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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rutilant on July 28, 2003, 08:01:20 PM
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I've had these ingrown toenails for a while now, (both of em), and they've goten progressively worse for a couple months.. Well, i didnt think it'd get worse.. WRONG, it's now ingrown all the way to the base of the nail and it hurts like hell when i walk or bump my toe into anything..
So are there any treatments? if so, what does it involve? because it's gettin really unbearable.
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I used to have the same problem which was compounded by repeated looooong marches with a heavy assed rucksack. I even had the nails cut out one time and they grew back exactly the same. Only solution was to buy really wide boots/shoes, and just let the nails grow out really long, then cut them straight across. Hurts like hell for a long time, but after they grow out I haven't had problems for years.
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doctor,
needle,
scalpel,
no more pain.
just get it over with...
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well i sit around all day barefoot.. tried lettin em grow, cuttin a notch in the middle and it's still gotten worse, and it's beginnin to ache constantly.. gonna see a doctor about it
Edit: I am a fargin pansy when it comes to pain, they'll have to knock me out before they do anything
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Originally posted by Rutilant
well i sit around all day barefoot.. tried lettin em grow, cuttin a notch in the middle and it's still gotten worse, and it's beginnin to ache constantly.. gonna see a doctor about it
Edit: I am a fargin pansy when it comes to pain, they'll have to knock me out before they do anything
Same here sight of needles makes me sick. I tried all the home remedies too. The pain got so bad I had to do something. Trust me that 2 sec needle salamander is nothing compared to an infection.
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I've done the DR. cutting (no more pain my prettythang) thing and it was a temporary fix at best. the only ones I've heard who have had complete success is the total, perinant removal of the nail.
a friend gave me a home remedy that I used 2 years ago, and I had no problem since.
you have to suffer through until it grows completely out. do it in the summer while you can avoid shoes as much as possable.
then cut them straight across (DR. Schols sells clippers that don't have the sharp curve of regular clippers.)
then if you have heavy nails like mine that cut into the foot all the way along, even if the tip is grown past, you just cut a small(1/8") 'v' notch in the center of the end of the nail, it lets the nail flex and stops it from curling down and cutting into the sides.
like I said no problems in 2 years, even when I have to wear work boots for 16+ hours a day.
edit** needle salamander? they shoved that damn thing up under the nail! didn't hurt as bad as the ingrown nail, but a very close second, did get some temporary relief but, a couple months later the pain was back
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cut them off and stop whineing. you have 10 toes, you can afford to lose a some
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I've done the DR. cutting (no more pain my prettythang) thing and it was a temporary fix at best. the only ones I've heard who have had complete success is the total, perinant removal of the nail.
a friend gave me a home remedy that I used 2 years ago, and I had no problem since.
you have to suffer through until it grows completely out. do it in the summer while you can avoid shoes as much as possable.
then cut them straight across (DR. Schols sells clippers that don't have the sharp curve of regular clippers.)
then if you have heavy nails like mine that cut into the foot all the way along, even if the tip is grown past, you just cut a small(1/8") 'v' notch in the center of the end of the nail, it lets the nail flex and stops it from curling down and cutting into the sides.
like I said no problems in 2 years, even when I have to wear work boots for 16+ hours a day.
edit** needle salamander? they shoved that damn thing up under the nail! didn't hurt as bad as the ingrown nail, but a very close second, did get some temporary relief but, a couple months later the pain was back
damn what dcotor did you go to ? Dr.Satan?
Mine was pain free even after the drugs wore off. Nail grew back straight and I've been careful ever since.
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Have had the same problem with Big toe nails that you are describing. This past year I finally got tired of going to the Doctor to get them cut out. This past time I went to a foot doctor, who actually cut the nail back, and killed a PORTION of the nail bed...
It has since grown all the way in and is not a problem what so ever. He even told me to not cut the Vee, but to keep it cut straight. Said to also make sure I bought wide shoes.
Seems to work so far, and far less nasty looking then say total nail removal....
But hey, it's your foot.
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Get thee to a good podiatrist and be done with this problem.
It may take two or three trips over a couple of months but once you have it done right by a competent podiatrist, you'll probably never have another problem.
I took that advice about 30 years ago and really haven't had any trouble worth talking about.
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LOL Rutty has hammer time....
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WebMD (http://my.webmd.com/content/article/8/1680_54525)
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I used to have the same problem.
First, check your sock and shoe size. My problem was wrong sized socks.
Second, if you live near a beach go for regular walks in the salt water. It clears out the infection. Once the infection clears out you can let the nail 'grow out'.
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damn, glad to hear you guys had a better experience than me with getting them cut. was wondering how they could keep selling the surgery if everyones worked out as bad as mine.
