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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JoeMud on October 25, 2000, 04:16:00 AM
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PT Boat Specs
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The Patrol Torpedo Boat was a wooden craft, about 80 feet long and displacing about 55 tons. It was powered by three Packard Marine engines that developed close to 1,500 horsepower each. The boats carried 3,000 gallons of 100 octane aviation fuel for power. They could accelerate from 8 to 40 knots in about eleven seconds, with a top speed of about 48 knots. As far as armament goes, you couldn't come near one without having something lethal pointed in your direction. The PT Boat carried more firepower per pound than any other craft in the Navy. The typical boat carried most of the following:
40 mm Bofors cannon, aft.
Twin 50 cal. machine guns port and starboard
20 mm Oerlikon forward
37 mm Automatic forward
4 MK VIII torpedoes in tubes,
later boats had 4 MK XIII torpedoes on racks
Depth Charges
Mortar
Rockets
Smoke Generator
Small Arms
Hand Grenades
Crew
The crew consisted of about 14 men, 1 or 2 of them officers. What made the all-volunteer crew different was the breadth of their training. While the crew members on a typical ship were trained in a specialty, and there were several crew members trained in the same job. The crew of a PT was trained to do every job on the boat, with one or two being their specialty. They didn't have the luxury of replacements, so everyone had to know everyone elses job.
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"..he shoots fire out of his eyes and lightning bolts out of his arse..."
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Yep can't wait to check em out. They'll make the Ostwind look like a sick puppy in comparison! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Great pics btw!
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JEEEEZZZZZZ, Can we get wheels on these and take them to capture fields (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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NHFoxtro
-XO-NightHawks
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NightHawks "WE BAD"
[This message has been edited by NHFoxtro (edited 10-25-2000).]
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Originally posted by NHFoxtro:
JEEEEZZZZZZ, Can we get wheels on these and take them to capture fields (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
No, but you will have landing craft launched from the fleet that will allow you to capture shore-side airfields, unless of course their are enemy PT boats out there fishing enroute to your landing point... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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How possibly could these PT boats be modeled accurately?
Bah, no way can they be!
Unless.....
I see one of the HTC gang in tow on a single ski or maybe a wake board! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"Hind tit suckin whiners. Begone with yah!"
Hangtime
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I hate you minotaur. Why did you have to stick this idea in my head.
I see one of the HTC gang in tow on a single ski or maybe a wake board!
HiTech
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Easter egg HT? Suggest Ronni or Yankee on that knee board, complete with bikini please, sir.
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Dammit! Now I'm going to have to go read "American Guerilla in the Phillipines" again!
Alot of armament.. but they were still sitting ducks. Anyone have casualty reports for vessels and crewmen as well as reports for ships/aircraft downed for PT boats in WW2? I'm very curious about it.
AKDejaVu
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All I want on it is my shorts as the flag and the ability to fish off the back. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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<whacks Rip> You Gump! I'm tellin your wife about this right after JoeMud and I get done fishin!
<sits down on fan-tail with pink rod, watching a red bobber the size of a beach ball for any sign of movement>
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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
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PT boats in the Pacific were one of the coolest weapons systems ever devised. Alas, they were pretty damn useless at their primary mission: Killing Capitol ships.
They did do other things well, especially at the end of the war when all the Japanese had left were lightly armed/armored barges and interisland scows.
Bring em on! PT109 was one of my favorite "sims", if you can call anything in 4 colors a sim. Here is my award winning Radio control model:
(http://www.geocities.com/~tomscar/mpt106sm.jpg)
[This message has been edited by Gadfly (edited 10-25-2000).]
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Nah man ya gotta fish on the bottom <hands you a quantum blue runner with some 80lb test spider wire> There thats what I caught my 20lb catfish on.
(I cant beleave it I posted somthing that might be a useful bit of info) NOOOOOOOOO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by JoeMud (edited 10-25-2000).]
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LOL Flake-bait (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) My wife encourages me to 'look' at other women since it lets her know that if and when I stop looking, its time to put dirt on top of me, 6 feet of it.
She has this rule, though, "Imagine yourself on a diet, and you're browsing thru Better Homes and Gardens looking at all the food ads, you can look, but you can't taste!"
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LOL Rip if you'd trained your wife right she'd be spotting em for ya like mine does!
"Nice pair at 2:00 low honey"!
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Ghosth: "Yes dear. Good eye. That's the best set a knockers I ever did see onna dwarf"
Wife: She's a midget, dear.
Ghosth: "Looked like a dwarf to me.."
Wife: "No dear. Midget."
Ghosth: "Dwarf"
Wife: "Midget"
Ghosth: "DWARF!"
They were still standing there arguing when the tornado dropped a house on 'em.
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Hang
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I really hope an LCS is included with the first round of PT boats. Specially if we get LVT's or LCM's.
Oh yeah, and DUKW's!
- Jig
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Originally posted by JoeMud:
All I want on it is my shorts as the flag and the ability to fish off the back. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Isn't that what the depth charges are there for?
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Guess so long as the boat is in motion, induced by the seas (rocking etc) their firepower at least Sea-Air may be hard to bring to bear, kinda like firing from a moving tank.
SKurj
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To cool man! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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6pack
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Actually; depending on sea state; once on plane any high performance boat gets very stable. At lower speeds; in full displacement mode they tend to wallow... but with those throttles cracked open, a PT's deck motion was dramaticly lessened and a good gunner could easily compensate for the rythym.. much smoother and slower than the motion of a tank over uneven terrain.
Three or four of these in a simultaneous evasive pattern attack will easily overwhelm the gun defenses of a AH destroyer or cruiser; and with 12 torpedoes in the water; the cruisers fate would be sealed. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Attrition on the PT's would be high... but the tradeoffs are obvious... if they get to torpedo range, life expectancys of the cruisers or destroyers diminish dramaticly. Yes.. we need the night! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Real life torpedo boat attacks were hell on the PT's.. and drove the Japanese nuts too.. ruining their defensive screen, and causing all kinds of panic and confusion on convoys. A daylight PT attack as part of the opening moves of a coordinated submarine and air attack left many Japanese escorts without a convoy to guard.
I'm looking forward to these.. could be a lotta fun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Sea-Osti! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by funked:
Sea-Osti! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Now why on God's green Earth would you want to put it like that Funked?!?!?!! Now what the heck am I supposed to DO?!?!?!?! I can't wait for 1.05 even more now!!!!!!!
Udie
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All this talk about boats........
While a pilot is on leave....
He should have some R&R craft.....
I can see it now, Sail boats (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Fishing boats..even a glass bottom boat!!!!! Yeah!!!
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nah fatty my shorts are alot stronger than depth charges (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Thats more info than we needed Joe. They got this stuff at the store called charmin...
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