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Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: StSanta on July 28, 2003, 11:40:38 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed.

Girl manages to be part of a group that get lost. Due to incoming fire her vehicle gets out of control and she is seriously injured.

Her friends try to fight back leading to the death of a lot of them.

Fast forward a bit; US troops get a tip and free her and the bodies of her fallen comrades from a hospital.

Lynch gets Bronze Star for 'meritous duty during combat'.

Isn't this an awful insult to those actually doing heroic things?

She didn't really do anything except taking a wrong turn and getting injured.

I just think it's cheap PR stuff from the military's side, and it cheapens the Bronze Star. Sickening.

POW medal and Purple Heart are appropriate, but Bronze Star?

Story can be found  here (http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=5069)
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: ra on July 28, 2003, 11:42:53 AM
From what I've heard in the past the Bronze Star is already pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Mickey1992 on July 28, 2003, 11:43:14 AM
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Originally posted by StSanta
Story can be found  here (http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=5069)


Lengthy previous post can be found here (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92045&highlight=jessica) :)
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: firbal on July 28, 2003, 11:45:08 AM
It's a war time upgrade for an Arcom. I found that out in the 1st Gulf war. If it has a V attached, then it would be for heroic action, or something like that.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on July 28, 2003, 11:50:01 AM
American troops do appear to get medals if they manage to wake up, dress themselves and have breakfast without being seriously injured.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Chairboy on July 28, 2003, 12:10:21 PM
And British troops are given medals if they can avoid invading beach resorts instead of their actual targets.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1827554.stm
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Puudeli on July 28, 2003, 12:30:45 PM
*cough* propaganda *cough*
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Chairboy on July 28, 2003, 12:38:29 PM
It's all in good fun, I imagine Schadenfreude (or anyone) could find something about US soldiers lickety split using google.


..but no matter, a funny story is a funny story.  Of course it isn't representative of the stature and professionalism of the British military any more then Bronze Stars being handed out like candy are indicative of the ability of the US military.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on July 28, 2003, 01:02:13 PM
well at least no one got any medals for getting lost in that one....
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on July 28, 2003, 01:38:11 PM
well at least no one got any medals for getting lost in that one....
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Frogm4n on July 28, 2003, 01:46:18 PM
previous bronze stars were not cheap. This is a propaganda machine at its best. This also spits on all those who recieved a bronze star for actually doing something heroic.

I have a great uncle that recieved one for holding his position while the rest of his artillery crew fled. Fireing and loading the gun alone he slowed down  the japanese offenceive enough to allow time for the troops in the area to escape and later counterattack, finding him with a severed spine after the japanese drove a tank over my great uncle and left him for dead.

Also didnt John McCain never recieve any big medals while in a pow camp.

Having a rpg hit your humv because your convoy took a wrong turn, being captured and enemy doctors help you get rescued does not = a bronze star.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: ra on July 28, 2003, 02:40:25 PM
Frog the Bronze Star has been cheap since at least the first Gulf War, probably even before that.  They call it 'medal inflation', where they no longer keep to the original intent of the medal.

Your grand uncle would have probably earned a silver star for his bravery in today's army.

ra
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: StSanta on July 28, 2003, 04:41:33 PM
Thanks Mickey, couldn't find it when I searched for some reason (and I DID apologize in advance :D)
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Frogm4n on July 28, 2003, 07:34:51 PM
yea i guess they just give them out to people that clean a good latrine as long as it gives whoever is in charge a political advatage.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 28, 2003, 07:49:21 PM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
well at least no one got any medals for getting lost in that one....


Isn't Scott of the Antarctic a British hero?  No offense to our British comrades, but we all have our own selective memory.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Drunky on July 28, 2003, 09:03:54 PM
I just want to state my stance on the matter...

I agree.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on July 28, 2003, 10:15:01 PM
Maybe your right, maybe not.  Since you where not there and as far as I know no one has told the story how can you be sure she did not do things to earn it?  I think we would be best off not judging things without know what we are judging.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Frogm4n on July 28, 2003, 10:48:55 PM
I'm guessing you didnt read the report did you rabbit. Or the reasons they gave for giving her the bronze star.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Vulcan on July 28, 2003, 10:51:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
And British troops are given medals if they can avoid invading beach resorts instead of their actual targets.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1827554.stm


Err wrong side of the beach ain't that bad.

Least it wasn't France, if it had been France might be under English rule by now :D
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: rpm on July 29, 2003, 05:39:20 AM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
 Of course it isn't representative of the stature and professionalism of the British military any more then Bronze Stars being handed out like candy are indicative of the ability of the US military.


Didn't they give Montgomery a Knighthood? All he did was wait on Patton to get the work done.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: rpm on July 29, 2003, 08:48:27 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Yes Patton did all the work, especially in North Africa. You dope!


Ever hear of the Kasserine Pass?
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on July 29, 2003, 12:06:26 PM
I saw "The Bronze Star is given for meritorious service in combat".  That is hardly a description Vulcan.  Did I miss more?  If I'm not missing anything then there is no description of what occured that's being published at least not in this article.  All I'm saying is that I reserve judgement on others unless I'm sure I have all the facts.
Title: Pfc Jessica Lynchs Bronze Star?
Post by: Drunky on July 29, 2003, 10:34:06 PM
I want to clarify my stance on the matter...

I disagree.