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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Hedu JG26 on October 24, 2000, 08:26:00 PM
What would you tell him about the Flight models and/or their change?  With the $19.95 offer I got in my email, and with WB going flat rate, I am thinking of opening an Aces High account also.  Now, one problem I know I have when I fly all the flight sims I have, is that with the FMs those games have, and how they differ, it is always tough to come back to my original sim and fly as well.  
     I believe that WB and AH are the state of art in flight models for flight sims, and was wondering if the two sims FM's were much different or much same.  I know that AH has had a FM change, and it looks like WBIII will have some FM tweaking, but as of right now, how do they match up in similarity.  My question is not so much which one is better, cause that can turn into an ugly war of words, which I am not after.  And remember, I am a 109 pilot by trade. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Help me out if you can, thanks.

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Hedu, JG26, Warbirds and beyond.
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: bloom25 on October 24, 2000, 08:30:00 PM
It's quite a bit different now.  The planes can all turn much better. (Perhaps more correct, they can turn the same, but for a longer period of time.) TnB planes aren't at as big of a disadvantage now as they were in the past.

I haven't flown WB for a LONG time, but based on what I've heard, the flight models are more similar now than they were in the past.



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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Camel on October 24, 2000, 09:01:00 PM
High fidelity FM's, dynamic arena gameplay(air, ground, sea soon enough).

Hope to cya soon Hedu!
God knows the Leftwabbles around here need all the help they can get  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Rock on October 24, 2000, 09:10:00 PM
With most newbies I show them how to use the radio. Then they can talk to someone who really knows.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

In WB I was getting to where I could fly the 190 and feel comfortable. The 109 was another story. In AH I fly the 109.

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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: juzz on October 24, 2000, 10:05:00 PM
I'd tell them to fly a while in the free H2H servers and see for themselves...
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: indian on October 24, 2000, 11:22:00 PM
Hedu I played WB 18 months ago and thought the FM there was real good, I quit after they put that sinking feeling in the planes thought it was neat at first, then that it was way over done. Aces High is an improved version of what WB was then. I know you have tried this game before and at the time you were here some of the planes FM were off but the game was very challenging. Now you will find that the FM is much better (still needing some tweaking) and in a whole the game is much more fun. The ability to adjust the pilots head is one of the best things here, WB you had a stiff neck and could not lean over as you can in real life. Still have the excorsist twist of the head but thats something I can live with. I found the skill level here to be the highest I have seen in online flight sims. Can go on for ever best thing to do is give it a try.

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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Nash on October 25, 2000, 12:25:00 AM
Erhm.... (hi Hedu)... You *do* know that it's pretty easy to discover for yourself? That is to say, you know ya can take the planes out for a spin offline, as well as fly in the arenas free for 2 weeks. Weren't you flying AH a bit a while back? Anyways, uhm... do it again. It's gonna give ya a way better idea of the FM (and changes) than any potential 'war of words'.

But if pressed, I'd be forced to tell you that I like it. I hope this helps  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Ghosth on October 25, 2000, 01:37:00 AM
Hedu,

Come check out the flight models, they arn't THAT different that you won't be able to switch back & forth. I'm betting you'll stay however once you experience gunnery & damage the way it SHOULD be!

If in doubt, then by all means check out the 8 way free H2H. Always someone who has a FFA up looking for action.




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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: SOB on October 25, 2000, 01:39:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by indian:
Hedu I played WB 18 months ago and thought the FM there was real good, I quit after they put that sinking feeling in the planes thought it was neat at first, then that it was way over done. Aces High is an improved version of what WB was then. I know you have tried this game before and at the time you were here some of the planes FM were off but the game was very challenging. Now you will find that the FM is much better (still needing some tweaking) and in a whole the game is much more fun. The ability to adjust the pilots head is one of the best things here, WB you had a stiff neck and could not lean over as you can in real life. Still have the excorsist twist of the head but thats something I can live with. I found the skill level here to be the highest I have seen in online flight sims. Can go on for ever best thing to do is give it a try.