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ya,,i had a freind with a really bad ingrown toe nail,,everytime some one would step on his foot,,we would scream with pain,,well after all the time of neglect and not seeing a doc about it,,his toe nail grew right threw his toe out the bottom of it! ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww,,it looked horrible,,he had to go to the docs ,,and they fixed it,,he hasnt had any troubles with it sence
my cousin had the nerves in his big toe nail destoryed ,,because he allways had ingrown nail trouble.,i would see a doc,,ethere way,,they can fix it for good if you need it,,lol
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Same general situation as Raubvogel here. Go to a podiatrist - when he cuts the nails he'll put some acid on a swab and burn the root of the nail with the acid on both sides so the nails won't grow back. I had them cut 'normally' one time and eventually they grew back. I had the acid treatment done about 3 years ago and no problems any more and in that past 3 years I have really abused my feet - I mean everything on my feet broke down *except* my 'acid nails'. :) The podiatrist cuts and burns them after giving you a local anesthetic on your feet (usually he does both big toes just to make sure). Wraps the big toes in heavy gause and ace-type bangaging after dousing them with antibiotic ointment. You have to change the dressings and reapply dressings and ointment for about 2, maybe 3 weeks while taking it kind of easy on your feet. Then problem solved - at least it was for me.
Mike/wulfie
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Embrace the pain!
Knife and tweezers every month, does it pretty good, if you're running low on medical funds. Cut the sides carefully, so the nails don't break off in the middle. Carefully pull, so the cut piece extends to the root area. And then, firmly set the tweezers on the dangling piece of nail and yank them out. You must pull the root area with the outer parts of the nail, all in one!
Ho boy does it smart like crazy.
Quickly apply antibiotic, bandage it up, and enjoy the numbing pain. After about two days, no more pain.
God, you're safe until the next month!
:D
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Get a sharp and I mean sharp pair of nail scissors with a straight pointed blade and do the following.
1. Cut a angle at the edge of each nail at about 45 degrees towards the flesh of yr toe - the section will be held on by a small piece of nail but will come loose - this will stop the current pain.
to prevent it recurring do the following.
2. cut a V shape in the center of your nail as deep and wide as possible - as the nail grows it will move in from the sides to fill the V gap and stop in the ingrowth on the sides. Use a nail file to smooth rough edges so they don't catch on socks/sheets etc.
In future always cut your nails rather than tear them - learnt this from a medic in the army when I was doing a fair amount of walking and had to keep the old feet in good condition.
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My Father forced me to wear "Cockroach Killer" boots as a child, the ones that come to a point. As a result both of my Big toes wound up growing concave and the nail edges nearly touched. I suffered indescribable pain for 20 years until I went to a Podiatrist and had them premanently removed. Yes, the shot of Lidocane hurt like hell. I swore he stuck that needle into the bone! For the last 10 years I have not had 1 single day of pain and not a day goes by that I am not glad I had it done. My toes still are curved and had I not had the nails removed they would have grown back curved.
(Note: My Dad never had his nails removed, until a Surgeon removed his entire Big Toe because of Gangrene! You decide which was better.)
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*shudder*
now i'm scared! thanks for the advice, i'm gonna go with the professional, since every time i try and fix somethin it ends up in the trash..
acid? ewww..
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Second, if you live near a beach go for regular walks in the salt water. It clears out the infection. Once the infection clears out you can let the nail 'grow out'.
This is excellent advice if the toenails have become infected. It's "old school" but it really works.
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Have a doctor fix it.
They numb the area with local injections.
They use little cutters to cut off either side of the nail to make it narrower.
They use a swab with some sort of acid to kill the root on the sides.
The nail never grows back from those spots.
I had both sides of both my big toes done. Ahh.. so nice not to have pain and blood in my socks anymore :D
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Here's a nifty little link about ingrown toenails....WARNING: There ARE pics.
http://bing.20m.com/toenails/story.htm
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WORD of ADVICE on this issue...I have had 5 surguries on one toe cuz some doctor didnt know what he was doing. after being scamed for 2 years with surguries and therapy...I finally went to go see a different doctor who in one visit "with a really cool "live" xray machine" found the problem that kept bringing back the ingrown....
Bone spur on the big toe....45 min later after an "in house" surgery....bone spur was gone..and havent had an ingrown since!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You might want to ask about that or get a second opinion
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I had an op on an ingrown toenail in February.
They did it under local anaesthetic which is done by three injections into the toe. One either side and then one in the top where the bone is. That hurt like fek! Of course you couldn't feel a thing afterwards!
They then cut a what I can only describe as a trench either side of the nail, taking about 2-3mm of the nail off in the process. They then scraped the white stuff away from beneath the nail so the nail wouldn't grow back. They can't stitch it so it's just a case of lots of dressing. The doctor decided to do both sides of the nail (even though only one side was ingrown) as a kind of preventative maintenance! :) They'll only remove the nail completely if you get another ingrown toenail on the same toe.
I had to go to out-patients daily for about a week to have it cleaned and redressed and I was off work for about 3 weeks (job was mostly outdoors). After about 7 weeks it was fully healed and now several months on it hasn't caused me the slightest problem.
See this link: http://www.acfas.org/brnailds.html Look for Partial Nail Removal. They didn't peel the skin on mine, just cut the trench!
It was the first time I've had any operation and I found it to be okay, recommended if all else fails! :)