oh, where to start.  Ummm, ahhh....hell, I need a drink after all that thinking.  Somebody else is gonna have to take this one  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: 1776 on October 24, 2000, 12:18:00 AM
Ok, I still fly AW once a week with the VMF525 in FR.  I know what you are talking about regarding the connections. Last Sat nite 99% of our squad got the boot more then once!!  You will find in AH that connections are excellent and there is an entire forum dedicated to connections!!  BTW Skuzzy is the internet connect expert.

Regarding the sim, download it and play the H2H with your squad.  When ya feel comfortable then you can use your 2 free weeks to make a decision.

I find this to be much more interesting then AW, but that is just my opinion.

Good luck in your quest for a better sim (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
 
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on October 24, 2000, 12:20:00 AM
WHere to start: Download Aces high FE

Where to go from there: Install it and try out the software.

Now where?: If you think it's interesting, sign up for a free two week trial account and fly online.

Then what?: Pay for an account and stay on for a couple tours.

-SW
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Duckwing6 on October 24, 2000, 01:46:00 AM
COming from AW3 initialy you will find the learning cureve pretty steep, as AH models a lot more effects than the AW FM, like Torque etc..

That means you should consider getting either a twist stick or rudder peddals to fly it to the fullest (and to have the least problems during takoff  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))

There's several "helpre" functions in at this point like Auto-Takoff , which will fly you of teh runway and retract gear for you, Combat-Trim which will keep the airplane mostly in trim for the given airspeed (some AH a/C have prtey strong trim requirements)

If you have problems with the FM or the programm interface do not hesitate to contact  one of the trainers (you can find the contact on the AH help pages)

Cheers
DW6
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Westy on October 24, 2000, 09:00:00 AM
  Echo1, to be honest all you need to do is have each of your squad download AH and fly H2H for a week or two. Then open up free two week accountx and if the reasons and differences aren't emmediatley apparant,  then AH would not be for you and your squad.
 Not being a smart bellybutton but doing an "AW3 vs Aces High" is comparable to a "Gary Coleman vs Mike Tyson" fight.  There is not a single thing about AW3 that isn't trumped handily by AH and AH has so much more. Try AH. You'll see what I mean.
 
  -Westy
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Dinger on October 24, 2000, 09:24:00 AM
One note about H2H -- it only uses the AH server to organize the games -- everything else is on the host's computer (kind of like the zone).  So don't judge connection issues from H2H.
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: hblair on October 24, 2000, 09:52:00 AM
I saw you in the arena last night echoone. I hope your first night in Aces High was enjoyable. Keep in mind you're in the learning curve now, and will be for several months to come, although after a few weeks you will be much better. I've been playing more than a year, and I'm still learning.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Anyways, Good Luck, and have fun. If you need any pointers, yell at one of the trainers (http://hitechcreations.com/arenas.html#trainers).


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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: maik on October 24, 2000, 11:50:00 AM
Hi Echo1   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif),

would be great to have you and your gang here.

For me it's simple, almost everythings better here   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif). Especially connections ARE VERY stable here.

So come over.

<S>
Maik

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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: NUTTZ on October 24, 2000, 03:22:00 PM
5 Bucks on Gary Coleman, Tyson can't reach that low to chew on his ear (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
NUTTZ

 
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Originally posted by Westy:
 Echo1, to be honest all you need to do is have each of your squad download AH and fly H2H for a week or two. Then open up free two week accountx and if the reasons and differences aren't emmediatley apparant,  then AH would not be for you and your squad.
 Not being a smart bellybutton but doing an "AW3 vs Aces High" is comparable to a "Gary Coleman vs Mike Tyson" fight.  There is not a single thing about AW3 that isn't trumped handily by AH and AH has so much more. Try AH. You'll see what I mean.
 
  -Westy

Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: hblair on October 24, 2000, 03:28:00 PM
My moneys on coleman too, remember the time he wore out "the gooch"? and the gooch was BAD ass!
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: LJK Raubvogel on October 24, 2000, 04:00:00 PM
"What you talkin' bout Blair ?"  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Camel on October 24, 2000, 05:18:00 PM
Hiya Echo1,

Welcome

Note: Signing up for H2H, will activate your 2 free weeks of arena time. so you'll want to get your squad in at the same time for the trial period.