Yeah, but when that green toejam sprays all over the windscreen it makes it pretty hard to see...even when you can move your head around  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Wanker on October 25, 2000, 08:40:00 AM
Just shut the hell up and get your butt in here, Hedu!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

banana(aka -baxl-)
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Ripsnort on October 25, 2000, 08:43:00 AM
"Hedu? We don wan no steekin' Hay Do in here!"

Hehe, just kidding, heres your chance to shoot me down for all the AH information I posted in AGW  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Maniac on October 25, 2000, 08:53:00 AM
The FMs have been modified so it is easyer to fly (1.04).



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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: StSanta on October 25, 2000, 09:39:00 AM
I think that I'm beginning to see 1.04 fm as maybe not such a bad step after all.

Then again, I am not quite well in my head, and I am quite positive that the yellow sheep won't mind.



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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Gadfly on October 25, 2000, 09:46:00 AM
Well, they are easy, for sure, with or without trim and otto takeoff, but then, I nor hedu are "newbies" either.
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Eagler on October 25, 2000, 10:07:00 AM
Newbies:

Use radio one for ALL transmissions

Stay below 5k

Do not change your views with F10

Take off only from bases where the red bar is larger than the green one

Stay below 200 airspeed

Always carry max loadout, as many bombs and rockets as the plane will hold

Always announce, on ch.1, the airbase you are leaving from, plane type, heading and destination

Do Not download maps of airbase/arena, you'll figure them out


Do not make dives less then 90 degrees, full throttle

Make sure you do not have a joystick with rudder control or pedals, they just get in the way

Follow the above tips to the letter and you'll do just fine or at least as well as I do  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Eagler

Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: rickod on October 25, 2000, 10:09:00 AM
what stopped me from signing up was the fm of the past have checked it out recently and it feels much better to me  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Ripsnort on October 25, 2000, 10:21:00 AM
LOL Eagler!
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Minotaur on October 25, 2000, 10:49:00 AM
LOL  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Hedu;

Welcome to Aces High!

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The Wrecking Crew

"Hind tit suckin whiners. Begone with yah!"
Hangtime
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Westy on October 25, 2000, 11:09:00 AM
LOL Eagler! I'm saving that one  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

-Westy
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: lazs on October 25, 2000, 11:32:00 AM
hedu... I found that I adapted to the latest AH FM very quickly.  As others have said... There isn't that much difference now.   Landings are much harder tho but not a big deal.  Ded stick landings are much more difficult.   The view system will most likely become second nature very quickly.   My guess is that your K/D will be about the same in both sims after a week or ten.

I would suggest that you get on roger wilco with some ex WB guys (plenty to choose from) and fly with them at first.   View some films that guys have made to get a feel for the gunnery and trajectories.  

If I am up, feel free to contact me (legitimate offer)and I will get on RW with you.   It would be an interesting conversation if nothing else.

Oh... you may notice several features that are superior in AH... I would caution you against pointing them out on other boards if you are easily offended.  There are 1 or 2 very intolerant types on every board it would seem.
lazs

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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Ripsnort on October 25, 2000, 11:40:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by lazs:

Oh... you may notice several features that are superior in AH... I would caution you against pointing them out on other boards if you are easily offended.  There are 1 or 2 very intolerant types on every board it would seem.
lazs

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ROTFLOL!!!!

Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Hedu JG26 on October 25, 2000, 09:37:00 PM
Intolerants?  Hell you say!

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Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: funked on October 25, 2000, 10:07:00 PM
Hedu as long as you have a fast system you won't have a problem.  With a slower system (like my P2-400) the low frame rates can make gunnery interesting.
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Hamish on October 25, 2000, 10:23:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by funked:
Hedu as long as you have a fast system you won't have a problem.  With a slower system (like my P2-400) the low frame rates can make gunnery interesting.

Try it with my P2-266!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Hamish!
Title: If you were talking to a Aces High newbie...
Post by: Xjazz on October 26, 2000, 01:57:00 AM
I am newbie with AH and trail time is on.
I have fly sims like Flanker 1&2 (a lot), WB (offline) EAW. AHs FM feels good and landing aint are too difficult.

I looking info about fighters Corner Speed diagrams. So far I just try guessing right speed.

So far so good.