Just noticed a couple of posts saying, "Play H2H, then join for the free trail", wich is incorrect. Or at least I think it is.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Snoopi on October 24, 2000, 05:23:00 PM
Echo1:


Welcome to Aces High !


Echo1, 1776, Westy:


Pardon me..but.....


Unless things have changed......


-When you fly H2H you need an account.
 (an account does not mean you get billed)
-As SOON as you get your password mailed to
 you from HTC, YOUR 2 WEEKS FREE BEGINS !!!
-It does NOT START when you enter the Main
 Arena the first time.


Hence..
If you fly ONLY H2H the first 2 weeks...
-you WASTE your 2 weeks free in the Main Arena
 by letting it expire while fly in H2H.
-you get stuck with a "NewU##" I.D.
 since you only get to pick an I.D. when you
 enter the MA for the first time.
 (unless you start paying)


Therefore:
I suggest you fly in the Main Arena  AND in the "always free" H2H for the first 2 weeks.

Regards,
Snoopi


I am amazed at how many new users can't figure out why they can't enter the MA for their 2 weeks, when they received the password 3 weeks ago and have never entered the MA !



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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: indian on October 24, 2000, 06:38:00 PM
I believe the 2 week trial starts when you first enter the main arena.

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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: hblair on October 24, 2000, 07:56:00 PM
Good one Raub!
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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Camel on October 24, 2000, 08:22:00 PM
Hiya Indain!

Im pretty sure its starts the day(hour, minute) they send your password.

I remeber a post from a NewU### wanting to change his ID, but missed his 2 weeks to change it in the arena.
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Westy on October 24, 2000, 09:19:00 PM
 Holy moly. You're right. Sorry for that bad info Echo.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)   But they got you on the right track now.
 I use to say to folks wondering that they should try AH offline for a few weeks, get used to the commands and nuances, then sign up.

-Westy
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Echo1 on October 30, 2000, 06:29:00 PM
ROFLOL !!

Thank you everyone for your "colorful metaphors" I enjoyed everyone , especial the Gary Coleman / Tyson stint!! I can tell this is the place for me. I have been online for only few days and boy let me tell you, this is intense. I sure do look good as I go down in a fury burning hunk of metal !! Wow this sim is in no way comparable to AirWuzzies or something like that. My vote will be Aces High, I only hope I can survive the dweebie newbie stage. : )


Hope to c-ya everyone up, and if you do come my way, I'm a easy kill : (

Echo1
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Spatula on October 30, 2000, 10:16:00 PM
Welcome aboard Echo1 - you will really enjoy AcesHigh.

There is no going back...

PS - come and fly with the Bishops   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: humble on October 30, 2000, 11:23:00 PM
Echo1...I flew AW from classic, thru AWII on AOL to bigweek and then gamestorm...the connection issues have been handled very well...as for flight model issues I'll give you some basic issues. In AW the front aspect shot is largely eliminated by the gunnery model so tactics involve a different set of variables. In AW I'd often look to minimize angles and seperation on merge and go for early vertical lead turn...here you'd die early and often...you need to fly a smarter merge. In AW only a kill counts, so often you can give a ping to gain an edge knowing that only a "golden BB" will hurt you. In AH any ping carries a chance of damage...so 1st blood often counts alot...no more getting hammered by a guy you pinged 3 times and have smoking for 3 min (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).

Up to 1.04 E bleed was much worse...now E bleed is closer to AW...the flight model has trim and torque modeling not found in AW...so this will take some time...I'd avoid combat trim and learn to trim your rides manually.

All in all you'll find the game to be a big improvement from AW...but be patient for a month or two...like AW I'd say stay with 1 ride for the 1st 6 weeks or so till you get familiar with things.
Title: Air Warrior III vs Ace High
Post by: Hajo on October 31, 2000, 12:10:00 AM
ECHO1.......I played Air Warrior for 6 years and left because the game stagnated.  I tried AH and found it much better graphics wise, connection wise, and the FM.  It's more of a challenge, the planes are modeled better etc. Once you give AH a chance you'll be saying Air Warrior what????